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[ mailman-Patches-657951 ] Generate RSS summary in archives
by SourceForge.net Aug. 19, 2022

Aug. 19, 2022

Patches item #657951, was opened at 2002-12-23 14:17 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bwarsaw You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=657951&group_i… Category: Pipermail Group: Mailman 2.2 / 3.0 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Submitted By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Generate RSS summary in archives Initial Comment: Here's a first-draft patch. Things that need fixing: * The generated RSS feed needs to be validated. (It passed the W3C's RDF validator, but RSS validators still need to be checked.) * The date should be given in YYYY-MM-DD format, which requires parsing the .fromdate attribute. * How do I get the URL for an archived message? The generated RSS currently just uses the filename, which is wrong. How do I get at the PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL setting? * Getting the most recent N postings is inefficient; the code loops through all of the archived messages and takes the last N of them. We could add .last() and .prev() methods to the Database class, but that's more ambitious for 2.1beta than I like. (Would be nice to get this into 2.1final...) * The list index page should have a LINK element pointing to the RSS file. Please make any comments you have, and I'll rework the patch accordingly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2003-04-18 18:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Andrew, to get the url for the archived message use mlist.GetBaseArchiveURL(), which knows about private vs. public archives, the host name and the list name. From there you should be able to tack on just the part of the path under "archives/private/listname". See Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py for an example. Only other minor comment: NUM_ARTICLES can probably go in Defaults.py.in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Justin Mason (jmason) Date: 2003-03-26 16:49 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=935 big thumbs up from me too. Much better solution than http://taint.org/mmrss/ ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Uche Ogbuji (uche) Date: 2003-03-17 20:09 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=38966 I'd like to add my vote to this item. This is a fantastic idea, Andrew. Thanks. --Uche ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2002-12-23 15:42 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Updated patch: * Dates are now rendered as ISO-8601 (date only, not the time of the message) * By hard-wiring 2002-December, I got the RSS to validate using Mark Pilgrim's validator. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: captain larry (captainlarry) Date: 2002-12-23 14:36 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=147905 Just voting for support here. This is *great* thanks for the patch and I hope the maintainers include it as soon as it's appropriate :) Adam. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-12-23 14:27 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Deferring until post-2.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) Date: 2002-12-23 14:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Argh; SF choked on the file upload. Attaching the patch again... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=657951&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1246004 ] 2.1.6 bin/arch bombs out on unicodeerror
by SourceForge.net Feb. 28, 2007

