Mailman 3 April 2002 - Distutils-SIG

Sample setup.py for Numeric Python
by Greg Ward 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

Hi again -- [cc'd to Paul Dubois: you said you weren't following the distutils sig anymore, but this directly concerns NumPy and I'd like to get your input!] here's that sample setup.py for NumPy. See below for discussion (and questions!). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #!/usr/bin/env python # Setup script example for building the Numeric extension to Python. # This does sucessfully compile all the .dlls. Nothing happens # with the .py files currently. # Move this file to the Numerical directory of the LLNL numpy # distribution and run as: # python numpysetup.py --verbose build_ext # # created 1999/08 Perry Stoll __rcsid__ = "$Id: numpysetup.py,v 1.1 1999/09/12 20:42:48 gward Exp $" from distutils.core import setup setup (name = "numerical", version = "0.01", description = "Numerical Extension to Python", url = "http://www.python.org/sigs/matrix-sig/", ext_modules = [ ( '_numpy', { 'sources' : [ 'Src/_numpymodule.c', 'Src/arrayobject.c', 'Src/ufuncobject.c' ], 'include_dirs' : ['./Include'], 'def_file' : 'Src/numpy.def' } ), ( 'multiarray', { 'sources' : ['Src/multiarraymodule.c'], 'include_dirs' : ['./Include'], 'def_file': 'Src/multiarray.def' } ), ( 'umath', { 'sources': ['Src/umathmodule.c'], 'include_dirs' : ['./Include'], 'def_file' : 'Src/umath.def' } ), ( 'fftpack', { 'sources': ['Src/fftpackmodule.c', 'Src/fftpack.c'], 'include_dirs' : ['./Include'], 'def_file' : 'Src/fftpack.def' } ), ( 'lapack_lite', { 'sources' : [ 'Src/lapack_litemodule.c', 'Src/dlapack_lite.c', 'Src/zlapack_lite.c', 'Src/blas_lite.c', 'Src/f2c_lite.c' ], 'include_dirs' : ['./Include'], 'def_file' : 'Src/lapack_lite.def' } ), ( 'ranlib', { 'sources': ['Src/ranlibmodule.c', 'Src/ranlib.c', 'Src/com.c', 'Src/linpack.c', ], 'include_dirs' : ['./Include'], 'def_file' : 'Src/ranlib.def' } ), ] ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ First, what d'you think? Too clunky and verbose? Too much information for each extension? I kind of think so, but I'm not sure how to reduce it elegantly. Right now, the internal data structures needed to compile a module are pretty obviously exposed: is this a good thing? Or should there be some more compact form for setup.py that will be expanded later into the full glory we see above? I've already made one small step towards reducing the amount of cruft by factoring 'include_dirs' out and supplying it directly as a parameter to 'setup()'. (But that needs code not in the CVS archive yet, so I've left the sample setup.py the same for now.) The next thing I'd like to do is get that damn "def_file" out of there. To support it in MSVCCompiler, there's already an ugly hack that unnecessarily affects both the UnixCCompiler and CCompiler classes, and I want to get rid of that. (I refer to passing the 'build_info' dictionary into the compiler classes, if you're familiar with the code -- that dictionary is part of the Distutils extension-building system, and should not propagate into the more general compiler classes.) But I don't want to give these weird "def file" things standing on the order of source files, object files, libraries, etc., because they seem to me to be a bizarre artifact of one particular compiler, rather than something present in a wide range of C/C++ compilers. Based on the NumPy model, it seems like there's a not-too-kludgy way to handle this problem. Namely: if building extension "foo": if file "foo.def" found in same directory as "foo.c" add "/def:foo.def" to MSVC command line this will of course require some platform-specific code in the build_ext command class, but I figured that was coming eventually, so why put it off? ;-) To make this hack work with NumPy, one change would be necessary: rename Src/numpy.def to Src/_numpy.def to match Src/_numpy.c, which implements the _numpy module. Would this be too much to ask of NumPy? (Paul?) What about other module distributions that support MSVC++ and thus ship with "def" files? Could they be made to accomodate this scheme? Thanks for your feedback -- Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer gward(a)cnri.reston.va.us Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive voice: +1-703-620-8990 Reston, Virginia, USA 20191-5434 fax: +1-703-620-0913

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Can now compile simple extensions
by Greg Ward 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

