[Mailman-Users] Email command upgrade
Stephen J. Turnbull
stephen at xemacs.org
Tue Oct 5 09:58:52 CEST 2004
>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org> writes:
Brad> Well, by default, it doesn't ignore or hide the List-*
Brad> headers, and turns them into proper clickable links. [...]
Brad> This is all that needs to be done to properly
Brad> implement the RFC.
If you think that's "proper" .... Hm ... let's put it this way:
For most users most of the time those headers are an annoyance.
They're already subscribed, 'F' directs a followup to the list, they
don't want to unsubscribe, etc. The rest of the time, it's trivial to
format them as a pulldown or popup menu. Wouldn't _you_ prefer them
that way? The only question is how to properly draw attention to the
facility so it doesn't get lost in the Macromedia[tm] Flash[R].
Brad> Mailman does the right thing here,
Brad> as does Qualcomm/Eudora.
Arguable, as it's basically what Gnus does ;-), but apparently the
users disagree. The Eudora interface reeks of Emacs thinking, which
*I* love, but I wouldn't inflict on my mother or even my siblings (two
out of three of whom develop software for a living).
Look, since Eudora is doing basically the right thing here, I should
stop trashtalking them. (*sigh*, again. It's a sad world we live in
when drawing parallels to Emacs is "trashtalk".) But we can and
should (IMHO) encourage them to offer the users something which is a
_clear_ (even to one looking through stained-glass Windows)
improvement over Murky-sloppy software.
Uncle Benji> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to
Uncle Benji> purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither
Uncle Benji> Liberty nor Safety."
True, but remember: deservedly or not, they outvote us 100 to 1.
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