Mailman 3 April 2006 - pypy-dev

how to get into the codebase? Open bugs?
by Niko Matsakis 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

Hello, I am yet-another-compiler-PhD-student interested in exploring PyPy. I have been lurking on the list for some time, and a Python enthusiast for longer, but I have yet to really dig into PyPy to get a better understanding of how it works (beyond what is published on the web site). In previous jobs and lives, I've always found that fixing a few simple bugs or implementing some low priority features can be a great way to delve into a code base. As such, I am wondering if there is a list somewhere of such "open bugs" or pending tasks that I might try to tackle. I understand that attending a Code Sprint would also be a great way to get into the code, but I'm not sure how/when I'll be able to fit that into my schedule. Perhaps if there is one close to Switzerland, or somewhere my wife wouldn't going on vacation. :) Eventually, of course, I'd love to be conversant enough with the PyPy code base to try experimenting more boldly with it, but I guess one must take baby steps before one can run. Niko

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Re: email problem, please use this address
by Christian Tismer 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

Christian Tismer wrote: > Hi, > > I have trouble with tismer.com, which happened to crash right now when > I'm > in the US. I hope to get in contact with service staff late nonight. > > Until then, please use this email address if you want to reach me. > > cheers - chris > This happened again, today! so, pls see above :-)

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Rtyping classes definitions?
by Antonio Cuni 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

Hi, I'm writing the code that generates CLI classes starting from ootypesystem classes definitions, but as always I have a problem :-). At the moment the only way to access class definitions is by calling TranslationContext.annotator.getuserclassdefinitions(), which returns a list of ClassDef instances: I've noticed that class attributes are not typed but only annotated. Obviously for generating CLI classes I need to rtype class definitions, so that I can know the exact low-level type of the fields: I wondered if the absence of the rtyping step is intended or if it is a thing to do. In the latter case I could try to do it (hoping to do better than with rlist :-). ciao Anto

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inquiry: phd positions
by Jakob Praher 04 Apr '06

04 Apr '06

hi all, my name is Jakob Praher. I am located in Linz, Austria. Currently I am finishing my master thesis, which is about developing an aspect oriented dynamic bytecode instrumentation framework for program analysis on top of LLVM. I am very interested to work in that area as a PHd student. From your website I know you are also working on an LLVM backend. PyPy seems to be a European effort, so my naive question is, whether you have any PhD projects in this area or could point me to some further information. I would be very interested to hearing from you. Thank you Jakob

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Re: [pypy-dev] [Fwd: Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers (CfP)]
by Laura Creighton 02 Apr '06

02 Apr '06

In a message of Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:53:02 -0800, David Ascher writes: >Laura Creighton wrote: > >>Thank you Nik for this important information, we did indeed >>believe that we missed the deadline. >> >>David Ascher is Canadian, as is ActiveState. I have cc'd this to him >>so that he can go about the business of correcting the pure >>slander that they are American, because Nik has clearly taken >>this from some other site. >> >Thanks, I'd already gotten the CFP fixed, but after it started spreading. > >For the record, I'm not Canadian, although I am in Canada. I'm french >and american =). Interesting mix, apologies for getting it wrong. Laura Creighton - in Sweden, but from NOVA SCOTIA or ACADIE for those of us for whom such things matter :-) (we don't feel particularly 'Canadian' and leave that for the people of Ontario, but we sure know where home is. Since Nik is from Switzerland, he will understand this sort of feeling perfectly well. :-) ) Laura

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Re: [pypy-dev] [Fwd: Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers (CfP)]
by Laura Creighton 02 Apr '06

02 Apr '06

Thank you Nik for this important information, we did indeed believe that we missed the deadline. David Ascher is Canadian, as is ActiveState. I have cc'd this to him so that he can go about the business of correcting the pure slander that they are American, because Nik has clearly taken this from some other site. Laura Creighton In a message of Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:10:28 +0200, Niklaus Haldimann writes: >Hi there > >If I remember correctly some people were under the impression that the >deadline for the Dynamic Languages Symposium at OOPSLA has already >passed. Obviously this isn't so (it's June 1st, see below). If PyPy is >going to submit a technical paper to just one conference this year, it >should probably be this one. ;) Considering who's on the program >committee it's also likely that it will actually be accepted. > >Cheers >Nik > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers (CfP) >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:20:47 +0200 >From: Robert Hirschfeld <robert.hirschfeld(a)gmx.net> >Reply-To: hirschfeld(a)acm.org, The general-purpose Squeak developers list ><squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org, croquet(a)lists.wisc.edu > >Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers > >Call for papers > >Portland, Oregon, United States, October 22, 2006 > > >http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/dls2006/ > > >The Dynamic Languages Symposium (DLS) at OOPSLA 2006 is a forum for >discussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and application. >While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and >Prolog continue to grow and inspire new converts, a new generation of >dynamic scripting languages such as Python, Ruby, PHP, and JavaScript >are successful in a wide range of applications. DLS provides a place for >researchers and practitioners to come together and share their >knowledge, experience, and ideas for future research and development. > >The Technical Papers track of DLS 2006 invites high quality papers >reporting original research, innovative contributions or experience >related to dynamic languages, their implementation and application. >Accepted Papers will be published in the OOPSLA conference companion and >the ACM Digital Library. > > >Areas of interest include but are not limited to > >* Reflection and meta-programming >* Very late binding, dynamic composition, and runtime adaptation >* Actors and active objects >* Innovative language features and implementation techniques >* Development and platform support, tools >* Language symbiosis and multi-paradigm languages >* Experience reports and case studies >* Interesting applications >* Educational approaches and perspectives >* Domain-oriented programming >* Object-oriented, aspect-oriented, and context-oriented programming > > >Submissions and proceedings > >We invite original contributions that neither have been published >previously nor are under review by other refereed events or >publications. Research papers should describe work that advances the >current state of the art. Experience papers should be of broad interest >and should describe insights gained from substantive practical >applications. The program committee will evaluate each contributed paper >based on its relevance, significance, clarity, and originality. > >Papers are to be submitted electronically at >http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/node2006/ in PDF format. Submissions >need to use the ACM format, templates for which can be found at >http://www.acm.org/sigs/pubs/proceed/template.html. > > >Important dates > >Submission of papers (hard deadline): June 1, 2006 (Thursday) >Author notification: July 1, 2006 (Saturday) >Final version due: July 11, 2006 (Tuesday) >DLS Technical Papers Day: October 22, 2006 (Sunday) >DLS Invited Talks Day: October 23, 2006 (Monday) > > >Chair > >Robert Hirschfeld >Hasso-Plattner-Institut, University of Potsdam, Germany >hirschfeld(a)acm.org > > >Program committee > >David Asher, ActiveState, United States >Gilad Bracha, Sun Microsystems, United States >Pascal Costanza, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium >Richard P. Gabriel, Sun Microsystems Laboratories, United States >Robert Hirschfeld, HPI, University of Potsdam, Germany (chair) >David Leibs, Advanced Micro Devices, United States >Wolfgang De Meuter, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium >Stephane Ducasse, Universite de Savoie, France >Oscar Nierstrasz, University of Berne, Switzerland >Ian Piumarta, Viewpoints Research Institute, United States >David Simmons, Microsoft, United States >Michael Sperber, University of Tuebingen, Germany >Dave Thomas, Bedarra Research Labs, Canada >Martin von Loewis, HPI, University of Potsdam, Germany >Jon L White, United States >Allen Wirfs-Brock, Microsoft, United States >Roel Wuyts, Unversite Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium > > >_______________________________________________ >pypy-dev(a)codespeak.net >http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