Hi all -- at long last, I found the time to hack in the ability to compile extension modules to the Distutils. Mainly, this meant adding a 'build_ext' command which uses a CCompiler instance for all its dirty work. I also had to add a few methods to CCompiler (and, of course, UnixCCompiler) to make this work. And I added a new module, 'spawn', which takes care of running sub-programs more efficiently and robustly (no shell involved) than os.system. That's needed, obviously, so we can run the compiler! If you're in the mood for grubbing over raw source code, then get the latest from CVS or download a current snapshot. See http://www.python.org/sigs/distutils-sig/implementation.html for a link to the code snapshot. I'm still waiting for more subclasses of CCompiler to appear. At the very least, we're going to need MSVCCompiler to build extensions on Windows. Any takers? Also, someone who knows the Mac, and how to run compilers programmatically there, will have to figure out how to write a Mac-specific concrete CCompiler subclass. The spawn module also needs a bit of work to be portable. I suspect that _win32_spawn() (the intended analog to my _posix_spawn()) will be easy to implement, if it even needs to go in a separate function at all. It looks from the Python Library documentation for 1.5.2 that the os.spawnv() function is all we need, but it's a bit hard to figure out just what's needed. Windows wizards, please take a look at the 'spawn()' function and see if you can make it work on Windows. As for actually compiling extensions: well, if you can figure out the build_ext command, go ahead and give it a whirl. It's a bit cryptic right now, since there's no documentation and no example setup.py. (I have a working example at home, but it's not available online.) If you feel up to it, though, see if you can read the code and figure out what's going on. I'm just hoping *I'll* be able to figure out what's going on when I get back from the O'Reilly conference next week... ;-) Enjoy -- Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer gward(a)cnri.reston.va.us Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive voice: +1-703-620-8990 Reston, Virginia, USA 20191-5434 fax: +1-703-620-0913

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Two fixes (at last)
by Greg Ward 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

Hi all -- at long last, I have fixed two problems that a couple people noticed a while ago: * I folded in Amos Latteier's NT patches almost verbatim -- just changed an `os.path.sep == "/"' to `os.name == "posix"' and added some comments bitching about the inadequacy of the current library installation model (I think this is Python's fault, but for now Distutils is slavishly aping the situation in Python 1.5.x) * I fixed the problem whereby running "setup.py install" without doing anything else caused a crash (because 'build' hadn't yet been run). Now, the 'install' command automatically runs 'build' before doing anything; to make this bearable, I added a 'have_run' dictionary to the Distribution class to keep track of which commands have been run. So now not only are command classes singletons, but their 'run' method can only be invoked once -- both restrictions enforced by Distribution. The code is checked into CVS, or you can download a snapshot at http://www.python.org/sigs/distutils-sig/distutils-19990607.tar.gz Hope someone (Amos?) can try the new version under NT. Any takers for Mac OS? BTW, all parties involved in the Great "Where Do We Install Stuff?" Debate should take a good, hard look at the 'set_final_options()' method of the Install class in distutils/install.py; this is where all the policy decisions about where to install files are made. Currently it apes the Python 1.5 situation as closely as I could figure it out. Obviously, this is subject to change -- I just don't know to *what* it will change! Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer gward(a)cnri.reston.va.us Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive voice: +1-703-620-8990 Reston, Virginia, USA 20191-5434 fax: +1-703-620-0913

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Package versioning
by Timothy Docker 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

