Mailman 3 July 2013 - Python.NET

C# path for 3rd-party libraries?
by Jason Sachs 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

I got the pythonnet libraries installed and working with my Python installation, and I can do import clr import System without errors, but when I go to import a 3rd-party .NET library I have installed, it can't find it: >>> import clr >>> import System >>> import OpenLayers.Base Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> ImportError: No module named OpenLayers.Base >>> How do I tell pythonnet where .NET libraries are? I have essentially no background with .NET, I'm familiar with Java so there are a lot of parallels but I don't understand how to make these libraries visible to Python.

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Re: [Python.NET] debugging
by Jason Sachs 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

is there a prebuilt version of pythonnet for x64? I tried downloading source + opening the VS10 solution file it in Visual Studio express 2013 but it gives a bunch of migration errors. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Bradley Friedman <brad(a)fie.us> wrote: > My best guess is that the pyd file is not built correctly for your python. > > When you run npython, python.runtime.dll is already linked to the .NET > executable and is active. That's why you don't need to import clr to get > going. > > But when you run it as a module, it needs to be imported to get the clr > loaded up and get python.runtime.dll linked in. The clr.pyd is a stub to > accomplish that. And it's compiled differently per platform. > > That it doesn't recognize it as a valid executable suggests either a 32/64 > bit issue, or that you might have a .pyd that's for linux, or some other > binary incompatibility. > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ...yet when I run npython.exe it works fine: > > C:\>c:\app\python\anaconda\1.6.0\lib\site-packages\pythonnet\npython > Python 2.7.5 |Anaconda 1.6.0 (64-bit)| (default, May 31 2013, 10:45:37) > [MSC v.1 > 500 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> import System > >>> > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm still missing this. Here's what I tried (never mind Eclipse+pydev for >> the moment, I'm just trying to run a python.exe to get what I want) >> >> - I created a "pythonnet" directory under site-packages >> - I created a "pythonnet.pth" file that contains "pythonnet" >> - I added the 5 files from pythonnet into the "pythonnet" directory under >> site-packages >> >> and if I run python here's what I get: it shows up in sys.path but I >> can't import System and if I import clr it gives me an error. >> >> C:\>apython >> Python 2.7.5 |Anaconda 1.6.0 (64-bit)| (default, May 31 2013, 10:45:37) >> [MSC v.1 >> 500 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >> >>> import sys >> >>> sys.path >> ['', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\Lib', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\ >> \python27.zip', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\DLLs', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anac >> onda\\1.6.0\\lib\\plat-win', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\lib-tk', 'c >> :\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-p >> ackages', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\PIL', >> 'c:\\app\ >> \python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\pythonnet', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anac >> onda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\win32', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\ >> \site-packages\\win32\\lib', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packag >> es\\Pythonwin', 'c: >> \\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\setuptool >> s-0.6c11-py2.7.egg-info'] >> >>> import System >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> >> ImportError: No module named System >> >>> import clr >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> >> ImportError: DLL load failed: %1 is not a valid Win32 application. >> >> C:\>dir c:\app\python\anaconda\1.6.0\lib\site-packages\pythonnet\ >> Volume in drive C is Local Disk >> Volume Serial Number is 8242-AA56 >> >> Directory of c:\app\python\anaconda\1.6.0\lib\site-packages\pythonnet >> >> 07/22/2013 04:43 PM <DIR> . >> 07/22/2013 04:43 PM <DIR> .. >> 12/29/2012 04:28 PM 3,584 clr.pyd >> 12/29/2012 04:27 PM 275,968 nPython.exe >> 12/29/2012 04:27 PM 13,824 nPython.pdb >> 12/29/2012 04:15 PM 375,296 Python.Runtime.dll >> 12/29/2012 04:15 PM 411,136 Python.Runtime.pdb >> 5 File(s) 1,079,808 bytes >> 2 Dir(s) 339,216,891,904 bytes free >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Bradley Friedman <brad(a)fie.us> wrote: >> >>> You may be able to drop the binaries into those locations. Note I said >>> build/acquire. In that case you'd acquire. >>> >>> Deployment is another matter. >>> >>> When it comes to PyDev, you'll want to make sure it's using the >>> PYTHONPATH and site-packages locations you think it is. Further, you >>> should probably figure out if "import clr" works. And from there, work on >>> importing .net namespaces. If sometime fails, we'll need specific console >>> output or stack traces to be of any use here I'd think. >>> >>> -brad >>> >>> >

