[Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing Problem

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Sat Mar 2 12:42:24 CET 2013

I figured out what is happening and there is no help for it. The seeming
inconsistency is because when I send mail to the list, I authenticate as
the account owner so, the headers are not rewritten. When other members
send messages to the list it still authenticates with my account, thus
the headers are rewritten. That explains all the issues including bounce
processing and from headers.

I'm looking for an alternative relay and may have found a solution
(albeit in Europe). I'm still researching it.

Thanks for everyone's help, especially Mark.

On 3/1/2013 4:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/1/2013 7:28 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>> I have been having trouble with bounce processing. Bounced messages are being sent to the list admin (not uncaught bounces).
> Please send me a complete, raw copy of one such bounce as received by
> the list owner.
> Note that I'm guessing based on recent off-list correspondence that
> possibly your Yahoo smarthost is now rewriting the envelope sender to
> your address from listname-bounces at ..., but this is only a guess.
>> However, I don't seem to get rid of those bad addresses from the list.
> Are you trying to remove them manually or just waiting for bounce
> processing to do it. If the bounces go to you and not Mailman, Mailman
> will never record then or do anything about it.
>> When I ran a bounce report I got the error below so I am guessing that this may be related to the problem.
> It's not related, but
>> Importing get_bounce_info...
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist", line 302, in <module>
>>     main()
>>   File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist", line 270, in main
>>     __import__(module)
>> ImportError: No module named get_bounce_info
> Did you download <http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/get_bounce_info.py> (or
> <http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~msapiro/scripts/get_bounce_info.py>) and save
> it as /usr/lib/mailman/bin/get_bounce_info.py?
>> Null message body; hope that's ok
> What does the above mean?
>> What may have caused that module to disappear and could this be why bad addresses are not being removed?
> It's not a Mailman module. It's one of my utility scripts. If you
> actually downloaded it and saved it in the appropriate place, I don't
> know why it's gone now. If you downloaded it some time ago, perhaps it
> was saved in a different location.
> No, this has nothing to do with bounces not being processed to remove
> bouncing addresses. That is apparently because bounces are being
> returned to you and mot to Mailman.

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