[Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

Paul Moore p.f.moore at gmail.com
Fri Mar 29 04:11:20 EDT 2019

Bah. Tablet client defaults to reply, not reply to all...

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 08:10, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 03:25, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:07 PM Stephen J. Turnbull
>> <turnbull.stephen.fw at u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
>> >
>> > There's a big difference, though.  Email users choose their own email
>> > clients.  If you choose GMail, well, "sorry, you chose GMail."  (I
>> > understand that avoiding GMail on Apple handhelds is kinda hard,
>> > AppleMail sucking amazingly and all.  But writing technical discussion
>> > on a phone is strictly for disasters, anyway, at least IME.)
>> That's half of my point (the distinction between "suboptimal clients"
>> and "suboptimal services"), but the other half is that every time
>> someone says "sorry, you chose Gmail", there's a lengthy discussion
>> that ends up NOT showcasing any sort of perfect alternative - and
>> often not even any *better* alternatives. Have you ever actually
>> convinced someone to move off Gmail onto some other client?
> As someone who uses gmail (the web interface) this is a good point. When
> people say that there are all sorts of better alternative clients, no-one
> has ever been able to offer one that actually satisfies my specific
> requirements. Having said that, *in spite of having to use gmail* I still
> strongly prefer mailing lists.
> I can’t easily articulate why, but certainly one aspect of it is the fact
> that there is no universally accepted alternative that gets proposed. One
> time it’s discourse, then it’s github, then something else I’ve never heard
> of... And every other project that gets quoted as having “successfully
> switched” seems to use something different. So in my mind the question
> isn’t about mail or a particular alternative (that I can look at and form
> an opinion about over time, as these discussions reoccur) but rather about
> mail or “not mail” with an ever changing alternative that I have to
> consider and re-assess from scratch each time.
> For me, mail wins as the stable alternative. And for something I spend so
> much time on, stability is essential.
> Paul
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