[BangPypers] Responding to people who lack the curiosity

Lakshman Prasad scorpion032 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 13 13:30:29 CEST 2009

> Take TCS, they have 50K java programmers- they can't afford to retrain
It is not so much the effort involved to retrain
in a particular programming language as it is to change the prevelant
culture. I am curious to see how they change and adapt,
as I am skeptical that the cost difference advantage will sustain them for a
much longer time.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Friday 12 June 2009 14:05:18 Mandar Gokhale wrote:
> > Jayanth: I've come to lament the factory like nature of IT in India.
> People
> > learn extremely minimal subset of specialized skills. I've had chaps who
> > can't see beyond .NET or Java very simply because these are industry
> > idioms. I tell them stuff about perl, python or ruby and I get back "but
> > those are scripting languages".
> >
> >
> > Just a slightly unrelated question here.......doesn't the industry follow
> > .NET and Java more than Python/Perl as well? (I've heard this said by
> > several people in the States as well.) So maybe a change in the industry
> > mindset would help..
> there is a pecking order - generally Java programmers are at the top of the
> heap. They usually would not even condescend to _talk_ to a non-java
> programmer. If you cannot write 5000 lines of UML to generate 10000 lines
> of
> XML to generate 50000 lines of java code, you are no one.
> the next in the food chain are DOTNET guys - ability to click, drag and
> drop
> is essential. Ability to think is optional (at times actionable).
> and at the bottom of the food chain are the scripting guys - also useful to
> send round the corner for coffee.
> but the moment these guys leave industry - guess what language they choose?
> and why do the corporates not change? Take TCS, they have 50K java
> programmers
> - they can't afford to retrain them. So it is not a question of Java is
> best
> for enterprise (we all know python is the best), but a question of
> enterprise
> has invested too much in java programmers and cannot afford to shift from
> java
> (or dotnet as the case may be)
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Associate
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