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Re: [Python.NET] debugging
by Jason Sachs 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

I'm still missing this. Here's what I tried (never mind Eclipse+pydev for the moment, I'm just trying to run a python.exe to get what I want) - I created a "pythonnet" directory under site-packages - I created a "pythonnet.pth" file that contains "pythonnet" - I added the 5 files from pythonnet into the "pythonnet" directory under site-packages and if I run python here's what I get: it shows up in sys.path but I can't import System and if I import clr it gives me an error. C:\>apython Python 2.7.5 |Anaconda 1.6.0 (64-bit)| (default, May 31 2013, 10:45:37) [MSC v.1 500 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import sys >>> sys.path ['', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\Lib', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\ \python27.zip', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\DLLs', 'c:\\app\\python\\anac onda\\1.6.0\\lib\\plat-win', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\lib-tk', 'c :\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-p ackages', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\PIL', 'c:\\app\ \python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\pythonnet', 'c:\\app\\python\\anac onda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\win32', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\ \site-packages\\win32\\lib', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packag es\\Pythonwin', 'c:\\app\\python\\anaconda\\1.6.0\\lib\\site-packages\\setuptool s-0.6c11-py2.7.egg-info'] >>> import System Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> ImportError: No module named System >>> import clr Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> ImportError: DLL load failed: %1 is not a valid Win32 application. C:\>dir c:\app\python\anaconda\1.6.0\lib\site-packages\pythonnet\ Volume in drive C is Local Disk Volume Serial Number is 8242-AA56 Directory of c:\app\python\anaconda\1.6.0\lib\site-packages\pythonnet 07/22/2013 04:43 PM <DIR> . 07/22/2013 04:43 PM <DIR> .. 12/29/2012 04:28 PM 3,584 clr.pyd 12/29/2012 04:27 PM 275,968 nPython.exe 12/29/2012 04:27 PM 13,824 nPython.pdb 12/29/2012 04:15 PM 375,296 Python.Runtime.dll 12/29/2012 04:15 PM 411,136 Python.Runtime.pdb 5 File(s) 1,079,808 bytes 2 Dir(s) 339,216,891,904 bytes free On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Bradley Friedman <brad(a)fie.us> wrote: > You may be able to drop the binaries into those locations. Note I said > build/acquire. In that case you'd acquire. > > Deployment is another matter. > > When it comes to PyDev, you'll want to make sure it's using the PYTHONPATH > and site-packages locations you think it is. Further, you should probably > figure out if "import clr" works. And from there, work on importing .net > namespaces. If sometime fails, we'll need specific console output or stack > traces to be of any use here I'd think. > > -brad > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >To make PythonNet install formally inside an existing CPython, you are > looking to build/acquire it as a module and install that module in your > PYTHONPATH or in your site-packages for that CPython. > >There are a number of ways to do this. depending on what you are > downloading or building and where you are deploying. > > So I can't just take the pythonnet binaries and put them on PYTHONPATH or > in site-packages? I have to build it from source as a module? Either > PYTHONPATH or site-packages will work for me; at this point I just want to > make it work somehow. I tried with PyDev and can't seem to get it to > recognize that System is a valid import. > > This is for an in-house tool that I need to make as easy as possible to > install and use, I just need to write up the install procedure. It uses a > data acquisition system which has .NET libraries but nothing for "pure" > Python. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Bradley Friedman <brad(a)fie.us> wrote: > >> To make PythonNet install formally inside an existing CPython, you are >> looking to build/acquire it as a module and install that module in your >> PYTHONPATH or in your site-packages for that CPython. There are a number >> of ways to do this. depending on what you are downloading or building and >> where you are deploying. >> >> You will likely need to better define your ultimate deployment >> requirements/needs to figure out how you'd want to approach that issue. >> >> -brad >> >> On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi there-- >> > >> > I've used Python a lot but am new to pythondotnet. I got it running on >> Windows 7 with no problem, by unzipping the download file, making sure >> PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME were setup properly, and running npython.exe. >> > >> > How do you get it to run in a debugger? (either PyDev on Eclipse, or >> Microsoft PTVS) >> > >> > Also, is there a way to install it "permanently" in an existing Python >> installation so that it will pickup the pythondotnet bridge when you run >> the regular "python.exe"? >> > >> > --Jason >> > _________________________________________________ >> > Python.NET mailing list - PythonDotNet(a)python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythondotnet >> >> > >