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[Fwd: Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers (CfP)]
by Niklaus Haldimann 02 Apr '06

02 Apr '06

Hi there If I remember correctly some people were under the impression that the deadline for the Dynamic Languages Symposium at OOPSLA has already passed. Obviously this isn't so (it's June 1st, see below). If PyPy is going to submit a technical paper to just one conference this year, it should probably be this one. ;) Considering who's on the program committee it's also likely that it will actually be accepted. Cheers Nik -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers (CfP) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:20:47 +0200 From: Robert Hirschfeld <robert.hirschfeld(a)gmx.net> Reply-To: hirschfeld(a)acm.org, The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org, croquet(a)lists.wisc.edu Dynamic Languages Symposium 2006 - Technical Papers Call for papers Portland, Oregon, United States, October 22, 2006 http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/dls2006/ The Dynamic Languages Symposium (DLS) at OOPSLA 2006 is a forum for discussion of dynamic languages, their implementation and application. While mature dynamic languages including Smalltalk, Lisp, Scheme, and Prolog continue to grow and inspire new converts, a new generation of dynamic scripting languages such as Python, Ruby, PHP, and JavaScript are successful in a wide range of applications. DLS provides a place for researchers and practitioners to come together and share their knowledge, experience, and ideas for future research and development. The Technical Papers track of DLS 2006 invites high quality papers reporting original research, innovative contributions or experience related to dynamic languages, their implementation and application. Accepted Papers will be published in the OOPSLA conference companion and the ACM Digital Library. Areas of interest include but are not limited to * Reflection and meta-programming * Very late binding, dynamic composition, and runtime adaptation * Actors and active objects * Innovative language features and implementation techniques * Development and platform support, tools * Language symbiosis and multi-paradigm languages * Experience reports and case studies * Interesting applications * Educational approaches and perspectives * Domain-oriented programming * Object-oriented, aspect-oriented, and context-oriented programming Submissions and proceedings We invite original contributions that neither have been published previously nor are under review by other refereed events or publications. Research papers should describe work that advances the current state of the art. Experience papers should be of broad interest and should describe insights gained from substantive practical applications. The program committee will evaluate each contributed paper based on its relevance, significance, clarity, and originality. Papers are to be submitted electronically at http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/node2006/ in PDF format. Submissions need to use the ACM format, templates for which can be found at http://www.acm.org/sigs/pubs/proceed/template.html. Important dates Submission of papers (hard deadline): June 1, 2006 (Thursday) Author notification: July 1, 2006 (Saturday) Final version due: July 11, 2006 (Tuesday) DLS Technical Papers Day: October 22, 2006 (Sunday) DLS Invited Talks Day: October 23, 2006 (Monday) Chair Robert Hirschfeld Hasso-Plattner-Institut, University of Potsdam, Germany hirschfeld(a)acm.org Program committee David Asher, ActiveState, United States Gilad Bracha, Sun Microsystems, United States Pascal Costanza, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium Richard P. Gabriel, Sun Microsystems Laboratories, United States Robert Hirschfeld, HPI, University of Potsdam, Germany (chair) David Leibs, Advanced Micro Devices, United States Wolfgang De Meuter, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium Stephane Ducasse, Universite de Savoie, France Oscar Nierstrasz, University of Berne, Switzerland Ian Piumarta, Viewpoints Research Institute, United States David Simmons, Microsoft, United States Michael Sperber, University of Tuebingen, Germany Dave Thomas, Bedarra Research Labs, Canada Martin von Loewis, HPI, University of Potsdam, Germany Jon L White, United States Allen Wirfs-Brock, Microsoft, United States Roel Wuyts, Unversite Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium

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