Mailman 3 March 2000 - Python-Dev

Re: [Python-checkins] CVS: python/dist/src/Misc ACKS,1.51,1.52
by Fredrik Lundh March 31, 2000

March 31, 2000

> Tracy Tims > + Christian Tismer > + Christian Tismer > R Lindsay Todd two christians? </F>

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Roundup et al.
by Ka-Ping Yee March 31, 2000

March 31, 2000

Hi -- there was some talk on this list earlier about nosy lists, managing patches, and such things, so i just wanted to mention, for anybody interested, that i threw together Roundup very quickly for you to try out. http://www.lfw.org/python/ There's a tar file there -- it's very messy code, and i apologize (it was hastily hacked out of the running prototype implementation), but it should be workable enough to play with. There's a test installation to play with at http://www.lfw.org/ping/roundup/roundup.cgi Dummy user:password pairs are test:test, spam:spam, eggs:eggs. A fancier design, still in the last stages of coming together (which will be my submission to the Software Carpentry contest) is up at http://crit.org/http://www.lfw.org/ping/sctrack.html and i welcome your thoughts and comments on that if you have the spare time (ha!) and generous inclination to contribute them. Thank you and apologies for the interruption. -- ?!ng "To be human is to continually change. Your desire to remain as you are is what ultimately limits you." -- The Puppet Master, Ghost in the Shell

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RE: [Python-checkins] CVS: python/dist/src/PC python_nt.rc,1.8,1.9
by Mark Hammond March 30, 2000

March 30, 2000

This is the version number as displayed by Windows Explorer in the "properties" dialog. Mark. > Modified Files: > python_nt.rc > Log Message: > Seems there was a version string here that still looked > like 1.5.2. > > > Index: python_nt.rc > ========================================================== > ========= > RCS file: /projects/cvsroot/python/dist/src/PC/python_nt.rc,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > retrieving revision 1.9 > diff -C2 -r1.8 -r1.9 > *** python_nt.rc 2000/03/29 01:50:50 1.8 > --- python_nt.rc 2000/03/30 22:59:09 1.9 > *************** > *** 29,34 **** > > VS_VERSION_INFO VERSIONINFO > ! FILEVERSION 1,5,2,3 > ! PRODUCTVERSION 1,5,2,3 > FILEFLAGSMASK 0x3fL > #ifdef _DEBUG > --- 29,34 ---- > > VS_VERSION_INFO VERSIONINFO > ! FILEVERSION 1,6,0,0 > ! PRODUCTVERSION 1,6,0,0 > FILEFLAGSMASK 0x3fL > #ifdef _DEBUG > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-checkins mailing list > Python-checkins(a)python.org > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-checkins >

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socketmodule with SSL enabled
by Andy Dustman March 30, 2000

March 30, 2000

I had to make the following one-line change to socketmodule.c so that it would link properly with openssl-0.9.4. In studying the openssl include files, I found: #define SSLeay_add_ssl_algorithms() SSL_library_init() SSL_library_init() seems to be the "correct" call nowadays. I don't know why this isn't being picked up. I also don't know how well the module works, other than it imports, but I sure would like to try it with Zope/ZServer/Medusa... -- andy dustman | programmer/analyst | comstar.net, inc. telephone: 770.485.6025 / 706.549.7689 | icq: 32922760 | pgp: 0xc72f3f1d "Therefore, sweet knights, if you may doubt your strength or courage, come no further, for death awaits you all, with nasty, big, pointy teeth!" Index: socketmodule.c =================================================================== RCS file: /projects/cvsroot/python/dist/src/Modules/socketmodule.c,v retrieving revision 1.98 diff -c -r1.98 socketmodule.c *** socketmodule.c 2000/03/24 20:56:56 1.98 --- socketmodule.c 2000/03/30 00:49:09 *************** *** 2384,2390 **** return; #ifdef USE_SSL SSL_load_error_strings(); ! SSLeay_add_ssl_algorithms(); SSLErrorObject = PyErr_NewException("socket.sslerror", NULL, NULL); if (SSLErrorObject == NULL) return; --- 2384,2390 ---- return; #ifdef USE_SSL SSL_load_error_strings(); ! SSL_library_init(); SSLErrorObject = PyErr_NewException("socket.sslerror", NULL, NULL); if (SSLErrorObject == NULL) return;

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Unicode compile
by Christopher Petrilli March 30, 2000

March 30, 2000

I don't know how much memory other people have in their machiens, but in this machine (128Mb), I get the following trying to compile a CVS checkout of Python: gcc -g -O2 -I./../Include -I.. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c ./unicodedatabase.c ./unicodedatabase.c:53482: virtual memory exhausted I hope that this is a temporary thing, or we ship the database some other manner, but I would argue that you should be able to compile Python on a machine with 32Mb of RAM at MOST.... for an idea of how much VM this machine has, i have 256Mb of SWAP on top of it. Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli | petrilli(a)amber.org

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Metaclasses, customizing attribute access for classes
by Thomas Heller March 30, 2000

