[Mailman-Users] New user - Mailman question

Richard Barrett r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk
Sat Aug 21 08:39:44 CEST 2004


As a matter of courtesy, when replying to question posted to the list 
by somebody, I always respond to the individual poster with a copy for 
information to the list so that the discussion is available to other 
subscribers and within the list archives.

I have no objection to you having a spam management policy which may 
trap and even discard my response to you, even though you have actively 
solicited that message from me. That is your valid choice. What I 
object to is my inbox being further cluttered with messages, from spam 
management software telling me I have to fill in its form if I wish to 
communicate with this or that person. In my view such software just 
adds to the spam we are all suffering from.


On 21 Aug 2004, at 05:45, Charles Mikecz Vamossy wrote:

> Richard - I am sorry your note got caught up in my ISP's "crap" 
> software.  Actually, I had no idea that you were going to send me a 
> direct response to a question  I posed to a list.  Had I known that, I 
> would not have bothered to sign up.  I don't know if it was Mailman or 
> you, yourself, who decided to put your email address in the "from" 
> field", but I signed up for a daily digest form, mailed firectly from 
> the list and not all this "crap" - as you call it.
> Charles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Barrett <r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk>
> Sent: Aug 20, 2004 4:17 PM
> To: Charles Mikecz Vamossy <taursus at ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] New user - Mailman question
> On 20 Aug 2004, at 20:39, Charles Mikecz Vamossy wrote:
>> HI, I am a new member of the list and a list administrator responsible
>> for two lists.  Frankly I am struggling with some of the features and
>> functions and I thought I would ask "my elders" for some guidance.
>> Our lists are very simple: we distribute weekly information to members
>> about our organization's programs.  Our members sign themselves up
>> automatically, receive a confirmation request and when they respond,
>> they get a welcome letter.  Only two people (who are also the
>> administrators) can send postings.  Letters sent by other members and
>> non-members should be rejected automatically, with an explanation.
>> (They can write to our organization directly...)
>> The problem is that non-members have apparently written postings and
>> we, laboring under the impression that if we do nothing, their letters
>> will get deleted, did in fact do nothing - and the letters appeared on
>> the list.  Apparently, we are told by the folks who run the lists for
>> us, there is a "set period of quarantine", and when that expires, the
>> letters are treated as approved.  This is news to us, and we are
>> unable to find any reference to it in any documentation.
> No version of MM since I started using it with version 2.0.3 has
> behaved this way so it is news to me too. Held postings will be held
> indefinitely with MM sender regular reminders to the list admins that
> there are held postings.
> You do not say what version of MM you are running (or rather is being
> run on your behalf). If it is MM 2.1.x you should be able to use the
> Privacy options on the web admin GUI senders filter page for the list
> to arrange for postings from anyone other than your nominated list
> posters automatically rejected or discarded. Presumably you have
> already set moderation on for all your subscribers.
> Is it possible someone with list admin access approved the postings and
> the explanation you have received is just trying to explain that away
> by positing some non-existent MM feature?
>> Can you help us and tell us where to find information on this?  Are
>> there any parameters we can set differently?  Is there anyone out
>> there with a similar problem and how do you handle it?
>> many thanks in advance
>> Charles

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