Mailman 3 February 2018 - Mailman-coders

[ mailman-Patches-657951 ] Generate RSS summary in archives
by SourceForge.net Aug. 19, 2022

Aug. 19, 2022

Patches item #657951, was opened at 2002-12-23 14:17 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=657951&group_i… Category: Pipermail Group: Mailman 2.2 / 3.0 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Submitted By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Generate RSS summary in archives Initial Comment: Here's a first-draft patch. Things that need fixing: * The generated RSS feed needs to be validated. (It passed the W3C's RDF validator, but RSS validators still need to be checked.) * The date should be given in YYYY-MM-DD format, which requires parsing the .fromdate attribute. * How do I get the URL for an archived message? The generated RSS currently just uses the filename, which is wrong. How do I get at the PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL setting? * Getting the most recent N postings is inefficient; the code loops through all of the archived messages and takes the last N of them. We could add .last() and .prev() methods to the Database class, but that's more ambitious for 2.1beta than I like. (Would be nice to get this into 2.1final...) * The list index page should have a LINK element pointing to the RSS file. Please make any comments you have, and I'll rework the patch accordingly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2003-04-18 18:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Andrew, to get the url for the archived message use mlist.GetBaseArchiveURL(), which knows about private vs. public archives, the host name and the list name. From there you should be able to tack on just the part of the path under "archives/private/listname". See Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py for an example. Only other minor comment: NUM_ARTICLES can probably go in Defaults.py.in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Justin Mason (jmason) Date: 2003-03-26 16:49 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=935 big thumbs up from me too. Much better solution than http://taint.org/mmrss/ ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Uche Ogbuji (uche) Date: 2003-03-17 20:09 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=38966 I'd like to add my vote to this item. This is a fantastic idea, Andrew. Thanks. --Uche ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2002-12-23 15:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Updated patch: * Dates are now rendered as ISO-8601 (date only, not the time of the message) * By hard-wiring 2002-December, I got the RSS to validate using Mark Pilgrim's validator. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: captain larry (captainlarry) Date: 2002-12-23 14:36 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=147905 Just voting for support here. This is *great* thanks for the patch and I hope the maintainers include it as soon as it's appropriate :) Adam. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-23 14:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Deferring until post-2.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2002-12-23 14:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Argh; SF choked on the file upload. Attaching the patch again... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=657951&group_i…

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[Bug 1462755] [NEW] qrunner crashes on invalid unicode sequence
by Thijs Kinkhorst Feb. 28, 2022

Feb. 28, 2022

Public bug reported: When a message contains an invalud unicode sequence in its header, qrunner flat out crashes on that: May 17 15:32:20 2015 (981) Uncaught runner exception: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 18: invalid continuation byte May 17 15:32:20 2015 (981) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 239, in process i18ndesc = uheader(mlist, mlist.description, 'List-Id', maxlinelen=998) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 65, in uheader return Header(s, charset, maxlinelen, header_name, continuation_ws) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/email/header.py", line 183, in __init__ self.append(s, charset, errors) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/email/header.py", line 267, in append ustr = unicode(s, incodec, errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 18: invalid continuation byte May 17 15:32:20 2015 (981) SHUNTING: 1431869540.389822+156779307d54473d0eb732994bb67eee95733285 A solution for this specific case is to have Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py pass the erorrs='replace' parameter. I would say that this is actually a bug in python-email, since I think it doesn't make sense to set errors to "strict" rather than something like "replace" when the intention is to parse stuff so free-formed, under-specd and user-controlled as email. Nonetheless, Mailman already sets errors='replace' in some places so it might aswell add it here. ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1462755 Title: qrunner crashes on invalid unicode sequence To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1462755/+subscriptions

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[Bug 965532] [NEW] Need a script to upgrade from MM2 to MM3
by Barry Warsaw Dec. 13, 2021

Dec. 13, 2021

Public bug reported: We need a script, documentation, or other procedure to help people migrate from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3. ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: mailman3 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/965532 Title: Need a script to upgrade from MM2 to MM3 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/965532/+subscriptions

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[Bug 1609516] [NEW] [needs-packaging] GNU Mailman v3
by Kẏra May 12, 2021

May 12, 2021

Public bug reported: Mailman 3 is essentially five projects: Mailman Core Postorius - The Web UI for Mailman Mailman Client - The REST API Client HyperKitty - The Archiver for Mailman Mailman Bundler - Installer for Mailman Suite including all above projects URL: https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: debian Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Tags: needs-packaging ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #799292 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799292 ** Also affects: debian via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799292 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Also affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1609516 Title: [needs-packaging] GNU Mailman v3 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1609516/+subscriptions

