Mailman 3 August 2005 - Python-announce-list

ANNOUNCE: pydf 0.9.8.3
by garabik-news-2005-05＠kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

After a long time, a new version of pydf is available. pydf displays the amount of used and available space on your filesystems, just like df, but in colours. The output format is completely customizable. Pydf was written and works on Linux, but should work also on other modern UNIX systems. URL: http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/pydf/ License: Public Domain Notable changes since the last version: - tries to detect screen size and modify output accordingly - rewritten to be compliant and to use features of modern python versions - supports filesystem sizes up to yottabytes (untested :-)) - better remote filesystems detection -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan Garabík http://kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!

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PyAr - Python Argentina 10th Meeting, Thursday, August 4th
by Batista, Facundo 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

The Argentine Python User Group, PyAr, will have its tenth meeting this Thursday, August 4th at 7:00pm. Agenda ------ Despite our agenda tends to be rather open, this time we would like to cover these topics: - Discuss present and future of the messaging framework Gauchito Gil (http://www.python.com.ar/Wiki/GauchitoGil) - See if we move to other meeting point. - Discuss website function and see if we go for another content manager. Where ----- We're meeting at Hip Hop Bar, Hipólito Yirigoyen 640, Ciudad de Buenos Aires, starting at 19hs. We will be in the back room, so please ask the barman for us. About PyAr ---------- For more information on PyAr see http://pyar.decode.com.ar (in Spanish), or join our mailing list (Also in Spanish. For instructions see http://pyar.decode.com.ar/Members/ltorre/listademail) We meet on the second Thursday of every month. . Facundo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ADVERTENCIA. La información contenida en este mensaje y cualquier archivo anexo al mismo, son para uso exclusivo del destinatario y pueden contener información confidencial o propietaria, cuya divulgación es sancionada por la ley. Si Ud. No es uno de los destinatarios consignados o la persona responsable de hacer llegar este mensaje a los destinatarios consignados, no está autorizado a divulgar, copiar, distribuir o retener información (o parte de ella) contenida en este mensaje. Por favor notifíquenos respondiendo al remitente, borre el mensaje original y borre las copias (impresas o grabadas en cualquier medio magnético) que pueda haber realizado del mismo. Todas las opiniones contenidas en este mail son propias del autor del mensaje y no necesariamente coinciden con las de Telefónica Comunicaciones Personales S.A. o alguna empresa asociada. Los mensajes electrónicos pueden ser alterados, motivo por el cual Telefónica Comunicaciones Personales S.A. no aceptará ninguna obligación cualquiera sea el resultante de este mensaje. Muchas Gracias.

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ANN: AOPython 1.0.1
by Daniel Miller 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

What is it? ~~~ AOPython is an AOP module for Python. Changes since the last release ~~~ - API CHANGE: Changed argument order of weave function: weave(aspects, object, includes...) seems more logical than weave(object, aspects, includes...) since Aspect now has a weave method with that argument order. - Removed "dangerous method name" check from Aspect.wrap. Rare cases may exist in which those methods may need to be wrapped. Not to mention it's more consistent with the Zen of Python. - Switched from using types.MethodType to __get__(instance, class) to create methods from functions. The tests seem to run a tiny bit faster, so it may improve performance (probably not). - Minor code cleanup. - Minor improvements to documentation. - Reorganized the aopython module (moved internal functions to the bottom, etc.). - Added __version__ and __all__ variables to aopython. - Renamed unwrapDict to _unwrapDict. Download/leave comments/ask questions ~~~ http://www.openpolitics.com/pieces/archives/001702.html Comments are appreciated. <p><a href="http://www.openpolitics.com/pieces/archives/001702.html">AOPython 1.0.1</a> - Aspect Oriented Python (02-Aug-05)</p> -- ~ Daniel Miller millerdev(a)gmail.com