Feb. 28, 2007

Bugs item #1246004, was opened at 2005-07-27 15:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by schoinobates You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1246004&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Auke Kok (sofar) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: 2.1.6 bin/arch bombs out on unicodeerror Initial Comment: Running bin/arch on my i18n- development list I got this beauty: Updating HTML for article 2390 Updating HTML for article 2391 Pickling archive state into /var/mailman/archives/private/xfce-i18n/pipermail.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/arch", line 200, in ? main() File "bin/arch", line 188, in main archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, start, end) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 573, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 625, in add_article article.parentID = parentID = self.get_parent_info(arch, article) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 657, in get_parent_info article.subject) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 311, in getOldestArticle self.__openIndices(archive) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 251, in __openIndices t = DumbBTree(os.path.join(arcdir, archive + '-' + i)) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 65, in __init__ self.load() File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 179, in load self.__sort(dirty=1) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 73, in __sort self.sorted.sort() UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Schoinobates Volans (schoinobates) Date: 2007-02-28 22:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=41822 Originator: NO The script needs to actually upgrade all archive volumes, not only the current one, because if a post to a ML comes with a date in the past, it will be added to the old volume. New script: #! /usr/bin/python # # Copyright (C) 2007 Lionel Elie Mamane <lmamane(a)debian.org> # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. """Convert a list's archive databases to unicode where appropriate This script is intended to be run as a bin/withlist script, i.e. % bin/withlist -l -r unicodify_archives <mylist> """ import paths import time from Mailman.i18n import _ from Mailman import mm_cfg def unicodify_string(s): if isinstance(s,unicode): return s elif isinstance(s,str): try: return s.decode() except UnicodeDecodeError: pass try: return s.decode('utf-8') except UnicodeDecodeError: pass return s.decode('windows-1252', 'replace') def unicodify_fst(t): l = list(t[1:]) l.insert(0, unicodify_string(t[0])) return tuple(l) def unicodify_archives(mlist): # Only act if we are using the internal archiver if mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER: return else: from Mailman.Archiver import HyperArch h = HyperArch.HyperArchive(mlist) for archive in h.archives: for hdr in ('subject', 'author'): h.database.mapKeys(unicodify_fst, archive, hdr) h.close() if __name__ == '__main__': print _(__doc__.replace('%', '%%')) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Schoinobates Volans (schoinobates) Date: 2007-02-27 23:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=41822 Originator: NO In Debian, we fixed that problem with the following patch and running the following withlist script on all mailing list on upgrade. Let me note in passing that the code for clearIndex looks very suspicious: it takes an "index" argument but completely ignores it. It should probably clear its argument and not be hardcoded to clear the thread index. --- Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py 2005-08-27 03:40:17.000000000 +0200 +++ Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py 2007-02-27 20:33:41.103527160 +0100 @@ -324,15 +343,22 @@ def clearIndex(self, archive, index): self.__openIndices(archive) if hasattr(self.threadIndex, 'clear'): self.threadIndex.clear() return finished=0 try: key, msgid=self.threadIndex.first() except KeyError: finished=1 while not finished: del self.threadIndex[key] try: key, msgid=self.threadIndex.next() except KeyError: finished=1 + + def mapKeys(self, f, archive, index): + self.__openIndices(archive) + index = getattr(self, index + 'Index') + d = index.dict + index.dict = dict(zip(map(f, d.keys()), d.values())) + index.__dirty = 1 #! /usr/bin/python # # Copyright (C) 2007 Lionel Elie Mamane <lmamane(a)debian.org> # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. """Convert a list's archive databases to unicode where appropriate This script is intended to be run as a bin/withlist script, i.e. % bin/withlist -l -r unicodify_archives <mylist> """ import paths import time from Mailman.i18n import _ from Mailman import mm_cfg def unicodify_string(s): if isinstance(s,unicode): return s elif isinstance(s,str): try: return s.decode() except UnicodeDecodeError: pass try: return s.decode('utf-8') except UnicodeDecodeError: pass return s.decode('windows-1252', 'replace') def unicodify_fst(t): l = list(t[1:]) l.insert(0, unicodify_string(t[0])) return tuple(l) def unicodify_archives(mlist): # Only act if we are using the internal archiver if mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER: return else: from Mailman.Archiver import HyperArch h = HyperArch.HyperArchive(mlist) currentVolume = h.dateToVolName(time.time()) if currentVolume in h.archives: for hdr in ('subject', 'author'): h.database.mapKeys(unicodify_fst, currentVolume, hdr) h.close() if __name__ == '__main__': print _(__doc__.replace('%', '%%')) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-12-15 19:10 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO See the threads at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2006-February/018587.ht… and http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-February/049345.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eugene Crosser (crosser) Date: 2006-12-15 11:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=124141 Originator: NO I can see the same thing (line numbers are different) with 2.1.9 version. Can it be that no one else got bitten by it yet? How to fix it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1246004&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1246004 ] 2.1.6 bin/arch bombs out on unicodeerror
by SourceForge.net Feb. 27, 2007

