[Python-ideas] Retire or reword the "Beautiful is better than ugly" Zen clause

[Paul Moore]

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 09:40, Franklin? Lee
<leewangzhong+python at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:04 PM Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:32:26 -0400
> > "Franklin? Lee"
> > <leewangzhong+python at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:14 AM Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, right.
> > > >
> > > > You know, when I was pointing out Calvin not being very brave by
> > > > attacking a bunch of people without giving names, my aim was to merely
> > > > point out how dishonest and disrespectful his attitude his.  *Not* to
> > > > encourage someone to turn his post into more of a clusterfuck of
> > > > personal attacks.
> > >
> > > Please give an example of an attack I made above. I see accusations,
> > > made against adults, regarding actions.
> >
> > Why would I?  As you admit, you are not countering arguments, but
> > accusing people.  I have better to do than to waste my time in this
> > kind of game.  This mailing-list is not supposed to be a playground for
> > angry people.
>
> I made accusations and explained them. You accused me of making
> personal attacks, but won't back it up when challenged, saying that
> it'd be a waste of time. If it's not important, why make the
> accusation in the first place?
>
> I have thought about making arguments and explanations, but erased
> them because it could distract from this point. I'm far less concerned
> about the proposal (in either direction) than about the treatment of a
> new user and a controversial proposal. The harm of that is here and
> now.

Please can we drop this line of discussion. It's neither productive
nor helpful, and it's skirting very close to what I'd consider to be
in violation of the CoC.

Paul