Hi all, I've been aware that the distutils sig has been simmerring away, but until recently it has not been directly relevant to what I do. I like the look of the proposed api, but have one question. Will this support an installed system that has multiple versions of the same package installed simultaneously? If not, then this would seem to be a significant limitation, especially when dependencies between packages are considered. Assuming it does, then how will this be achieved? I am presently managing this with a messy arrangement of symlinks. A package is installed with its version number in it's name, and a separate directory is created for an application with links from the unversioned package name to the versioned one. Then I just set the pythonpath to this directory. A sample of what the directory looks like is shown below. I'm sure there is a better solution that this, and I'm not sure that this would work under windows anyway (does windows have symlinks?). So, has this SIG considered such versioning issues yet? Cheers, Tim -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Docker timd(a)macquarie.com.au Quantative Applications Division Macquarie Bank -------------------------------------------------------------- qad16:qad $ ls -l lib/python/ total 110 drwxr-xr-x 2 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:23 1.1 -r--r----- 1 root mts 45172 Sep 1 1998 cdrmodule_0_7_1.so drwxr-xr-x 2 mts mts 512 Sep 1 1998 chart_1_1 drwxr-xr-x 3 mts mts 512 Sep 1 1998 Fnorb_0_7_1 dr-xr-x--- 3 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:21 Fnorb_0_8 drwxr-xr-x 3 mts mts 1536 Mar 3 12:45 mts_1_1 dr-xr-x--- 7 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:22 OpenGL_1_5_1 dr-xr-x--- 2 mts mts 1024 Nov 11 11:23 PIL_0_3 drwxr-xr-x 3 mts mts 512 Sep 1 1998 Pmw_0_7 dr-xr-x--- 2 mts mts 512 Nov 11 11:21 v3d_1_1 qad16:qad $ ls -l lib/python/1.1 total 30 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 29 Apr 10 10:43 _glumodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_glumodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 30 Apr 10 10:43 _glutmodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_glutmodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 22 Apr 10 10:43 _imaging.so -> ../PIL_0_3/_imaging.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 36 Apr 10 10:43 _opengl_nummodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_opengl_nummodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 27 Apr 10 10:43 _tkinter.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/_tkinter.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 21 Apr 10 10:43 cdrmodule.so -> ../cdrmodule_0_7_1.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 12 Apr 10 10:43 chart -> ../chart_1_1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 12 Apr 10 10:43 Fnorb -> ../Fnorb_0_8 lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 12 Apr 10 10:43 mts -> ../mts_1_1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 15 Apr 10 10:43 OpenGL -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 33 Apr 10 10:43 opengltrmodule.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/opengltrmodule.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 33 Apr 10 10:43 openglutil_num.so -> ../OpenGL_1_5_1/openglutil_num.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 10 Apr 10 10:43 PIL -> ../PIL_0_3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 mts mts 10 Apr 10 10:43 Pmw -> ../Pmw_0_7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 10 Apr 10 10:43 v3d -> ../v3d_1_1

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[Distutils-sig] distutils charter and interscript
by John Skaller 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

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Documentation question
by Mark W. Alexander 06 May '02

06 May '02

Ok, I'm working on docs for bdist_pkgtool and bdist_sdux, but I'm completely TeX ignorant. I took the dist.tex file, cut out the RPM section and edited it for these packages. Now what? How do I test what the file actually produces, and how it fits in with the rest of the distutils docs? Next step, how do I submit the changes? (I assume as a patch to the doc file.) Pointers the whatever FM I'm looking for would be helpful. tia -- Mark W. Alexander slash(a)dotnetslash.net

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RE: [Distutils] bdist_wininst: post-installation changes?
by Moore, Paul 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

From: Thomas Heller [mailto:thomas.heller@ion-tof.com] > Bruce's preamble can be simplyfied to this one: > > @runpython c:\aaa\Python\%0.bat %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 > # start of python code > print "Hello" # or whatever > # EOF - you don't have to supply the 'endofpython' footer from above. The simplest possible version I've found is @python -x %~f0 %* & goto :eof # start of python code import sys print "Hello", ', '.join(sys.argv[1:]) This works on Windows 2000 CMD.EXE. Probably also on NT and XP, but I don't have these to test. It's not likely to work on Windows 9x/ME, as the %~f0 and %* constructs aren't supported there. %* can be replaced by %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 as usual, but %~f0 (the full pathname of the current batch file) isn't in COMMAND.COM to my knowledge... Annoyingly, JP Software's 4NT doesn't correctly support %~f0, failing to include the .bat file extension unless it is typed in on the command line. I've reported this as a bug to JP software. The advantage of this version is that it *doesn't* need you to hard-code the full pathname of the BAT file. An alternative construct is %~dp0MYBATCHFILE.BAT. The %~dp0 construct gives the name of the directory containing the batch file. Again, this isn't 9x/ME compatible, to my knowledge. But it does work on all versions of NT/2000 and also in 4NT, FWIW. Hope this helps, Paul.