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Fredericksburg, VA ZPUG August 10: .Net, functional testing
by Gary Poster 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Please join us August 10, 7:30-9:00 PM, for the third meeting of the Fredericksburg, VA Zope and Python User Group ("ZPUG"). This meeting has four features of note. - Brian Lloyd, the author of Python for .Net (http://www.zope.org/ Members/Brian/PythonNet/) and the Zope Corporation VP of Engineering, will discuss his .Net platform and give a brief .Net overview. - Benji York, Zope Corp Senior Software Engineer, will discuss current functional testing practices on Zope 3, including using Selenium on Zope 3, using demo storage for functional testing, and using his own compelling new functional test package. Note that the majority of this discussion has strong applicability to automated testing of all web frameworks and applications. - We will serve the now-usual geek-chic fruit, cheese, and soft drinks. - Fred Drake, Zope Corp Senior Software Engineer, Python core developer, Python documentation maintainer and editor, and co-author of the O'Reilly book Python & XML will give two of his books (http:// www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596001282/) to new attendees. Upon pressure, he admitted that he would be willing to autograph them if bribed with fruit, cheese, and soft drinks. Note that we are eager to have non-Zope-Corporation employees give presentations. :-) We had three new attendees last meeting, for a total of ten. Please come and bring friends! More information http://www.zope.org/Members/poster/ fxbgzpug_announce_3 and below. Hope to see you there! Gary General ZPUG information ------------------------------------ When: second Wednesday of every month, 7:30-9:00. Where: Zope Corporation offices. 513 Prince Edward Street; Fredericksburg, VA 22408 (tinyurl for map is http://tinyurl.com/duoab). Parking: Zope Corporation parking lot; entrance on Prince Edward Street. Topics: As desired (and offered) by participants, within the constraints of having to do with Python. Contact: Gary Poster (gary(a)zope.com)

