Mailman 3 October 2012 - scikit-image

Re: scikits-image or scikit-image?
by Tony Yu Oct. 3, 2012

Oct. 3, 2012

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za>wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za> > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Andreas Mueller > > <amueller(a)ais.uni-bonn.de> wrote: > >>> I've reconfigured all our domains to go to skimage.org, but this may > >>> take a while to propagate. Let's hope we don't have too much > >>> down-time. > >> > >> Not sure if that is expected but everything is down for me atm. > >> Just FYI. > > > > I've reconfigured the DNS servers, but they are not cooperating. I > > hope to have this resolved within the next few hours. > > I've been battling it out with ZoneEdit to no avail, so I've now > re-created our DNS setup at NameCheap. Hopefully, changes should kick > in within the next hour or so *hold thumbs* > > These changes will not affect scikit-learn.org. > > Stéfan > Everything seems to be working now. Thanks!

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Re: scikits-image or scikit-image?
by Stéfan van der Walt Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Andreas Mueller > <amueller(a)ais.uni-bonn.de> wrote: >>> I've reconfigured all our domains to go to skimage.org, but this may >>> take a while to propagate. Let's hope we don't have too much >>> down-time. >> >> Not sure if that is expected but everything is down for me atm. >> Just FYI. > > I've reconfigured the DNS servers, but they are not cooperating. I > hope to have this resolved within the next few hours. I've been battling it out with ZoneEdit to no avail, so I've now re-created our DNS setup at NameCheap. Hopefully, changes should kick in within the next hour or so *hold thumbs* These changes will not affect scikit-learn.org. Stéfan

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Re: scikits-image or scikit-image?
by Andreas Mueller Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

> Agreed, and we should probably just get this behind us ASAP. OK, I now own > > scikit-learn, scikits-image, skimage and scikit-image > > I've reconfigured all our domains to go to skimage.org, but this may > take a while to propagate. Let's hope we don't have too much > down-time. Not sure if that is expected but everything is down for me atm. Just FYI. > To the rest of the team: are you OK with re-branding to > ``scikit-image``? I know it's painful, but I think it's important > that all the scikits present a unified brand. +1 from my side.

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Re: Docs
by Schönberger Johannes Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

I opened a PR for this: https://github.com/scikits-image/scikits-image/pull/335 Johannes Schönberger Am 02.10.2012 um 09:06 schrieb Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za>: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Schönberger Johannes > <hannesschoenberger(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Also, the CSS design team should be credited somewhere. >> >> You mean the bootstrap team? I think it is best to list them in the footer next to the "sphinx" credit. > > Sounds good. > >> I really like the "Ralway" font. >> >> See: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hful1w3vso3achp/skimage%20website.zip >> >> If everything's fine so far, I'll create it a sphinx template for this. > > Perfect! > > Stéfan

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Re: Docs
by Schönberger Johannes Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

Hi, > Could we scale up the logo a bit and move it a tad to the left? And > perhaps add a slightly darker gray (than the box itself) background to > the "Image processing in Python" box? Perhaps like the other boxes, > my guess would be roughly > > border: 1px solid #ccc; Now looks like all the other boxes. > Also, the CSS design team should be credited somewhere. You mean the bootstrap team? I think it is best to list them in the footer next to the "sphinx" credit. > With the very prominent "Download" button, we also don't need that at the top. Right, removed. > Finally, we can use a different font to distinguish the website. > Perhaps Raleway, Ubuntu, PT Sans or Duru Sans? Add to > bootstrap.min.css's: I really like the "Ralway" font. See: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hful1w3vso3achp/skimage%20website.zip If everything's fine so far, I'll create it a sphinx template for this. Johannes

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Re: scikits-image or scikit-image?
by Emmanuelle Gouillart Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 11:53:25PM -0700, StÃ¯Â¿Â½fan van der Walt wrote: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM, SchÃ¯Â¿Â½nberger Johannes > <hannesschoenberger(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > What problems do we get, if we also rename the repos - apart from slightly adapting our forks? > Everyone needs to update their forks, we need to go through the docs > carefully and make replacements, the website needs to be updated, the > Google+ page, etc. Nothing impossible, just a hassle. But let's do > this one more time, if the rest of the core team agrees. +1

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Re: scikits-image or scikit-image?
by Schönberger Johannes Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

