Mailman 3 February 2004 - Distutils-SIG

RE: [Distutils] MSVC CRT woes
by Moore, Paul 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

From: Mark Hammond >> 1. Installed copies of both Python 2.3 and 2.4. >> 2. EITHER MSVC 6 and 7 (both versions) OR mingw > Yes, that is true for all practical intent, if your installation > has extension modules. However, for a pure-python distribution, you > need *no* compilers installed. In that case, we still have a problem > - at the moment, the installation is guaranteed to fail for either > Python 2.3 and before, or for 2.4, depending on which CRTL was used > to build wininst.exe. > To clarify, I am talking about only how wininst.exe interacts with > Python, not extension building related issues (even though they are > similar). Ah. I follow. In that case, yes I agree that practicality should beat purity, and whatever works would make sense. My feeling is that reading the file into a string and using the Py...RunString function is the sensible option here. After all (as I posted in python-dev) OLEAUT32.DLL uses MSVCRT.DLL, and works happily with MSVC7-compiled DLLs (at least it had better!!!), so there is at least *some* indication that DLLs can interact with EXEs which use a different CRT (as long as sufficient care is taken). Paul.

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RE: [Distutils] Distutils windows binaries...
by Phil Hornby 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

Thomas, > You can customize distutils to do *anything* you want by subclassing. > The basic functionality, however, assumes you are distributing python > modules, scripts, and extensions. And distutils actually is the easiest > way imo to also *build* the extensions. Generally I build and test my modules individually or do releases through an automated into our build/release management system that is very simple and as such using distutils wouldn't fit in very easily/well. > IIRC, you can also use the borland compiler to build the extensions - > see the output of 'python setup.py build_ext --help-compiler'. Thanks I had just noticed that...but as I am trying to move away from that compiler - and only have it on my machine for legacy reason it's not needed. >> >> I know you can change the bitmap displayed during the install but can you >> change the icon that is displayed for the *.exe that is generated? > > You can change the icon of the > Lib/site-packages/distutils/command/wininst.exe with any tool of your > choice, *before* building the installer. I would like to do this programatically instead of doing it manually. Anyone know of a python tool that can do that...or is that gonna have to be a project of my own? I am also interested to know why you stressed the *before* statement - surely I could change the icon on the produced *.exe? and as such after building the installer? Thanks... -- Phil "Requirements - what are they I just hack something together that does what I think they want" ;)

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by postmaster＠mail.unina.it 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

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RE: [Distutils] PGP keys required? (Re: PEP 243)
by Moore, Paul 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

From: Keith Jackson [mailto:krjackson@lbl.gov] > A single S/MIME email from you or Jack would totally suffice for me for > the short term. That way I could look in the archive, verify the sig, > and know that the hashes are valid. (Assuming you and Jack aren't > really black hats. :) Ironically, that message just came through with an "invalid digital signature" warning. I've no idea what Outlook (yes, I know, so sue me) considers in making this judgement, but I no longer trust anything you say, in case you are not who you say you are :-) On a more serious note, this demonstrates why I don't trust digital signatures much. Unless this really *was* someone else masquerading as Keith, what do I do? I've never seen a genuinely hacked download, to my knowledge, but I *have* seen warnings and errors from invalid signatures. So ignoring signature errors is the correct approach, based on the evidence I have encountered! I'm not trying to argue the case, just to demonstrate how the world looks from the POV of security-naive people like me... Paul.

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Distutils windows binaries...
by Phil Hornby 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Okay, I love what I can do with distutils in windows - i.e. create a binary distribution of a module/package/etc But I have a few questions: If I write a script to generate all the details of the distribution - files list, etc - how do I force the script to make it into a binary distro? Do I modify the arguement list passed to the script to 'fake' that it was called with this? Cos I may well just want to run a script and have that as default behaviour. I have seen that there is the facility to build extension modules into the distro by actually building them from source - is it recommended to do it this way - what about including pre-built extensions? I have tried adding them to the 'data_files' option and it seems to work - although by default they don't end up where I would expect. Has anyone else played with that? I know you can change the bitmap displayed during the install but can you change the icon that is displayed for the *.exe that is generated? Well I think that is enough questions for now... -- Phil "Requirements - what are they I just hack something together that does what I think they want" ;)

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03 Feb '04

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RE: [Distutils] PGP keys required? (Re: PEP 243)
by Moore, Paul 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

From: M.-A. Lemburg [mailto:mal@egenix.com] >> I'm not trying to argue the case, just to demonstrate how the >> world looks from the POV of security-naive people like me... > Perhaps distutils should simply start to add MD5 or SHA hash > sums of the created archives to the meta-data which gets uploaded > to e.g. PyPI. That way, the user can easily see whether a mirror > has the correct packages or not. Better than nothing, I'd say, > and easy to implement even without having to go through all the > PKI stuff :-) That sounds sensible. Everything needed is part of Python, no requirements on the user, some level of check for those that care. I can't see a downside... Paul.

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03 Feb '04

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Re: ***SPAM?*** hello
by tommie＠iae.nl 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

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Virus Alert
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02 Feb '04

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