[Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

Harold Paulson haroldp at sierraweb.com
Thu Mar 2 21:16:26 CET 2006

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>>> Like most people who've been running mailing lists for 20+ years, I
>>> have strong opinions about list policy. Please address the mechanism
>>> I asked for instead of seeking to discuss the policy issues.
>> You have a policy problem with your MTA, not your MLM.
> Which part of "I don't think we should talk about the policy issues"
> do you not understand? Please stop wasting your own time.

Hey don't do what you are complaining about others doing.  I understand 
you got some crummy replies, but take a moment to understand what I am 
saying.  It was meant to be constructive.

Do you really have a *policy* to accept messages that you will never 
deliver, save them to disk, and then generate reject messages for them? 
  Or is that simply the way your MTA+MLM is configured by default?  Is 
that *policy* really any different from your standpoint, from rejecting 
undeliverable messages during SMTP?

Real users who send from the wrong email account, for example, would 
still have their messages returned to them either way.  The only 
difference is that the bounce will be generated by their MTA, and not 
yours.  You can still include the reason the message was rejected.

Junk from spammers will never land on your disks, you will not be 
flooding yahoo users with incomprehensible "reject" notices for stuff 
they didn't send, or annoying yahoo.com's postmaster with a blizzard of 
messages to non-existant accounts.

It would not be inconsistent with your current MLM policy.  It is 
simply a better mechanism for implementing it, a better MTA policy, and 
better netizenship to boot.

	- H

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