[Tutor] Looking for a forgiving environment

[Danny Yoo]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Erik Price wrote:

> 
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, at 08:40  PM, Dean Goodmanson wrote:
> 
> > I have a number of questions that aren't worthy of comp.lang.python, 
> > and that I'd rather not go down in the permanent recordbook we call 
> > "google: search: my name"...
> 
> Well, in that case the bad news is that most mailing lists are archived, 
> and many of them are accessible from Google searches.  I just did a 

Hi Dean,


And it spans several years.  Google is incredibly scary.

    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=lafn+danny+yoo&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wg

I just felt extremely nostalgic reading the posts of this kid.  I was much
younger back then.  I dunno; part of me winces to see those words, but a
part of me feels awe at how much has not changed.


Forgive my self indulgence.  Anyway, to your questions:

> 1. Why do emails from mailman lists get annoyingly formatted when I
> read them from my yahoo account.  The last two or so words are
> wrapped--especially on reply quotes.

Certain email browsers don't support text justification very well.  In
Pine, I'm pressing Ctrl-J every so often to keep the document wrapped.  
I'm not sure if Yahoo's online email software provides a similar service.



> 2. How do I connect to the Zope chat on an IRC server. I have
> CryptSoftware "WinBot"

You may want to see if:

    http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/IrcBot

is useful.  I don't know if this will work with Zope chat, but it couldn't
hurt to give it a shot.



> 3. How do I configure a newsreader to view comp.lang.python in
> something other than google groups? Advocacy...

You may want to see if your Internet Service Provider hosts a newsserver.  
Many of them do, with names like 'smtp.foo.bar'.  



> 4. How can I encourage people to place a Python SOAP service on
> xmethods.org ?

Dunno about this one; sorry!  This may have less to do with technical
issues than social ones.  Does xmethods.org take user submissions?  It
might be possible to cook someone up and send it as a submission.



> 5. What is Zope's specialty over other products [in it's class..], and
> it's relationship with Radio Userland.

You may want to ask on the Zope mailing list on this one; I'm only a
supplicant myself, still trying to wrap my head around Zope myself.  Try:

    http://www.zope.org/Resources/MailingLists

for more information on the mailing lists.



> 6. How do I get statistics from my Zope server [beyond fsCounter]?

Zope.org itself uses Webalizer:

    http://ns1.zope.org:82/
    http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/

Webalizer can show statistical information from Apache logs.  Perhaps it's
possible to bend Zope logs to look like apache logs, so that Webalizer can
work on it directly.



> 7. Where can I go to get Python maintenance scripts for a Zope server?
> (6 & 7 are examples, I haven't researched/attempted those yet.)
> Community...


Some people have written scripts to remotely backup Zope:

    http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/remote-backup

so many of these maintenance scripts may be listed as "Products".



> 8. Is EDU-SIG for education developers or educators?  I'm looking for
> activity & discussion in the former.

Edu-sig appears to be a mix of both.  It would be an interesting question
to ask and see the percentages.  *grin*



Best of wishes to you!