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Zope 3.1.0c1 released!
by Stephan Richter 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 candidate 1. Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2. It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for production use, which is why we decided to drop the 'X' for experimental from the name. We will also continue to work on making the transition between Zope 2 and Zope 3 as smooth as possible. As a first step, Zope 2.8 includes Zope 3 features in the form of Five. Please test this release carefully and send us any feedback! In particular, we have tried very hard to keep backward-compatibility with the previous X3 3.0 release, so please let us know if the new release breaks your code. Downloads http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/ Installation instructions for both Windows and Un*x/Linux are now available in the top level 'README.txt' file of the distribution. The binary installer is recommended for Windows. Zope 3.1 requires Python 2.3.5 or 2.4.1 to run. You must also have zlib installed on your system. Important Changes Since 3.1.0b1 All of the outstanding issues in the to-do list were completed, which included many bugfixes and the removal of all outstanding XXX comments. There was also a lot of work done in fixing many places that were not translatable. Most Important Changes Since 3.0 - New Pluggable Authentication Utility (PAU), which is similar in philosophy to the Zope 2 PAS. The following features are available in the in the basic PAU facility: + Credentials Plugins: Basic HTTP Auth, Session + Authenticator Plugins: Principal Folder, Group Folder For a detailed description of the pluggable authentication utility, see 'zope/app/authentication/README.txt'. - Major simplifications to the component architecture: + Removal of the concept of a service. All outstanding services were converted to utilities: Error Reporting, FSSync, Authentication. + Site Managers are global and local now; adapters and utilties are directly registered with the site manager. Now global and local component registration and lookup behaves very similar. + Local registrations can now only have two states: active and inactive. This simplified the code so much, that 'zope.app.utility', 'zope.app.registration' and 'zope.app.site' were all merged into 'zope.app.component'. + Implemented menus as utilities. The API also supports sub-menus now. + Implemented views as adapters. Skins and layers are now simply interfaces that the request provides. - Added an integer-id facility for assigning integer identifiers to objects. - Added basic catalog and index frameworks. - Added "sources", which are like vocabularies except that they support very large collections of values that must be searched, rather than browsed. - Created a new granting UI that allows advanced searching of principal sources. - Implemented a generic user preferences systsem that was designed to be easily used in TALES expressions and via Python code. Preferences can be edited via 'http://localhost:8080/++preferences++/'. A demo of the preferences can be found at:: http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/demo/skinpref/ - ZCML now supports conditional directives using the 'zcml:condition' attribute. The condition is of the form "verb argument". Two verbs, 'have feature' and 'installed module' are currently implemented. Features can be declared via the 'meta:provides' directive. - Improved API doctool: Code Browser now shows interfaces, text files and ZCML files; the new Book Module compiles all available doctext files into an organized book; the new Type Module lets you browser all interface types and discover interfaces that provide types; views are shown in the interface details screen; views and adapters are categorized into specific, extended and generic; user preferences allow you to customize certain views; 3rd party modules can now be added to the Code Browser. - Improved I18n-based number and datetime formatting by integrating 'pytz' for timezone support, implementing all missing format characters, and reinterpreting the ICU documentation to correctly parse patterns. - Added '++debug++' traversal adapter that allows you to turn on debugging flags in 'request.debug'. Currently the following flags are defined: source, tal, errors. - Improved logout support. - Added the HTTP request recorder, which lets you inspect raw HTTP requests and responses. It can be used to create functional doctests without requiring third-party tools such as TCPWatch. - Developed a generic 'browser:form' directive. It is pretty much the same as the 'browser:editform' directive, except that the data is not stored on some context or adapted context but sent as a dictionary to special method (by default). For a complete list of changes see the 'CHANGES.txt' file. Resources - "Zope 3 Development Web Site":http://dev.zope.org/Zope3 - "Zope 3 Dev Mailing List":http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-dev - "Zope 3 Users Mailing List":http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users - IRC Channel: #zope3-dev at irc.freenode.net Acknowledgments Thanks goes to everyone that contributed. Release date: June 18, 2005 The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 beta 1. Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2. It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for production use, which is why we decided to drop the 'X' for experimental from the name. We will also continue to work on making the transition between Zope 2 and Zope 3 as smooth as possible. As a first step, Zope 2.8 includes Zope 3 features in the form of Five. Please test this release carefully and send us any feedback! In particular, we have tried very hard to keep backward-compatibility with the previous X3 3.0 release, so please let us know if the new release breaks your code. Downloads http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/ Installation instructions for both Windows and Un*x/Linux are now available in the top level 'README.txt' file of the distribution. The binary installer is recommended for Windows. Zope 3.1 requires Python 2.3.5 or 2.4.1 to run. You must also have zlib installed on your system. Most Important Changes Since 3.0 - New Pluggable Authentication Utility (PAU), which is similar in philosophy to the Zope 2 PAS. The following features are available in the in the basic PAU facility: + Credentials Plugins: Basic HTTP Auth, Session + Authenticator Plugins: Principal Folder, Group Folder For a detailed description of the pluggable authentication utility, see 'zope/app/authentication/README.txt'. - Major simplifications to the component architecture: + Removal of the concept of a service. All outstanding services were converted to utilities: Error Reporting, FSSync, Authentication. + Site Managers are global and local now; adapters and utilties are directly registered with the site manager. Now global and local component registration and lookup behaves very similar. + Local registrations can now only have two states: active and inactive. This simplified the code so much, that 'zope.app.utility', 'zope.app.registration' and 'zope.app.site' were all merged into 'zope.app.component'. + Implemented menus as utilities. The API also supports sub-menus now. + Implemented views as adapters. Skins and layers are now simply interfaces that the request provides. - Added an integer-id facility for assigning integer identifiers to objects. - Added basic catalog and index frameworks. - Added "sources", which are like vocabularies except that they support very large collections of values that must be searched, rather than browsed. - Created a new granting UI that allows advanced searching of principal sources. - Implemented a generic user preferences systsem that was designed to be easily used in TALES expressions and via Python code. Preferences can be edited via 'http://localhost:8080/++preferences++/'. A demo of the preferences can be found at:: http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/demo/skinpref/ - ZCML now supports conditional directives using the 'zcml:condition' attribute. The condition is of the form "verb argument". Two verbs, 'have feature' and 'installed module' are currently implemented. Features can be declared via the 'meta:provides' directive. - Improved API doctool: Code Browser now shows interfaces, text files and ZCML files; the new Book Module compiles all available doctext files into an organized book; the new Type Module lets you browser all interface types and discover interfaces that provide types; views are shown in the interface details screen; views and adapters are categorized into specific, extended and generic; user preferences allow you to customize certain views; 3rd party modules can now be added to the Code Browser. - Improved I18n-based number and datetime formatting by integrating 'pytz' for timezone support, implementing all missing format characters, and reinterpreting the ICU documentation to correctly parse patterns. - Added '++debug++' traversal adapter that allows you to turn on debugging flags in 'request.debug'. Currently the following flags are defined: source, tal, errors. - Improved logout support. - Added the HTTP request recorder, which lets you inspect raw HTTP requests and responses. It can be used to create functional doctests without requiring third-party tools such as TCPWatch. - Developed a generic 'browser:form' directive. It is pretty much the same as the 'browser:editform' directive, except that the data is not stored on some context or adapted context but sent as a dictionary to special method (by default). For a complete list of changes see the 'CHANGES.txt' file. Resources - "Zope 3 Development Web Site":http://dev.zope.org/Zope3 - "Zope 3 Dev Mailing List":http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-dev - "Zope 3 Users Mailing List":http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users - IRC Channel: #zope3-dev at irc.freenode.net Acknowledgments Thanks goes to everyone that contributed. Jim Fulton, Fred Drake, Philipp von Weitershausen, Stephan Richter, Gustavo Niemeyer, Daniel Nouri, Volker Bachschneider, Roger Ineichen, Shane Hathaway, Bjorn Tillenius, Garrett Smith, Marius Gedminas, Stuart Bishop, Dominik Huber, Dmitry Vasiliev, Gary Poster, Brian Lloyd, Julien Anguenot, Albertas Agejevas, Benji York Enjoy! The Zope 3 Development Team