I also think, that scikit-image is better. > And do we rename the repos again as well, or just the branding? That > was a major pain last time. What problems do we get, if we also rename the repos - apart from slightly adapting our forks? Johannes Schönberger Am 02.10.2012 um 05:19 schrieb Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za>: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za> wrote: >> To the rest of the team: are you OK with re-branding to >> ``scikit-image``? I know it's painful, but I think it's important >> that all the scikits present a unified brand. > > And do we rename the repos again as well, or just the branding? That > was a major pain last time. > > Stéfan

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Re: Coverage table on the website
by Stéfan van der Walt Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Wei LI <liwei(a)ee.cuhk.edu.hk> wrote: > For the functions, I personally need some functions like im2col in matlab > and I would be rather happy to implement in scikits-image. I think you can already do that, based on the image windows implemented by Nicolas Pinto et al. > @Stéfan MATLAB compatibility table can provide us an example for how to > organize the functions for an image-processing toolbox and get more users to > transfer from matlab to use skimage. I just want to make myself clear of > what the project lacks currently and what priority is that. Agreed, as long as it is up to date; at the moment that table does not reflect the state of skimage. > IMHO, I think if the pages on the tasks in the contribution page can > describe each tasks in more details then it would be more friendly to new > contributors? Another thing is maybe adding one chapter to describe the core > API is quite useful, like the image classes and other developer utilities is > useful? +1 Stéfan

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Re: Coverage table on the website
by Stéfan van der Walt Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Tony Yu <tsyu80(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On a related note: I was thinking of removing the tasks from the > contribution page: > > http://scikits-image.org/docs/dev/contribute.html > > And adding those tasks to a wiki page on github. Thoughts? That's a great idea--it would make it much easier to update. Stéfan

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Re: Coverage table on the website
by Wei LI Oct. 2, 2012

Oct. 2, 2012

@Tony It may be more clear if all tasks in the contribution page have an issue :) For the functions, I personally need some functions like im2col in matlab and I would be rather happy to implement in scikits-image. @Stéfan MATLAB compatibility table can provide us an example for how to organize the functions for an image-processing toolbox and get more users to transfer from matlab to use skimage. I just want to make myself clear of what the project lacks currently and what priority is that. IMHO, I think if the pages on the tasks in the contribution page can describe each tasks in more details then it would be more friendly to new contributors? Another thing is maybe adding one chapter to describe the core API is quite useful, like the image classes and other developer utilities is useful? Best, Wei On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Tony Yu <tsyu80(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Stéfan van der Walt <stefan(a)sun.ac.za>wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Josh Warner <silvertrumpet999(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Should function-for-function feature parity, even where this is not >> > particularly useful, be a goal? That's what I get from this table. >> > >> [...] >> > >> > As a reformed Matlab user, I personally prefer the general Python way >> which >> > is not "everything and the kitchen sink" in one massive package, but >> more >> > pick-and-choose from a diverse toolkit for the problem(s) at hand. But >> > that's just me. >> >> Thanks for your thoughts, Josh, I agree with the points you make. >> >> In my recent talk at EuroSciPy, I mentioned that the MATLAB >> compatibility table was probably a mistake on my part. At that time, >> I was trying to find a way forward with skimage that would help us to >> grow, and providing an easy route of transitioning for users from >> other platforms seemed like a worthwhile goal. >> >> Looking back, especially at my experience with Octave, I realize that >> trying to imitate another package squashes much innovation and does >> not lead to well-designed or Pythonic solutions. In the mean time, >> the core team has grown, with a very active role being played by >> excellent coders such as Tony, Johannes, Andreas, and others, so I >> feel much less pressured to continue along that path. >> >> I think the compatibility table could still be useful as a list of >> "pointers", but unless someone updates it soon, we should think about >> removing it. That role can also be played by the user guide >> (unfortunately, one of our weak points, which I'd love to address). >> >> Stéfan >> > > > I agree: we probably don't want to match Matlab function-for-function. > Nevertheless, it'd be nice to have some of the functions on the coverage > table. Just out of curiosity: > > Are there any functions on that list that people are really yearning > for? > > That's directed particularly at *users* of scikits-image, rather than the > core developers. I'm not promising I (or anyone else) would implemented it, > but it'd be nice to get a sense of what's missing from some people outside > of the handful that regularly comment on the list. > > On a related note: I was thinking of removing the tasks from the > contribution page: > > http://scikits-image.org/docs/dev/contribute.html > > And adding those tasks to a wiki page on github. Thoughts? > > -Tony > >

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