Feb. 27, 2007

Bugs item #1246004, was opened at 2005-07-27 15:19 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by schoinobates You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1246004&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Auke Kok (sofar) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: 2.1.6 bin/arch bombs out on unicodeerror Initial Comment: Running bin/arch on my i18n- development list I got this beauty: Updating HTML for article 2390 Updating HTML for article 2391 Pickling archive state into /var/mailman/archives/private/xfce-i18n/pipermail.pck Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/arch", line 200, in ? main() File "bin/arch", line 188, in main archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, start, end) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 573, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 625, in add_article article.parentID = parentID = self.get_parent_info(arch, article) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 657, in get_parent_info article.subject) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 311, in getOldestArticle self.__openIndices(archive) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 251, in __openIndices t = DumbBTree(os.path.join(arcdir, archive + '-' + i)) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 65, in __init__ self.load() File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 179, in load self.__sort(dirty=1) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 73, in __sort self.sorted.sort() UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Schoinobates Volans (schoinobates) Date: 2007-02-27 23:45 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=41822 Originator: NO In Debian, we fixed that problem with the following patch and running the following withlist script on all mailing list on upgrade. Let me note in passing that the code for clearIndex looks very suspicious: it takes an "index" argument but completely ignores it. It should probably clear its argument and not be hardcoded to clear the thread index. --- Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py 2005-08-27 03:40:17.000000000 +0200 +++ Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py 2007-02-27 20:33:41.103527160 +0100 @@ -324,15 +343,22 @@ def clearIndex(self, archive, index): self.__openIndices(archive) if hasattr(self.threadIndex, 'clear'): self.threadIndex.clear() return finished=0 try: key, msgid=self.threadIndex.first() except KeyError: finished=1 while not finished: del self.threadIndex[key] try: key, msgid=self.threadIndex.next() except KeyError: finished=1 + + def mapKeys(self, f, archive, index): + self.__openIndices(archive) + index = getattr(self, index + 'Index') + d = index.dict + index.dict = dict(zip(map(f, d.keys()), d.values())) + index.__dirty = 1 #! /usr/bin/python # # Copyright (C) 2007 Lionel Elie Mamane <lmamane(a)debian.org> # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA. """Convert a list's archive databases to unicode where appropriate This script is intended to be run as a bin/withlist script, i.e. % bin/withlist -l -r unicodify_archives <mylist> """ import paths import time from Mailman.i18n import _ from Mailman import mm_cfg def unicodify_string(s): if isinstance(s,unicode): return s elif isinstance(s,str): try: return s.decode() except UnicodeDecodeError: pass try: return s.decode('utf-8') except UnicodeDecodeError: pass return s.decode('windows-1252', 'replace') def unicodify_fst(t): l = list(t[1:]) l.insert(0, unicodify_string(t[0])) return tuple(l) def unicodify_archives(mlist): # Only act if we are using the internal archiver if mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER: return else: from Mailman.Archiver import HyperArch h = HyperArch.HyperArchive(mlist) currentVolume = h.dateToVolName(time.time()) if currentVolume in h.archives: for hdr in ('subject', 'author'): h.database.mapKeys(unicodify_fst, currentVolume, hdr) h.close() if __name__ == '__main__': print _(__doc__.replace('%', '%%')) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-12-15 19:10 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO See the threads at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2006-February/018587.ht… and http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-February/049345.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Eugene Crosser (crosser) Date: 2006-12-15 11:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=124141 Originator: NO I can see the same thing (line numbers are different) with 2.1.9 version. Can it be that no one else got bitten by it yet? How to fix it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1246004&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1495122 ] Mailman strips format=flowed from Content-Type header
by SourceForge.net Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