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dnspython 1.3.4
by Bob Halley 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

dnspython 1.3.4 has been released. New since 1.3.3: The source address and port may now be specified when calling dns.query.{udp,tcp,xfr}. The resolver now does exponential backoff each time it runs through all of the nameservers. Rcodes which indicate a nameserver is likely to be a "permanent failure" for a query cause the nameserver to be removed from the mix for that query. This release fixes all known bugs. See the ChangeLog file for more detailed information on changes since the prior release. For the latest in releases, documentation, and information, visit the dnspython home page at http://www.dnspython.org/

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ANN: matplotlib 0.83.2
by John Hunter 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

matplotlib is a 2D plotting package for python. This is a summary of recent developments in matplotlib since 0.80. For detailed notes, see http://matplotlib.sf.net/whats_new.html, http://matplotlib.sf.net/CHANGELOG and http://matplotlib.sf.net/API_CHANGES == Whats New == matplotlib wiki: this was just launched a few days ago and only has two entries to date, but we hope this will grow into a useful site with tutorials, howtos, installation notes, recipes, etc. Please contribute! Thanks to scipy.org and Enthought for hosting. http://www.scipy.org/wikis/topical_software/MatplotlibCookbook CocoaAgg: New CocoaAgg backend for native GUI on OSX, 10.3 and 10.4 compliant, contributed by Charles Moad. TeX support : Now you can (optionally) use TeX to handle all of the text elements in your figure with the rc param text.usetex in the antigrain and postscript backends; see http://www.scipy.org/wikis/topical_software/UsingTex. Thanks to Darren Dale for hard work on the TeX support. Reorganized config files: Made HOME/.matplotlib the new config dir where the matplotlibrc file, the ttf.cache, and the tex.cache live. Your .matplotlibrc file, if you have one, should be renamed to .matplotlib/matplotlibrc. Masked arrays: Support for masked arrays in line plots, pcolor and contours. Thanks Eric Firing and Jeffrey Whitaker. New image resize options interpolation options. See help(imshow) for details, particularly the interpolation, filternorm and filterrad kwargs. New values for the interp kwarg are: 'nearest', 'bilinear', 'bicubic', 'spline16', 'spline36', 'hanning', 'hamming', 'hermite', 'kaiser', 'quadric', 'catrom', 'gaussian', 'bessel', 'mitchell', 'sinc', 'lanczos', 'blackman' Byte images: Much faster imaeg loading for MxNx4 or MxNx3 UInt8 images, which bypasses the memory and CPU intensive integer/floating point conversions. Thanks Nicolas Girard. Fast markers on win32: The marker cache optimization is finally available for win32, after an agg bug was found and fixed (thanks Maxim!). Line marker plots should be considerably faster now on win32. Qt in ipython/pylab: You can now use qt in ipython pylab mode. Thanks Fernando Perez and the Orsay team! Agg wrapper proper: Started work on a proper agg wrapper to expose more general agg functionality in mpl. See examples/agg_test.py. Lots of wrapping remains to be done. Subplot configuration: There is a new toolbar button on GTK*, WX* and TkAgg to launch the subplot configuration tool. GUI neutral widgets: Matplotlib now has cross-GUI widgets (buttons, check buttons, radio buttons and sliders). See examples/widgets/*.py and http://matplotlib.sf.net/screenshots.html#slider_demo. This makes it easier to create interactive figures that run across backends. Full screen mode in GTK*: Use 'f' to toggle full screen mode in the GTK backends. Thanks Steve Chaplin. Downloads available from http://matplotlib.sf.net

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ANN: HarvestMan 1.4.5 beta 1
by Anand 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

HarvestMan 1.4.5 beta 1 follows right at the heels of HarvestMan 1.4.5 alpha 2 which was released on July 21 2005. The new version adds a lot of improvements on the command line options. There is a wget like option which allows the user to just download files without trying to crawl the website. The entire command line is rewritten for ease of use and clarity. Support for server-side dynamic web page extensions '.shtm', '.aspx', '.cfm','.cfml','.cms' were added. Apart from there there are a few minor bug fixes. The harvestman web site http://harvestman.freezope.org is not reachable since the hosting provider, freezope seems to be down since yesterday. However you can download the package and see the Changelogs at http://developer.berlios.de . Package: http://download.berlios.de/harvestman/HarvestMan-1.4.5-b1.tar.bz2 . Release information & Changelog: http://developer.berlios.de/project/shownotes.php?release_id=6732 . The release announcement is also available at freshmeat. http://freshmeat.net/releases/203127/ Thanks -Anand

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Short term project
by Michael Seeley 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

I have a client in Fort Worth, TX that needs a Python programmer for a short project. This could be a telecommuting position. Please email me at mseeley(a)msxi.com if interested.