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Fwd: debugging
by Jason Sachs 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

>To make PythonNet install formally inside an existing CPython, you are looking to build/acquire it as a module and install that module in your PYTHONPATH or in your site-packages for that CPython. >There are a number of ways to do this. depending on what you are downloading or building and where you are deploying. So I can't just take the pythonnet binaries and put them on PYTHONPATH or in site-packages? I have to build it from source as a module? Either PYTHONPATH or site-packages will work for me; at this point I just want to make it work somehow. I tried with PyDev and can't seem to get it to recognize that System is a valid import. This is for an in-house tool that I need to make as easy as possible to install and use, I just need to write up the install procedure. It uses a data acquisition system which has .NET libraries but nothing for "pure" Python. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Bradley Friedman <brad(a)fie.us> wrote: > To make PythonNet install formally inside an existing CPython, you are > looking to build/acquire it as a module and install that module in your > PYTHONPATH or in your site-packages for that CPython. There are a number > of ways to do this. depending on what you are downloading or building and > where you are deploying. > > You will likely need to better define your ultimate deployment > requirements/needs to figure out how you'd want to approach that issue. > > -brad > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Jason Sachs <jmsachs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi there-- > > > > I've used Python a lot but am new to pythondotnet. I got it running on > Windows 7 with no problem, by unzipping the download file, making sure > PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME were setup properly, and running npython.exe. > > > > How do you get it to run in a debugger? (either PyDev on Eclipse, or > Microsoft PTVS) > > > > Also, is there a way to install it "permanently" in an existing Python > installation so that it will pickup the pythondotnet bridge when you run > the regular "python.exe"? > > > > --Jason > > _________________________________________________ > > Python.NET mailing list - PythonDotNet(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythondotnet > >

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Re: [Python.NET] debugging
by Tribble, Brett 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Yeah, I need to upgrade to the 2.0 beta. It's nice to see that pythondotnet has PTVS devs watching it. PTVS is one of the cooler things to come out of Microsoft! From: Bradley Friedman [mailto:brad@fie.us] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:10 PM To: Tribble, Brett Cc: Jason Sachs; pythondotnet(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Python.NET] debugging it looks like there's something similar to the WingIDE solution, for PTVS http://pytools.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Remote%20Debugging%20for%20Windo… -brad On Jul 22, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Bradley Friedman <brad(a)fie.us<mailto:brad@fie.us>> wrote: Yea I usually do that until I give up and go through the trouble of setting up a complex debugging environment. Usually it's caused by trying to debug Python code inside of Maya. And I end up wrapping entry points in calls to the debugger. Since I'm usually using WingIDE for that, it's usually done this way: http://wingware.com/doc/debug/importing-the-debugger Likewise, when I'm stuck on a Python <--> .NET debugging problem, I usually do the same if my main entry point was a .NET one. If it's the other way around, I'm usually attaching mono-develop manually or VS manually. But the key in that case is to have breakpoints set. I've not really found a great way to launch .NET remote debugging from within a .NET runtime. But I do think the best solution will none-the-less, be a remote debugging styled solution, like it is handled in WingIDE. Or, how something like Unity3D handles mono debugging as remote debugging. I have messed around with the Debugging classes inside of .NET a little bit. And they can be useful for things like making your app pause until a debugger is attached, and such. On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:48 PM, "Tribble, Brett" <btribble(a)ea.com<mailto:btribble@ea.com>> wrote: I'm guessing that yes, it is Reflection. I'm sure I could cobble together something that works, but I haven't wanted to spend the time to play with it that much. I'm pretty used to debugging by instrumenting code with a ton of logging and "print statements" regardless.

