Mailman 3 August 2019 - python-committers

PEP 581/588 RFC: Collecting feedback about GitHub Issues
by Mariatta 30 Aug '19

30 Aug '19

(cross posting to python-committers, python-dev, core-workflow) PEP 581: Using GitHub Issues has been accepted by the steering council, but PEP 588: GitHub Issues Migration plan is still in progress. I'd like to hear from core developers as well as heavy b.p.o users, the following: 1. what features do they find lacking from GitHub issues, or 2. what are the things you can do in b.p.o but not in GitHub, or 3. Other workflow that will be blocked if we were to switch to GitHub today By understanding your needs, we can be better prepared for the migration, and we can start looking for solutions. In addition, I received tip that the GitHub team is very motivated to help us, and if we can give them some of our most wanted features, they *might* be able to accommodate us. But first we need to tell them what we need. They're not promising anything, but I'd like to at least try and give them these suggestions. Action items: 1. Please leave your comment in this issue: https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/359 2. Leave your +1 by reacting 👍 to suggested feature by others 3. Please do this before October 1, 2019 (not a hard deadline) Thanks ᐧ

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[RELEASE] ACTION REQUIRED: Python 3.8.0b4 now available for testing
by Łukasz Langa 30 Aug '19

30 Aug '19

It's time for the last beta release of Python 3.8. Go find it at: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-380b4/ <https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-380b4/> This release is the last of four planned beta release previews. Beta release previews are intended to give the wider community the opportunity to test new features and bug fixes and to prepare their projects to support the new feature release. The next pre-release of Python 3.8 will be 3.8.0c1, the first release candidate, currently scheduled for 2019-09-30. Call to action We strongly encourage maintainers of third-party Python projects to test with 3.8 during the beta phase and report issues found to the Python bug tracker as soon as possible. Please note this is the last beta release, there is not much time left to identify and fix issues before the release of 3.8.0. If you were hesitating trying it out before, now is the time. While the release is planned to be feature complete entering the beta phase, it is possible that features may be modified or, in rare cases, deleted up until the start of the release candidate phase (2019-09-30). Our goal is have no ABI changes after beta 3 and no code changes after 3.8.0c1, the release candidate. To achieve that, it will be extremely important to get as much exposure for 3.8 as possible during the beta phase. That beta phase is coming to an end. Please test now. Please keep in mind that this is a preview release and its use is not recommended for production environments. Acknowledgments Many developers worked hard for the past four weeks to squash remaining bugs, some requiring non-obvious decisions. Many thanks to the most active, namely Raymond Hettinger, Steve Dower, Victor Stinner, Terry Jan Reedy, Serhiy Storchaka, Pablo Galindo Salgado, Tal Einat, Zackery Spytz, Ronald Oussoren, Neil Schemenauer, Inada Naoki, Christian Heimes, and Andrew Svetlov. 3.8.0 would not reach the Last Beta without you. Thank you! - Ł

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Ewa is looking to see if ppl attending the sprints want to go to Bletchley Park the Sunday before
by Brett Cannon 29 Aug '19

29 Aug '19

I'm sending on her behalf: Hi folks - Bletchley Park https://bletchleypark.org.uk/ <https://bletchleypark.org.uk/> may be of interest to some of you attending the Sprint in London. The park closes at 5pm so if there is a group of folks interested in going Sunday Sept 8th, it is recommended. Everyone can buy their tickets online <https://bletchleypark.org.uk/tickets#/>. Locals may have better suggestions on how to get there, but looking at maps <https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Premier+Inn+London+Bank+%28Tower%29+hotel,+…>, it takes about 1h30m to get to the Park via public transport from the hotel many of you are staying at (Premier Inn London Bank Tower). Going at 10am or 11am is probably best. If anyone is interested in going, feel free to *email me off-list *and I can start a separate email thread with those interested. Unfortunately, I am not going so beyond getting the discussion going, I won't be of much help after :) Best, Ewa P.S. for those that prefer to go the Saturday after the Sprint (Sept 14), please note that the website shows limited availability. I recommend booking your tickets ASAP if that day if your preference. Sunday before

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Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub
by Mariatta 22 Aug '19

22 Aug '19

We have a new Python triage team on GitHub to help improve our workflow. GitHub has a nice table that shows what a triager can or cannot do in general: https://help.github.com/en/articles/repository-permission-levels-for-an-org… More specific roles and responsibilities of the Python triage team are described in devguide: https://devguide.python.org/triaging/#python-triage-team The responsibilities are a little different than the Developer role that we currently have on b.p.o. On GitHub, triage team members have access to triage issues and pull requests not only in CPython repo, but also all the repositories owned by Python core team, including: devguide repo and all the bots' repos. Existing b.p.o Developers are not automatically added to Python triage team, but they can opt-in and request membership. Several reasons: - we don't know if the triager is still active or not - we don't know if the triager wants the added responsibilities or not Other contributors are also welcome to request the Python triage membership. All it takes is one core developer to approve the request. The process is fully documented in https://devguide.python.org/triaging/#becoming-a-member-of-the-python-triag…, and there is an issue template for requesting membership in core-workflow https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/new/choose The first two triage team members are Kyle Stanley and Jeroen Demeyer. Their requests were handled in: https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/353 https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/354 If you'd like more background on Python triage team and how we came to this stage, all of these have been discussed in discourse: - https://discuss.python.org/t/proposal-create-bug-triage-team-on-github/ - https://discuss.python.org/t/creating-the-python-triage-team-on-github/ - https://discuss.python.org/t/criteria-for-promoting-people-to-the-python-tr… - https://discuss.python.org/t/who-should-be-able-to-change-what-labels-on-gi… We also have a project board in core-workflow: https://github.com/python/core-workflow/projects/3 This is a new thing for us, and we're all still learning and getting use to it. Suggestions and ideas for improving the workflow can be discussed in Core Workflow category in discourse. Devguide improvements are also welcome. Thanks contributors, core devs, and The PSF infra team for all the help in getting this off the ground. And also thanks GitHub for giving us early access to the beta triage role! ᐧ

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GitHub: remove the "needs backport to 3.5" label?
by Victor Stinner 20 Aug '19

20 Aug '19

Hi, Python 3.5 entered security fix only mode. Should we now remove the "needs backport to 3.5" label? Other security only branches don't have this label neither (3.3 and 3.4). Victor

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MSDN subscriptions/renewals
by Brian Curtin 09 Aug '19

09 Aug '19

Hey all! It's everyone's favorite time of year: MSDN subscription season. Microsoft provides our team complimentary Microsoft Developer Network accounts, which gives us access to various Visual Studio versions, OS images, and a whole lot more in support of us developing and testing Python on Windows. *If you're interested, please read on and respond by Friday August 9.* In exchange for the following details, I'll submit our team's info as a batch and you should usually get an email about MSDN within a week. Sometimes the email goes to spam, and sometimes it doesn't get delivered at all. If yours is a renewal and you don't hear back, try logging in anyway next week. If it still doesn't work after a while, let me know and I'll ping our contact at Microsoft again and see if something went wrong. If you respond after Friday, that's fine, though it might take longer to process. *First Name:Last Name:* *Email Address:Complete Mailing Address:* Thanks for everyone's work! Brian

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Welcome Abhilash Raj to the Python core team!
by Brett Cannon 06 Aug '19

06 Aug '19

Assuming I didn't mess anything up, Abhilash is now set up!

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