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[Bug 544477] [NEW] setting localhost in postfix_lmtp breaks delivery
by Patrick Ben Koetter Sept. 26, 2020

Sept. 26, 2020

Public bug reported: Setting localhost in postfix_lmtp works against Postfix defaults and breaks delivery. Reason: The Postfix lmtp client only uses dns queries by default to search for hostnames. If the DNS server does not provide an answer for "localhost" delivery from the lmtp client to mailman fails. Solution: Provide "127.0.0.1" instead of "localhost". This does not require DNS and is even faster because it saves DNS lookups. Example: hey2(a)mailman.state-of-mind.de lmtp:[localhost.localdomain]:8024 ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: 3.0 mailman -- setting localhost in postfix_lmtp breaks delivery https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/544477 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman.

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[Bug 1731604] [NEW] VERP fails if the recipient address local part is quoted.
by Mark Sapiro April 13, 2020

April 13, 2020

Public bug reported: We have seen (very rarely) cases where a recipient address has a quoted local part such as "jr."@example.org. This results in a VERPed sender address like list-bounces+"jr."=example.org(a)example.com which is syntactically invalid. The VERPed sender should be "list- bounces+jr.=example.org"@example.com in this case. I.e., the entire VERPed sender local part should be quoted, not just the recipient local part. This also requires BounceRunner to recognize this and restore the original local part. ** Affects: mailman Importance: Medium Assignee: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Status: In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1731604 Title: VERP fails if the recipient address local part is quoted. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1731604/+subscriptions

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[Bug 883193] [NEW] Remove the X- prefix from some headers
by Barry Warsaw Jan. 14, 2019

Jan. 14, 2019

Public bug reported: MM3 still uses a lot of X- headers, but some of the X- prefixes can be removed. In general, we can just claim the Mailman- prefix for Mailman specific headers. Candidates include: Mailman-Rule-Hits Mailman-Rule-Misses Mailman-Version Mailman-Approved-At Mailman-LMTP-MailFrom (i.e. X-MailFrom) Mailman-Copy (or remove this header) Mailman-Content-Filter (from X-Content-Filtered-By) Also, fix the outdated comments about add-dup-header in avoid_duplicates.py and verp.py. Probably also get rid of X-List-Administrivia (and possibly reduced_list_headers). These seem unnecessary now. ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: mailman3 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/883193 Title: Remove the X- prefix from some headers To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/883193/+subscriptions

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[Bug 1094696] [NEW] Event notifications on postings
by George Chatzisofroniou Dec. 22, 2018

Dec. 22, 2018

Public bug reported: It looks like there is no way for a MM3 plugin to be signaled for a new posting. It would be great if core could provide a notification to the plugins that have subscribed to this event when a new post occurs. This notification should carry some interesting information, like the number of recipients and the message size. This request is also essential for the MM3-Metrics module (https://launchpad.net/mm3-metrics). ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: events mailman3 metrics modules notification plugins post -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1094696 Title: Event notifications on postings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1094696/+subscriptions

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[Bug 1414352] [NEW] Improve code coverage by adding tests
by Terri Dec. 22, 2018

Dec. 22, 2018

Public bug reported: Mailman Core and Postorius have sets of tests, but could use more extensive test coverage. This bug is meant to be a repeatable bug suitable for new contributors (e.g. prospective Google Summer of Code Students). In short: find a piece of Postorius or Mailman Core that isn't yet tested and write a test (or set of tests) for it. Contributors wishing to work on Mailman Core should look at START.rst and DATABASE.rst for more information about setting up tests. For Postorius, Florian is working on vcrpy test integration, so new tests can use that format. Links to documentation and examples much appreciated to update this bug! ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: postorius Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: beginner-friendly easy mailman3 repeatable test ** Tags added: easy mailman3 ** Also affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Description changed: - Postorius has a set of tests, but it could use more extensive coverage. - This bug is meant to be a repeatable bug suitable for new contributors - (e.g. prospective Google Summer of Code Students). In short: find a - piece of postorius that isn't yet tested and write a test (or set of - tests) for it. + Mailman Core and Postorius have sets of tests, but could use more + extensive test coverage. This bug is meant to be a repeatable bug + suitable for new contributors (e.g. prospective Google Summer of Code + Students). In short: find a piece of Postorius or Mailman Core that + isn't yet tested and write a test (or set of tests) for it. - Florian is working on vcrpy test integration, so new tests can use that - format. + Contributors wishing to work on Mailman Core should look at START.rst + and DATABASE.rst for more information about setting up tests. + + For Postorius, Florian is working on vcrpy test integration, so new + tests can use that format. + + Links to documentation and examples much appreciated to update this bug! ** Tags added: repeatable -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1414352 Title: Improve code coverage by adding tests To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1414352/+subscriptions