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ANN: Kamaelia 0.2.0 has been released!
by Michael Sparks 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Kamaelia 0.2.0 has been released! What is it? =========== Kamaelia is a collection of Axon components designed for network protocol experimentation in a single threaded, select based environment. Axon components are python generators are augmented by inbox and outbox queues (lists) for communication in a communicating sequential processes (CSP) like fashion. The architecture is specifically designed to try and simplify the process of designing and experimenting with new network protocols in real environments. More background on the motivations behind Kamaelia can be found here: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Challenges/ The focus of this release adds in support for introspection, pygame based interfaces, 4 new examples using these, visualisation tools, as well as syntactic sugar to make building Kamaelia systems simpler. (Specifically Graphline and pipeline systems. This build upon the existing base allowing TCP and Multicast based client/server systems. Other additions and changes include updated examples, variety of bugfixes in existing components (some pre-emptively discovered by introspection), and a variety of utility components. It is now also possible to write components using threading as the concurrency model rather than generators - allowing integration with thread/blocking only based systems. The system is known to work under Linux, Mac OS X, Windows and a subset has been tested on Series 60 mobiles. General feedback is welcome either directly, mailing lists or via the project weblog which is here: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/blog/blog.cgi What's new in version 0.2.0 ? ============================= Lots! Full release notes can be found here: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Kamaelia-0.2.0-ReleaseNotes.html Editted highlights... Debian Packages! Many thanks are due to Gintautas Miliauskas, Programmers of Vilnius, for assistance in building Debian packages. (The current packages are based on his, and any errors are likely to be mine, not his) These have been tested successfully on Ubuntu 5.04. 4 new examples have been added showing of various new subsystem: * Example 5 : This creates a simple streaming system, and looks inside to see what components are running/active, and passes the resulting information an Axon Visualiser. * Example 6 : This is a simple/generic topology visualisation server. Accepts the following commands over the network ADD NODE id label auto - ADD LINK id id DEL NODE id DEL ALL As this stands this is pretty useful, but that's pretty much everything it does like this. * Example 7 : This shows how the visualisation subsystem can be extended to work in different ways. What this does by default when run is randomly create new nodes and new linkages quite quickly, allowing you to see how the system works. * Example 8 : Sample slideshow/presentation tool. Unlike traditional slideshow/presentation tools, you can modify this to run arbitrary components. An example of how this can work is provided - allowing stepping through some graph visualisations along with the presentation. A Tools directoy has been added with the following tools: * Axon Shell. (Requires IPython) Implements a simple command line shell which allows experimentation with Axon systems - the shell runs a scheduler as a background thread. For a tutorial of use, see: * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/AxonShell.html * Axon Visualiser. Implements a simple tool for looking inside (quite literally) running Axon/Kamaelia systems. This allows a very different style of debugging and can be extremely useful. Tutorial on its way! Graphlines and Pipelines These are probably the most useful additions to Kamaelia since 0.1.2. They are essentially syntactic sugar for building and working with systems of components, but make building interesting systems rapidly out of pre-existing components fun and easy. The pipelines follow the same sort of model as the Unix pipeline. Graphlines are something new, and like pipelines and all linkages may take any data along them. Please take a look at the release notes for a graphline example. A couple of simple pipelines looks like this: pipeline( ReadFileAdaptor(file_to_stream, readmode="bitrate", bitrate=400000, chunkrate=50), blockise(), # Ensure chunks small enough for multicasting! Multicast_transceiver("0.0.0.0", 0, "224.168.2.9", 1600), ).activate() pipeline( Multicast_transceiver("0.0.0.0", 1600, "224.168.2.9", 0), detuple(1), VorbisDecode(), AOAudioPlaybackAdaptor(), ).run() A selection of other subsystems have been added - targeted at visualisation of Kamaelia (and other graph structured) systems using pygame. The layout mechanism is a simple physics engine. Key packages of note added: Kamaelia.UI, Kamaelia.UI.Pygame, Kamaelia.Physics, Kamaelia.Visualisation.Axon, Kamaelia.Visualisation.PhysicsGraph Requirements ============ * Python 2.3 or higher recommended, though please do report any bugs with 2.2. * Axon (1.1.1 recommended) * vorbissimple (if you want to use the vorbis decode component/examples) (Both Axon and vorbissimple are separate parts of the Kamaelia project, and available at the same download location - see below) Platforms ========= Kamaelia has been used successfully under both Linux, Windows and Mac OS X (panther). A subset of Kamaelia has been successfully tested on Series 60 Nokia mobiles when used with the Axon SERIES 60 branch. Where can I get it? =================== Web pages are here: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Docs/ http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/ (includes info on mailing lists) ViewCVS access is available here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/kamaelia/ Weblog * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/blog/blog.cgi Licensing ========= Kamaelia is released under the Mozilla tri-license scheme (MPL1.1/GPL2.0/LGPL2.1). See http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Licensing.html Best Regards, Michael. -- Michael.Sparks(a)rd.bbc.co.uk, http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/ British Broadcasting Corporation, Research and Development Kingswood Warren, Surrey KT20 6NP This message (and any attachments) may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated.

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