Bugs item #1495122, was opened at 2006-05-25 12:24 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1495122&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Bart Jacobs (radiantskies) >Assigned to: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Summary: Mailman strips format=flowed from Content-Type header Initial Comment: It seems that Mailman strips the format=flowed argument from the Content-Type: text/plain header when delivering incoming e-mails to subscribers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-26 09:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I replaced the patch again. This time, the Scrubber.py patch is functionally identical to 217616: flowed.patch.txt, but I have added more comments to the Scrubber patch specifically related to why it won't work for the archive or the plain format digest. The Decorate.py patch has been updated to remove any trailing spaces from lines of msg_header and msg_footer so they won't be inadvertently flowed. I have the feeling that the biggest issue for most occurs in Decorate.py in adding msg_header and/or msg_footer, and this is fixed. File Added: flowed.patch.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-24 22:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I have replaced the flowed.patch.txt file attached. The previous scrubber patch didn't work. This one has been more thoroughly tested and does work at least for the test cases tried. There is an additional fix in this scrubber patch which has to do with getting the appropriate character set for the part separator. See the thread beginning at <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-November/054515.html>. File Added: flowed.patch.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-19 17:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I have attached a patch (flowed.patch.txt) that applies to Mailman 2.1.9 and 2.1.8. Line numbers may need adjusting for earlier versions. This is a preliminary patch for testing and shouldn't be considered official at this point. Feedback will be appreciated. File Added: flowed.patch.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: P T Withington (ptwithy) Date: 2006-10-13 13:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=615189 Thanks, that's great. For now, I am very happy that I can just turn off my footer and get the right behavior (as a work-around). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-10-13 11:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Regarding the previous comment. I don't disagee with you, and my 2006-06-13 comment wasn't meant to imply that I wasn't interested in fixing this, just that there might be more to it than is apparent at first glance. I do have it on my 'to do' list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: P T Withington (ptwithy) Date: 2006-10-13 10:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=615189 Man this bug drives me NUTS! Surely it is more important to maintain the content of the message that to quibble about the format on header/footer. Any halfway intelligent mail client will wrap long URLs, expecting them to be reflowed by the recipient, but since mailman strips out the format and delsp from the Content-type, the recipient is left in the lurch and sees the URL as multiple lines. In format-flowed, only lines that end in <space><linefeed> are re-flowed. If the header/footer lines end in <linefeed> they will not be reflowed, so I don't see the need to have a different format for them? What am I missing? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-06-13 09:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 I think you have found the cause. Scrubber also does the same thing when flattening the message, but now we have a difficult decision. If we want to 'fix' Decorate, we now are faced with a situation where we may be adding a 'format=fixed' header and/or footer to a 'format=flowed' message body. This potential incompatability may require us to 'wrap' the message and add the header/footer as separate parts in this case. This will undoubtedly raise additional complaints. In the case of Scrubber, this may lead us to scrub the actual message body part - not a good thing. I may be over-reacting here. It may turn out that it is OK to render the header/footer/scrubber messages as 'format=flowed'. Although I can contrive a footer for example (by putting trailing spaces on intermediate lines) that will be munged by rendering as 'format=flowed', this may not be a problem in practice, and Decorate could always be made to strip the spaces. There are also potentially issues with stripping of leading spaces because of the assumption that they are 'stuffed'. I don't know how big an issue this is in practice. Note, if we do preserve 'format=' we also need to preserve 'delsp='. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Bart Jacobs (radiantskies) Date: 2006-06-12 23:54 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=924185 I've browsed the mailman source code a bit and I found some suspicious code in /trunk/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py. If the list admin specifies a header or footer to be added to outgoing messages, then the content-type header is zapped and then regenerated from just the charset info, i.e. the format=flowed parameter is lost. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1495122&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1495122 ] Mailman strips format=flowed from Content-Type header
by SourceForge.net Feb. 25, 2007

Feb. 25, 2007

Bugs item #1495122, was opened at 2006-05-25 12:24 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1495122&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: mail delivery Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Bart Jacobs (radiantskies) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Mailman strips format=flowed from Content-Type header Initial Comment: It seems that Mailman strips the format=flowed argument from the Content-Type: text/plain header when delivering incoming e-mails to subscribers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-24 22:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I have replaced the flowed.patch.txt file attached. The previous scrubber patch didn't work. This one has been more thoroughly tested and does work at least for the test cases tried. There is an additional fix in this scrubber patch which has to do with getting the appropriate character set for the part separator. See the thread beginning at <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-November/054515.html>. File Added: flowed.patch.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-19 17:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I have attached a patch (flowed.patch.txt) that applies to Mailman 2.1.9 and 2.1.8. Line numbers may need adjusting for earlier versions. This is a preliminary patch for testing and shouldn't be considered official at this point. Feedback will be appreciated. File Added: flowed.patch.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: P T Withington (ptwithy) Date: 2006-10-13 13:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=615189 Thanks, that's great. For now, I am very happy that I can just turn off my footer and get the right behavior (as a work-around). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-10-13 11:23 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Regarding the previous comment. I don't disagee with you, and my 2006-06-13 comment wasn't meant to imply that I wasn't interested in fixing this, just that there might be more to it than is apparent at first glance. I do have it on my 'to do' list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: P T Withington (ptwithy) Date: 2006-10-13 10:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=615189 Man this bug drives me NUTS! Surely it is more important to maintain the content of the message that to quibble about the format on header/footer. Any halfway intelligent mail client will wrap long URLs, expecting them to be reflowed by the recipient, but since mailman strips out the format and delsp from the Content-type, the recipient is left in the lurch and sees the URL as multiple lines. In format-flowed, only lines that end in <space><linefeed> are re-flowed. If the header/footer lines end in <linefeed> they will not be reflowed, so I don't see the need to have a different format for them? What am I missing? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2006-06-13 09:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 I think you have found the cause. Scrubber also does the same thing when flattening the message, but now we have a difficult decision. If we want to 'fix' Decorate, we now are faced with a situation where we may be adding a 'format=fixed' header and/or footer to a 'format=flowed' message body. This potential incompatability may require us to 'wrap' the message and add the header/footer as separate parts in this case. This will undoubtedly raise additional complaints. In the case of Scrubber, this may lead us to scrub the actual message body part - not a good thing. I may be over-reacting here. It may turn out that it is OK to render the header/footer/scrubber messages as 'format=flowed'. Although I can contrive a footer for example (by putting trailing spaces on intermediate lines) that will be munged by rendering as 'format=flowed', this may not be a problem in practice, and Decorate could always be made to strip the spaces. There are also potentially issues with stripping of leading spaces because of the assumption that they are 'stuffed'. I don't know how big an issue this is in practice. Note, if we do preserve 'format=' we also need to preserve 'delsp='. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Bart Jacobs (radiantskies) Date: 2006-06-12 23:54 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=924185 I've browsed the mailman source code a bit and I found some suspicious code in /trunk/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py. If the list admin specifies a header or footer to be added to outgoing messages, then the content-type header is zapped and then regenerated from just the charset info, i.e. the format=flowed parameter is lost. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1495122&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1667570 ] RegExp not working in 2.1.5
by SourceForge.net Feb. 24, 2007