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debugging
by Jason Sachs 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Hi there-- I've used Python a lot but am new to pythondotnet. I got it running on Windows 7 with no problem, by unzipping the download file, making sure PYTHONPATH and PYTHONHOME were setup properly, and running npython.exe. How do you get it to run in a debugger? (either PyDev on Eclipse, or Microsoft PTVS) Also, is there a way to install it "permanently" in an existing Python installation so that it will pickup the pythondotnet bridge when you run the regular "python.exe"? --Jason

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Re: [Python.NET] debugging
by Tribble, Brett 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

I'm guessing that yes, it is Reflection. I'm sure I could cobble together something that works, but I haven't wanted to spend the time to play with it that much. I'm pretty used to debugging by instrumenting code with a ton of logging and "print statements" regardless. From: Bradley Friedman [mailto:brad@fie.us] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:39 PM To: Tribble, Brett Cc: Jason Sachs; pythondotnet(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Python.NET] debugging I'm intrigued by this Brett. Is it that all the .NET Reflection gets in the way? I could certainly see that being a problem. Though I'd think you could get around it by setting break points at the entry points of concern? This is always a problem for these kinds of cross language bridges. Often each language consumes exceptions from the other and eliminates the "uncaught exception" as a useful debug tool. Though hard-core developers will often suggest that uncaught exceptions should never be allowed anyway. So maybe that's not really a problem. An example would be very interesting to see if nothing else. On Jul 22, 2013, at 3:32 PM, "Tribble, Brett" <btribble(a)ea.com<mailto:btribble@ea.com>> wrote: but trying to cross the bridge between the two leaves you debugging pythondotnet, and not the .NET project you actually want to debug.

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Problem while importing lxml.html
by Avi Mitrani 14 Jul '13

14 Jul '13

Hi, I have a module that works perfectly when I use the Python interpreter. When I try to import it from c# using PythonDotNet, it fails on the line "import lxml.html". the error message is: "Object reference not set to an instance of an object". "import lxml" works OK, but "import lxml.html" fails! - What can I do to correct this? Please help! Avi

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Calling Python functions/objects forom C# code
by Avi Mitrani 07 Jul '13

07 Jul '13

Dear mailing list members, I'm new to PythonDotNet, and to integrating Python & C#, and I have to say that I'm 'breaking my teeth' with it; can't find the right examples on the web. The context: I want to use the rich machine learning resources found in python (like scikit-learn) inside a big project written in c#. The problem: can't get started! - haven't even managed to call a function yet. Is there an example or tutorial you can direct me to? Let's say that I want to call the function fib2 from the first example module in python.org, called (fibo.py): ------------------------------------------------------- # Fibonacci numbers module def fib(n): # write Fibonacci series up to n a, b = 0, 1 while b < n: print b, a, b = b, a+b def fib2(n): # return Fibonacci series up to n result = [] a, b = 0, 1 while b < n: result.append(b) a, b = b, a+b return result ------------------------------------------------------- These lines compile J : PythonEngine.Initialize(); PyObject fibmodule = PythonEngine.ImportModule("fibo"); PyObject fibfunc = fibmodule.GetAttr("fib2"); Where do I go from here? How do I send input and get the output into c# array/list? I guess I would need to use PyInt & PyList. How do I do that? Thanks in advance, Avi

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Re: [Python.NET] Python 3 version of Python for .NET
by Kyle Rocha 05 Jul '13

05 Jul '13

Ah, cheers. On 5 Jul 2013 08:16, "Tony Roberts" <tony(a)pyxll.com> wrote: > Anywhere on your pythonpath should do. If you use the setupwin.py from my > github fork you should just be able to do 'python setupwin.py install' to > put it in your site-packages (best to use virtualenv if you do that). > > Tony. > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Kyle Rocha <kyle.rocha(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's odd, I'll have to just keep trying. Thanks for getting most of the >> legwork done on 3.x. >> >> There must be something else I'm missing. Where are you supposed to put >> the dll? >> >> / kyle >> On 5 Jul 2013 07:01, "Tony Roberts" <tony(a)pyxll.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I made some changes to get it working in Python 3 a while ago. The >>> code's on github: https://github.com/tonyroberts/pythonnet. >>> >>> I've tested it with 3.3 x64 and it works ok for me (although I've only >>> really used the 3.2 x64 build extensively). >>> >>> regards, >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Kyle Rocha <kyle.rocha(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone tried this in a 64bit process with Python 3.3? >>>> >>>> I've been trying to get it to run but I can't seem to get past >>>> "dynamic module does not define init function CLR_init" or something >>>> to that effect. >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Python.NET mailing list - PythonDotNet(a)python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythondotnet >>>> >>> >>> >

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