[Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

[Benjamin Peterson]

2010/8/10 Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu>:
> On 8/10/2010 9:13 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
>>
>> 2010/8/10 Stephen J. Turnbull<stephen at xemacs.org>:
>>>
>>> Benjamin Peterson writes:
>>>  >  2010/8/9 Nick Coghlan<ncoghlan at gmail.com>:
>>>  >  >  On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:10 AM, alexander.belopolsky
>>>  >  >  <python-checkins at python.org>  wrote:
>>>  >  >>  +PS: In the standard Python distribution, this file is encoded
>>>  >  >>  in UTF-8 +and the list is in rough alphabetical order by last
>>>  >  >>  names.
>>>  >  >>
>>>  >  >>    David Abrahams
>>>  >  >>    Jim Ahlstrom
>>>  >  >>  @@ -28,6 +29,7 @@
>>>  >  >>    Éric Araujo
>>>  >  >>    Jason Asbahr
>>>  >  >>    David Ascher
>>>  >  >>  +Peter Åstrand
>>>  >  >   From my recollection of the discussion when Peter was added, the
>>>  >  >  >first
>>>  >  >  character in his last name actually sorts after Z (despite its
>>>  >  >  resemblance to an A).
>>>  >  This is correct. Don't think of Å as a kind of "A". It's its own
>>>  >  letter, which sorts after Z in Swedish.
>>>
>>> That's true, but IIRC there are a fairly large number of letters where
>>> different languages collate them in different positions.
>>>
>>> Is it worth actually asking appropriate humans to think about this, or
>>> would it be better to use Unicode code point order for simplicity?
>>
>> I think it's largely a unimportant discussion. If people have an
>> opinion of where their name should appear, they can by all means
>> change it. However, "rough" is probably as best as it'll ever get.
>
> If I were committing a patch and was checking to see whether a name that
> started with a decorated A (or any other letter) were already in the list, I
> would look in the appropriate place in the A (or other) section, not after
> Z.
>
> Everyone working on the English-based Python distribution knows the order of
> the 26 English letters. Please use that order (including for decorated
> versions and tranliterations) instead of various idiosyncratic and possibly
> conflicting nationality-based rules.
>
> For instance, suppose a 'Jean Charbol' posts a patch? Should we really have
> to ask his/her 'nationality' before adding the name to the list?

No, but if he complains about it, we should change it.

> Librarians who filed author cards by birth nationality rules made the
> now-obsolete card catalogs less useful for users who not know both birth
> nationality and rule. Lets not repeat that mistake.

How often are people trying to search through Misc/ACKS, though?



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Regards,
Benjamin