Feb. 24, 2007

Bugs item #1667570, was opened at 2007-02-23 16:07 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: security/privacy Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Closed Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael O (qchrontech) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: RegExp not working in 2.1.5 Initial Comment: Under "accept_these_nonmembers (privacy): List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted." I have the following RegExp's and I still continue to receive notices as the admin to approve the email from addresses listed below. I tested the RegExp to make sure that the e-mail addresses are successfully matched and they are. I believe in 2.1.2 this was working fine with the same RegExp. List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from ahutchi(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from jsimmon(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval I saw no previous bug reports on this and am unsure if this is fixed in 2.1.9 so I submitted it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 19:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO I'm not sure you understand what require_explicit_destination and acceptable_aliases do. If require explicit destination is Yes, some address in the To: or Cc: headers of the post must be either the list posting address or match an address or re in acceptable aliases. If you put ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ in acceptable aliases, it will only have an effect if a matching address (e.g. jdoe(a)server.qchron.net) is in the To: or Cc: of a post to the list. If any address that can deliver to your list is in the qchron.com or qchron.net domain, then yes, this will allow them all to be accepted as well as a whole bunch more IF the address that got to the list was in a To: or Cc: header. But, I suspect the problem in this case was that no list address was in a To: or Cc: of the post. This has nothing to do with who the post is From: or whether or not it is from a list member. If a member or an acceptable non-member sends a post To: msapiro(a)users.sourceforge.net with a Bcc: to your list, your list is going to hold it for implicit destination. The question you have to answer for yourself is do you want to accept without moderator action, posts which aren't explicitly addressed in To: or Cc: to your list or to some other address that gets to your list. If you do, then set require_explicit_destination to No. If you don't, then set require_explicit_destination to Yes and make sure that any 'other' addresses that will deliver to your list are in acceptable_aliases (this should be very few addresses). In the later case posters will be required to explicitly name the list or an acceptable alias in To: or Cc: or the post will be held. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 19:14 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ posted in the acceptable_aliases. Will this allow all aliases to the mail list to pass? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 18:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO Re: your followup. You have several choices, but adding ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to acceptable aliases isn't one of them. The post was held because it wasn't explicitly addressed To: (or Cc:) the list. I.e. the canonical list posting address, say listname(a)example.com, was not in To: or Cc:. Maybe it was a Bcc: to the list. Maybe the post was addressed to listname(a)mail.example.com. If the former, and you can't convince to poster to explicitly address the list, then you have to turn off require_explicit_destination. If the latter, you can add listname(a)mail.example.com to acceptable aliases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 18:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO So the message is held for implicit destination which means two things: 1) It passed your accept_these_nonmembers test. 2) It was held because Privacy Options...->Recipient filters->require_explicit_destination is Yes and the list posting address or another address in the acceptable_aliases list was not found in any To: or Cc: header of the post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 18:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ok so i looked this up. Does this mean I should turn off require_explicit_destination OR should i add ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to the acceptable_aliases? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 18:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES Vetta log Feb 13 12:57:25 2007 (13626) Editors post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov held, message-id=<9634B41B9ED66B44AAC9674F95755AAB035518AE(a)smex03.comptroller.nycnet>: Message has implicit destination ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 17:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO It works for me in current mailman, and the only changes to Mailman/Handlers/Moderate since 2.1.3 have to do with allowing a list specified nonmember_rejection_notice. The only other change since 2.1.2 was to accept posts from the news->mail gateway. Are you sure these posts aren't being held for some other reason. What does Mailman's vette log give as the hold reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1667570 ] RegExp not working in 2.1.5
by SourceForge.net Feb. 24, 2007