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bdist_wininst: post-installation changes?
by Steven Knight 29 Apr '02

29 Apr '02

I don't think this is supported, but I just want to make sure... Is there any way, in the generated Win32 installer, to have it perform some arbitrary post-installation editing? To cover Win9x systems, I'd like to install a .bat file in C:\PythonXX\ using the Bruce Eckel preamble from the Python FAQ: @echo off rem = """ rem run python on this bat file. Needs the full path where rem you keep your python files. The -x causes python to skip rem the first line of the file: python -x c:\aaa\Python\\"%0".bat %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 goto endofpython rem """ # The python program goes here: The problem is that the "%0" expansion needs the full path name to where the .bat file is installed (C:\PythonXX\), and that's not known until the installer runs and consults the registry to find out where Python is located. Is there anything I can have the installer do to accomodate this? A quick glance at the code didn't turn up anything (but it *was* very quick... :-). --SK

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Should MANIFEST.in be automatically included by sdist?
by Terrel Shumway 24 Apr '02

24 Apr '02

When I create a package using MANIFEST.in, there is important information in that file. When I build a sdist, MANIFEST.in is ommitted, meaning that the package cannot reproduce itself. I think that if MANIFEST.in exists, it should automatically be included by sdist. If I add MANIFEST.in to itself, it gets included in all (even built) distributions, which I do not want. Am I missing something? -- Terrel

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How to customize...
by Andy Robinson 23 Apr '02

23 Apr '02

Hello everybody, I'm hoping for some guidance on the best way to extend distutils and on whether it is suitable for problems Reportlab currently face. It seems very good at packing up bits of a python package hierarchy and recreating the same hierarchy elsewhere, but I can't figure out how to do some things. (Well, I can find ways, but figure I might be subverting the design or missing obvious things). The manual chapter on extending distutils is, ahem, short. I'm hoping these will be easy for you all! (1) Cross-wiring the output --------------------------- I want to create a little distribution for a corporate customer which direspects my package hierarchy. Reportlab has a 'reportlab' package for open source code, and an 'rlextra' package for other stuff. We also make a CVS tree for each customer. My CVS tree for the customer has this: hugeco/littleapp/littleapp.py hugeco/littleapp/setup.py <---presumably, see below I want to make a single directory which includes a bunch of files from elsewhere in our tree. I want to add in these into what the customer gets: rlextra/utils/rc4.py rlextra/utils/gloop.py rlextra/utils/cgisupport.py We have often done yucky stuff like checking in a copy of the rlextra files under the customer directory, and are fed up doing it. We can write code so we only have one version in the right place, but the customer inports the local onem and avoid duplications in CVS. Ideally, running sdist would assemble the 4 files above and create a combined output distribution which just dumped all 4 modules. Thus they would get a tar.gz containing littleapp-0.5/littleapp.py littleapp-0.5/rc4.py littleapp-0.5/gloop.py littleapp-0.5/cgisupport.py The manual descrivbes doing this for data files but not for source. Can you pull source from arbitrary directories? I KNOW that ideally I'd give them the rlextra tree or its subset packagized on their path, but we get situations where a self-contained app is really more desrirable; we can't inflict changes in the rlextra tree on other apps at the same time. How do I do this? (2) Where to put setup scripts ----------------------------- This is a minor "best practice" detail. The standard document presumes your setup.py is above your source tree. All my CVS projects live under C:\code. If I want to have setup scripts for project1, project2, project3, obviously I cannot have one setup.py above all 3. Do people normally maintain the setup script within the directory they want to pack up, and do a translation on the directories? or have multiple setup_project1.py, setup_project2.py etc above? (3) Shipping closed source software: ----------------------------------- Sometimes we only want to ship .pyc files. We're also looking at things like pyz archives, maybe with some additions so they can only be opened with a license key for paid-only software, but also just for the convenience. Is there anyone who has thought about extending distutils this way? how should I go about it? writing a new command (zdist??) (4) Verification on site ------------------------ With our own customer apps we include a 'signed source manifest' with checksums of each file in the manifest, and a 'signed target manifest' which does the same for pyc files and other compiled/optimized objects. Then at run time we can have verification functions. This helps because sometimes the customer fails to accurately promote some of a few hundred files onto a web cluster; we want to get back something saying that either the distro is perfect, or various files disagree with the manifest. In fact, I envision a meta-api where you could ask any app to verfy itself, run a test suite or so on. setup.py is the obvious hook. Is this a useful extension to distutils? Is there a good place to put such ideas in? Or would it be easier to roll our own? (5) General pace of activity ---------------------------- I am new to this sig. Is much happening? Is distutils basically seen as a solved problem or is a lot underway? Best Regards, Andy Robinson CEO/Chief Architect, Reportlab inc.

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