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[Bug 1696066] [NEW] Postfix module - Mailman wrapper - Couldn't write data/aliases.db and data/virtual-mailman.db files
by Laurent Declercq June 15, 2018

June 15, 2018

Public bug reported: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group (what I've done), or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using bin/newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases* but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are created from scratch. Thank you. ** Affects: mailman Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: mailman (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: mailman (Debian) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these file get created from scratch and which I describe below for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be meet: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group need write access to those files at any time Currently, the following behavior has been observed. - When creating a new list on command line, using newlist as follow: '# - newlist -u virtualhost foobar', the files will be created as follow + When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as + follow: + + # newlist -u virtualhost foobar + + the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch - using bin/genaliases + using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db - Note that in both case, files were not present. Thus, they were created + Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these file get created from scratch and which I describe below for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be meet: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them - I. Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file + I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 - II. Mailman group need write access to those files at any time + II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time Currently, the following behavior has been observed. When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: - # newlist -u virtualhost foobar + # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these file get created from scratch and which I describe below for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be meet: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time - Currently, the following behavior has been observed. + The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these file get created from scratch and which I describe below for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be meet: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) - command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions. + command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least + when the files are create from scratch. + + Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when - these file get created from scratch and which I describe below for the - Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the - Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. + these files are created from scratch. + + Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table + only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman + map. In order, the following conditions have to be meet: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are create from scratch. Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. - In order, the following conditions have to be meet: + In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are create from scratch. Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. - The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because - the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). + The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through + Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error + because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) + the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set - correct permissions on resulting *db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) + correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are create from scratch. Thank you. ** Also affects: mailman (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: mailman (Debian) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least - when the files are create from scratch. + when the files are created from scratch. Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: - When creating a new list on command line, using newlist script as + When creating a new list on command line, using bin/newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are created from scratch. Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using bin/newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" - # chmod 0660 data/aliases + # chmod 0660 data/aliases.db but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are created from scratch. Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman group or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using bin/newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" - # chmod 0660 data/aliases.db + # chmod 0660 data/aliases* but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are created from scratch. Thank you. ** Description changed: Dear project leader At least in version 2.1.23, there is a bug regarding permissions set for Mailman data/aliases table and Mailman data/virtual-mailman map when these files are created from scratch. Here I describe the current behavior for the Mailman data/aliases table only but the problem is identical for the Mailman data/virtual-mailman map. In order, the following conditions have to be met: - Postfix need read access to the aliases.db file - Mailman like to be owner of those files and the Mailman group needs write access to them I. Postfix needs a read access to the aliases.db file We can either set permissions as 0660 and add postfix user to mailman - group or set the permissions as 0664 + group (what I've done), or set the permissions as 0664 II. Mailman group needs a write access to those files at any time The following behavior has been observed: When creating a new list on command line, using bin/newlist script as follow: # newlist -u virtualhost foobar the files will be created as follow: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db The same thing has been observed when recreating the file from scratch using bin/genaliases: -rw-rw---- 1 root list aliases -rw-r----- 1 root list aliases.db Note that in both cases, files were not present. Thus, they were created from scratch. As you can see here, the Mailman data/aliases table is created with the expected group and permissions but the data/aliases.db file is only writable by owner. From the POSTALIAS(1) command point of view, that is the expected behavior: The file is created with the same group and other read permissions as their source file. The problem here is that with those permissions, creating a list through Mailman interface later on will result in a permissions denied error because the Mailman group, through the wrapper, cannot write (update) the aliases.db file (no write permissions). That is really a problem. Of course, one can just pre-create the files as follow: # cd /var/lib/mailman # sg list -c "touch data/aliases && postalias data/aliases" # chmod 0660 data/aliases* but that seem tedious. What if at some point (for any reason), the files get recreated from scratch? So, from my point of view, the MTA/Postfix.py module should always set correct permissions on resulting *.db file, after running POSTALIAS(1) command to be sure that Mailman group has write permissions, at least when the files are created from scratch. Thank you. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is subscribed to GNU Mailman. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1696066 Title: Postfix module - Mailman wrapper - Couldn't write data/aliases.db and data/virtual-mailman.db files To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1696066/+subscriptions

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