Mailman 3 July 2014 - Twisted

[Twisted-Python] Buildbot downtime
by Tom Prince March 3, 2022

March 3, 2022

I am plannig to upgrade twisted's buildbot in the near future. In preperation for that, I am going to take down the production buildbot on Tuesday, June 26, around 1600 UTC[1]. During that time, the result of any builds done will be lost. Thus, I'd ask that people avoid committing to trunk during that time. I will send a reminder before I take down the buildbot both here, and on #twisted and #twisted-dev. Tom [1] http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120626&p1=80&p2=22…

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[Twisted-Python] Twisted Python 0.7.0 Prerelease Testing
by Glyph Lefkowitz Aug. 5, 2021

Aug. 5, 2021

hi there, folks: I'd really like to release 0.7.0 but I would like it to be at least a little bit tested before I do so. Could those of you with CVS trees check everything out and see if it performs as advertised? Deeper bugs than that will have to wait for the next release, but I'd at least like to know if it works for someone other than me. Thanks. ______ __ __ _____ _ _ | ____ | \_/ |_____] |_____| |_____| |_____ | | | | @ t w i s t e d m a t r i x . c o m http://www.twistedmatrix.com/~glyph/

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[Twisted-Python] Better usage of Twisted on multi core processor
by Sumanth Puram March 13, 2015

March 13, 2015

Hi all, I have a twisted TCP server to listens to client, processes requests, do mysql database operations if needed (using adbapi Connection pool) and return the result. Before deploying this in production, I want to know right way to configure the server. Since twisted is single threaded, how can I leverage multiple cores of my production machine (which has 6 cores and 16 GB RAM) ? One approach that I thought of was to start multiple instances of twisted server on different ports. This would help in using the other cores as well. What do you guys suggest ? Thanks -Sumanth

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[Twisted-Python] Tubes!
by exarkun＠twistedmatrix.com Dec. 12, 2014

Dec. 12, 2014

Hello all, Some of you may have heard rumors of some work in progress on a replacement for Twisted's IConsumer/IProducer interfaces. Tubes have been largely Glyph's effort (though a lot of people have contributed in one way or another). And a large effort it's been. Development is proceeding in a Twisted branch and comes to over three thousand lines of additions so far. Given the large size of the implementation and the long time that this effort has been underway (I remember the Twisted meetup at the Rackspace offices that *I* attended when I was visiting SF... a year and a half ago... at which point tubes wasn't exactly a brand new project) I'd like to re-raise the idea that the best next step for the project is to see some distribution in its *current* state. Specifically, I think it would be beneficial to set up a tubes project on Github under the Twisted organization and try for a release in the very near future. I think this has several advantages over the status quo: 1) As an independent project, tubes will attract more attention than it presently gets as a relatively unknown ticket & branch of Twisted. 2) As a separate Python package, the logistics of actually using tubes are simpler (just consider how you might declare a dependency on a branch of Twisted - keeping in mind you may want to use tubes in a project that already depends on some version of Twisted). It may not make sense to say that it is the same quality as Twisted proper right off the bat (on the other hand, it may well - I suspect tubes in its current form actually is a lot higher quality than large sections of Twisted) but that doesn't mean people (not to mention the tubes project) can't benefit from being able to experiment with it. 3) Decoupling tubes from Twisted frees tubes from certain of Twisted's policies which are more challenging to follow for the kind of non- trivial, brand new code base that tubes is. Technically we could just say that these policies don't apply to a tubes package *in* Twisted but this kind of subtle distinction is often lost on users (ie application developers). a) Twisted's compatibility policy need not apply. It could either be sped up or abandoned more thoroughly. I'm generally a fan of being backwards compatible even when you have few users because it actually makes development easier, but loosening the policy to say things might break if it's just really inconvenient to keep them working (whereas Twisted goes to the inconvenience to keep them working) seems reasonable. b) tubes can undergo a faster release cycle to benefit more from user feedback. 4) At this point, a normal review of the tubes branch is going to be a problem. We do not have good tools or mechanisms for dealing with branches this large. The code in the current tubes branch can just become master of a new project. Development going forward from this point should continue to follow the feature-branch, small-changes, pre- commit-peer-review process. But those 3k lines are written already. Short of an extremely expensive effort to break the work up into smaller, self-contained pieces there's simply never going to be a *good* review in the typical style. Additionally, it may turn out that tubes can remain independent indefinitely. Someday perhaps Twisted would come to depend on it to allow the various protocols and applications implemented in Twisted to benefit from the superior abstractions it provides. Or maybe once it has undergone a few iterations it will make sense to bring it back to Twisted. I don't think this needs to be decided now. There are downsides, of course. All of the boring maintenance involved with having a separate project - setting up CI, actually doing the releases, etc. Perhaps we could find some volunteers to help out with these tasks, though, in exchange for getting some great code out there? I'm curious what the folks out there who develop applications using Twisted would find to be the easiest path forward. I'm also curious to hear what Glyph thinks about all this. ;) Jean-Paul