Feb. 24, 2007

Bugs item #1667570, was opened at 2007-02-23 19:07 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by qchrontech You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: security/privacy Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Closed Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael O (qchrontech) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: RegExp not working in 2.1.5 Initial Comment: Under "accept_these_nonmembers (privacy): List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted." I have the following RegExp's and I still continue to receive notices as the admin to approve the email from addresses listed below. I tested the RegExp to make sure that the e-mail addresses are successfully matched and they are. I believe in 2.1.2 this was working fine with the same RegExp. List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from ahutchi(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from jsimmon(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval I saw no previous bug reports on this and am unsure if this is fixed in 2.1.9 so I submitted it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 22:14 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ posted in the acceptable_aliases. Will this allow all aliases to the mail list to pass? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 21:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO Re: your followup. You have several choices, but adding ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to acceptable aliases isn't one of them. The post was held because it wasn't explicitly addressed To: (or Cc:) the list. I.e. the canonical list posting address, say listname(a)example.com, was not in To: or Cc:. Maybe it was a Bcc: to the list. Maybe the post was addressed to listname(a)mail.example.com. If the former, and you can't convince to poster to explicitly address the list, then you have to turn off require_explicit_destination. If the latter, you can add listname(a)mail.example.com to acceptable aliases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 21:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO So the message is held for implicit destination which means two things: 1) It passed your accept_these_nonmembers test. 2) It was held because Privacy Options...->Recipient filters->require_explicit_destination is Yes and the list posting address or another address in the acceptable_aliases list was not found in any To: or Cc: header of the post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 21:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ok so i looked this up. Does this mean I should turn off require_explicit_destination OR should i add ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to the acceptable_aliases? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 21:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES Vetta log Feb 13 12:57:25 2007 (13626) Editors post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov held, message-id=<9634B41B9ED66B44AAC9674F95755AAB035518AE(a)smex03.comptroller.nycnet>: Message has implicit destination ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 20:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO It works for me in current mailman, and the only changes to Mailman/Handlers/Moderate since 2.1.3 have to do with allowing a list specified nonmember_rejection_notice. The only other change since 2.1.2 was to accept posts from the news->mail gateway. Are you sure these posts aren't being held for some other reason. What does Mailman's vette log give as the hold reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1667570 ] RegExp not working in 2.1.5
by SourceForge.net Feb. 24, 2007

Feb. 24, 2007

Bugs item #1667570, was opened at 2007-02-23 16:07 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: security/privacy Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Closed Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael O (qchrontech) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: RegExp not working in 2.1.5 Initial Comment: Under "accept_these_nonmembers (privacy): List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted." I have the following RegExp's and I still continue to receive notices as the admin to approve the email from addresses listed below. I tested the RegExp to make sure that the e-mail addresses are successfully matched and they are. I believe in 2.1.2 this was working fine with the same RegExp. List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from ahutchi(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from jsimmon(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval I saw no previous bug reports on this and am unsure if this is fixed in 2.1.9 so I submitted it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 18:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO Re: your followup. You have several choices, but adding ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to acceptable aliases isn't one of them. The post was held because it wasn't explicitly addressed To: (or Cc:) the list. I.e. the canonical list posting address, say listname(a)example.com, was not in To: or Cc:. Maybe it was a Bcc: to the list. Maybe the post was addressed to listname(a)mail.example.com. If the former, and you can't convince to poster to explicitly address the list, then you have to turn off require_explicit_destination. If the latter, you can add listname(a)mail.example.com to acceptable aliases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 18:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO So the message is held for implicit destination which means two things: 1) It passed your accept_these_nonmembers test. 2) It was held because Privacy Options...->Recipient filters->require_explicit_destination is Yes and the list posting address or another address in the acceptable_aliases list was not found in any To: or Cc: header of the post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 18:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ok so i looked this up. Does this mean I should turn off require_explicit_destination OR should i add ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to the acceptable_aliases? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 18:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES Vetta log Feb 13 12:57:25 2007 (13626) Editors post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov held, message-id=<9634B41B9ED66B44AAC9674F95755AAB035518AE(a)smex03.comptroller.nycnet>: Message has implicit destination ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 17:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO It works for me in current mailman, and the only changes to Mailman/Handlers/Moderate since 2.1.3 have to do with allowing a list specified nonmember_rejection_notice. The only other change since 2.1.2 was to accept posts from the news->mail gateway. Are you sure these posts aren't being held for some other reason. What does Mailman's vette log give as the hold reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1667570 ] RegExp not working in 2.1.5
by SourceForge.net Feb. 24, 2007

