[Mailman-Users] Formatted email

Chuck Puckett puckett_chuck at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 28 22:54:26 CEST 2007


Hmmm. Not sure that Content Filtering is the obvious place, at least for me.
I tend to separate (in my mind) content from format. And never been to that
particular page before, so didn't really think about it.

In any case: filter_content is already set to No. pass_mime_types has
multipart/mixed, /alternative and text/plain. Instructions say "Leave this
field blank to skip this filter test", which might lead one to blank out the
field. But I suspect this is default, yes? I've certainly never touched
anything on this page.

convert_html_to_plaintext is set to Yes, and that looks suspicious. Seems
like I'd want it No, and pass_mime_types blanked out, if I understand
commentary (which is doubtful). But the top guy is set to NO, so that
implies rest of the settings are probably ignored.

I mean, the people that are getting these messages are overwhelmingly
Windows/likely Outlook users. I don't think most of them would know MIME
from MISSOURI. Is there something they'd need to do that's not done by

Btw: I never copy myself to CC: or BCC: I just send to the list, and I get a
nicely formatted message.

Chuck Puckett, Esq., BS, ~MS, ThD 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:msapiro at value.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:30 PM
To: Chuck Puckett; mailman-users at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Formatted email

Chuck Puckett wrote:

>When I send a message to my Mailman lists (for which I'm a member), I get
>the original formatted message. (I put pictures and dress it up: it's
>announcing theatre events, good to spice it up).
>Some (all?) of my membership apparently have the formatting stripped, and
>just get plain text. Does mailman strip formatting? If so, why does it
>appear formatted to me?

There are two possibilities. Posibility one is you are looking at your
sent message or a Cc: or Bcc: that you sent to yourself.

Possibility two is that the list is actually sending the post out as
received from you, but it is multipart/alternative with a text/plain
part and a text/html part and those users who don't see the formatting
have their MUAs set to display the text/plain alternative or have MUAs
that don't recognize MIME email.

>And can I let the formatting pass on through? I see
>no obvious properties that seem to control this ("plain" on the Membership
>Management refers to a digest, which is not what I'm intending, nor wish to
>have used in that manner).

The controls are under Content filtering (Is that not obvious?). The
simplest thing, especially if this is an announce list and you do all
the posting, is to set filter_content to No. Then Mailman will send
the post as received with only the possible addition of msg_header and
msg_footer if any.

If your list is already set this way, then the issue is probably
possibility two above.

Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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