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[Twisted-Python] Twisted Trac
by Alex Gaynor Aug. 26, 2014

Aug. 26, 2014

Hi all, A short while ago Twisted's trac installation was changed to reject new tickets from anyone except a special white listed group. As of yesterday I have reverted this change, (and turned the spam filter back on). If you experience any issues trying to post, or notice and spam, please feel free to reach out to me. Alex

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[Twisted-Python] Is there pb documentation somewhere?
by Daniel Sank Aug. 20, 2014

Aug. 20, 2014

I've been trying to address ticket 7274 https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/7274 To do this, I am trying to understand the PB protocol. While I found a spec for banana in twisted-daniel/docs/core/specifications/banana.rst, I have not found anything similar for pb. I've been piecing it together by writing little test scripts, but it is slow going. In particular, it is very difficult to understand the meaning of verbs like "cook" and "preserve" and nouns like "persistent store" without some global picture of what's going on. 1. Is there some kind of narrative documentation on how pb works under the hood? 2. Is there a specification for the pb dialect of banana? 3. Is there anyone else out there interested enough in pb to want to work with me to figure things out and produce documentation if there isn't any currently? Sincerely, Daniel Sank

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[Twisted-Python] TerminalSession instance has no attribute 'windowChanged'
by Maxim Lacrima Aug. 1, 2014

Aug. 1, 2014

Hello! When size of terminal window of ssh client is changed, then twisted ssh server throws an exception: exceptions.AttributeError: TerminalSession instance has no attribute 'windowChanged' `manhole_ssh.TerminalSession` doesn't implement this method, but according to ISession interface it should. Is this a bug? I use insults to create some curses-like ui and I need widgets to be redrawn when the size of window is changed. -- Regards, Maxim

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[Twisted-Python] inlineCallbacks and current exceptions: leaky abstraction or bug?
by Laurens Van Houtven July 29, 2014

July 29, 2014

Honored twistedeers, Consider the following (blocking) decorator, which runs a function in a transaction: def _with_transaction(f): def decorated(self, *args, **kwargs): conn = self.engine.connect() txn = conn.begin() try: result = f(self, conn, *args, **kwargs) except: txn.rollback() raise else: txn.commit() return return decorated Where I to translate this logic verbatim to @inlineCallbacks, I get: def _with_transaction(f): @inlineCallbacks def decorated(self, *args, **kwargs): conn = yield self.engine.connect() txn = yield conn.begin() try: result = yield f(self, conn, *args, **kwargs) except: yield txn.rollback() raise else: yield txn.commit() returnValue(result) return decorated However, there’s a bug here! In the except clause: there’s an (implicit) current exception, to be re-raised by the bare raise statement. Unfortunately, when doing yield txn.rollback(), that conveniently eats said exception. Of course, there’s a fairly simple workaround involving catching BaseException and capturing the exception instance explicitly. I’m wondering if this is just a leaky abstraction, or if I should report it as a bug in @inlineCallbacks? cheers lvh

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[Twisted-Python] Process pools and logging
by Phil Mayers July 29, 2014

July 29, 2014

Before I re-invent the wheel, is there a twisted library that will let me: 1. Fire up child worker processes 2. That log to a logObserver coming out in the parent 3. Manage the whole lot as a .tac file Note I *don't* need deferToProcess or similar in this situation. I just need to fire up N processes but have them managed by and logging "to" a single parent controlled by twistd. (FWIW, they're stateless workers that pull from a work queue).

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