Feb. 24, 2007

Bugs item #1667570, was opened at 2007-02-23 16:07 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by msapiro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: security/privacy Group: 2.1 (stable) >Status: Closed >Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael O (qchrontech) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: RegExp not working in 2.1.5 Initial Comment: Under "accept_these_nonmembers (privacy): List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted." I have the following RegExp's and I still continue to receive notices as the admin to approve the email from addresses listed below. I tested the RegExp to make sure that the e-mail addresses are successfully matched and they are. I believe in 2.1.2 this was working fine with the same RegExp. List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from ahutchi(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from jsimmon(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval I saw no previous bug reports on this and am unsure if this is fixed in 2.1.9 so I submitted it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 18:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO So the message is held for implicit destination which means two things: 1) It passed your accept_these_nonmembers test. 2) It was held because Privacy Options...->Recipient filters->require_explicit_destination is Yes and the list posting address or another address in the acceptable_aliases list was not found in any To: or Cc: header of the post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 18:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ok so i looked this up. Does this mean I should turn off require_explicit_destination OR should i add ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to the acceptable_aliases? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 18:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES Vetta log Feb 13 12:57:25 2007 (13626) Editors post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov held, message-id=<9634B41B9ED66B44AAC9674F95755AAB035518AE(a)smex03.comptroller.nycnet>: Message has implicit destination ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 17:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO It works for me in current mailman, and the only changes to Mailman/Handlers/Moderate since 2.1.3 have to do with allowing a list specified nonmember_rejection_notice. The only other change since 2.1.2 was to accept posts from the news->mail gateway. Are you sure these posts aren't being held for some other reason. What does Mailman's vette log give as the hold reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_…

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[ mailman-Bugs-1667570 ] RegExp not working in 2.1.5
by SourceForge.net Feb. 24, 2007

Feb. 24, 2007

Bugs item #1667570, was opened at 2007-02-23 19:07 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by qchrontech You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: security/privacy Group: 2.1 (stable) Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Michael O (qchrontech) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: RegExp not working in 2.1.5 Initial Comment: Under "accept_these_nonmembers (privacy): List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted." I have the following RegExp's and I still continue to receive notices as the admin to approve the email from addresses listed below. I tested the RegExp to make sure that the e-mail addresses are successfully matched and they are. I believe in 2.1.2 this was working fine with the same RegExp. List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?qchron\.(?=com$|net$).*$ ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from ahutchi(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval post from jsimmon(a)comptroller.nyc.gov requires approval I saw no previous bug reports on this and am unsure if this is fixed in 2.1.9 so I submitted it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 21:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES ok so i looked this up. Does this mean I should turn off require_explicit_destination OR should i add ^[^@]+@(.*\.)?nyc\.gov$ to the acceptable_aliases? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Michael O (qchrontech) Date: 2007-02-23 21:30 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1631912 Originator: YES Vetta log Feb 13 12:57:25 2007 (13626) Editors post from emeeks(a)comptroller.nyc.gov held, message-id=<9634B41B9ED66B44AAC9674F95755AAB035518AE(a)smex03.comptroller.nycnet>: Message has implicit destination ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Mark Sapiro (msapiro) Date: 2007-02-23 20:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1123998 Originator: NO It works for me in current mailman, and the only changes to Mailman/Handlers/Moderate since 2.1.3 have to do with allowing a list specified nonmember_rejection_notice. The only other change since 2.1.2 was to accept posts from the news->mail gateway. Are you sure these posts aren't being held for some other reason. What does Mailman's vette log give as the hold reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1667570&group_…

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