March 30, 2000

Dear Python-developers, Recently I played with metaclasses from within python, also with Jim Fulton's ExtensionClass. I even tried to write my own metaclass in a C-extension, using the famous Don Beaudry hook. It seems that ExtensionClass does not completely what I want. Metaclasses implemented in python are somewhat slow, also writing them is a lot of work. Writing a metaclass in C is even more work... Well, what do I want? Often, I use the following pattern: class X: def __init__ (self): self.delegate = anObjectImplementedInC(...) def __getattr__ (self, key): return self.delegate.dosomething(key) def __setattr__ (self, key, value): self.delegate.doanotherthing(key, value) def __delattr__ (self, key): self.delegate.doevenmore(key) This is too slow (for me). So what I would like do to is: class X: def __init__ (self): self.__dict__ = aMappingObject(...) and now aMappingObject will automatically receive all the setattr, getattr, and delattr calls. The *only* thing which is required for this is to remove the restriction that the __dict__ attribute must be a dictionary. This is only a small change to classobject.c (which unfortunately I have only implemented for 1.5.2, not for the CVS version). The performance impact for this change is unnoticable in pystone. What do you think? Should I prepare a patch? Any chance that this can be included in a future python version? Thomas Heller

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Great Renaming - Straw Man 0.2
by Moshe Zadka March 30, 2000

March 30, 2000

Here's a second version of the straw man proposal for the reorganization of modules in packages. Note that I'm treating it as a strictly 1.7 proposal, so I don't care a "lot" about backwards compatiblity. I'm down to 4 unhandled modules, which means that if no one objects (and I'm sure someone will <wink>), this can be a plan of action. So get your objections ready guys! net httplib ftplib urllib cgi gopherlib imaplib poplib nntplib smptlib urlparse telnetlib server BaseHTTPServer CGIHTTPServer SimpleHTTPServer SocketServer asynchat asyncore text sgmllib htmllib htmlentitydefs xml whatever the xml-sig puts here mail rfc822 mime MimeWriter mimetools mimify mailcap mimetypes base64 quopri mailbox mhlib binhex parse string re regex reconvert regex_syntax regsub shlex ConfigParser linecache multifile netrc bin gzip zlib aifc chunk image imghdr colorsys imageop imgfile rgbimg yuvconvert sound sndhdr toaiff audiodev sunau sunaudio wave audioop sunaudiodev db anydbm whichdb bsddb dbm dbhash dumbdbm gdbm math bisect fpformat random whrandom cmath math crypt fpectl fpetest array md5 mpz rotor sha time calendar time tzparse sched timing interpreter new py_compile code codeop compileall keyword token tokenize parser dis bdb pdb profile pyclbr tabnanny symbol pstats traceback rlcompleter security Bastion rexec ihooks file dircache path -- a virtual module which would do a from <something>path import * dospath posixpath macpath nturl2path ntpath macurl2path filecmp fileinput StringIO cStringIO glob fnmatch posixfile stat statcache statvfs tempfile shutil pipes popen2 commands dl fcntl lowlevel socket select terminal termios pty tty readline syslog serialize pickle cPickle shelve xdrlib copy copy_reg threads thread threading Queue mutex ui curses Tkinter cmd getpass internal _codecs _locale _tkinter pcre strop posix users pwd grp nis sgi al cd cl fl fm gl misc (what used to be sgimodule.c) sv unicode codecs unicodedata unicodedatabase exceptions os types UserDict UserList user site locale pure formatter getopt signal pprint ========== Modules not handled ============ errno resource operator struct -- Moshe Zadka <mzadka(a)geocities.com>. http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com

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Re: [Distutils] Distutils now in Python CVS tree
by Fred L. Drake, Jr. March 29, 2000

March 29, 2000

Greg Ward writes: > Distutils is now available through the Python CVS tree *in addition to > its own CVS tree*. That is, if you keep on top of developments in the > Python CVS tree, then you will be tracking the latest Distutils code in > Lib/distutils. Or, you can keep following the Distutils through its own > CVS tree. (This is all done through one itty-bitty little symlink in > the CNRI CVS repository, and It Just Works. Cool.) Greg, You may want to point out the legalese requirements for patches to the Python tree. ;( That means the patches should probably go to patches(a)python.org or you should ensure an archive of all the legal statements is maintained at CNRI. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. <fdrake at acm.org> Corporation for National Research Initiatives

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Distutils now in Python CVS tree
by Greg Ward March 29, 2000

March 29, 2000

Hi all -- Distutils is now available through the Python CVS tree *in addition to its own CVS tree*. That is, if you keep on top of developments in the Python CVS tree, then you will be tracking the latest Distutils code in Lib/distutils. Or, you can keep following the Distutils through its own CVS tree. (This is all done through one itty-bitty little symlink in the CNRI CVS repository, and It Just Works. Cool.) Note that only the 'distutils' subdirectory of the distutils distribution is tracked by Python: that is, changes to the documentation, test suites, and example setup scripts are *not* reflected in the Python CVS tree. If you follow neither Python nor Distutils CVS updates, this doesn't affect you. If you've been following Distutils CVS updates, you can continue to do so as you've always done (and as is documented on the Distutils "Anonymous CVS" web page). If you've been following Python CVS updates, then you are now following most Distutils CVS updates too -- as long as you do "cvs update -d", of course. If you're interested in following updates in the Distutils documentation, tests, examples, etc. then you should follow the Distutils CVS tree directly. If you've been following *both* Python and Distutils CVS updates, and hacking on the Distutils, then you should pick one or the other as your working directory. If you submit patches, it doesn't really matter if they're relative to the top of the Python tree, the top of the Distutils tree, or what -- I'll probably figure it out. However, it's probably best to continue sending Distutils patches to distutils-sig(a)python.org, *or* direct to me (gward(a)python.net) for trivial patches. Unless Guido says otherwise, I don't see a compelling reason to send Distutils patches to patches(a)python.org. In related news, the distutils-checkins list is probably going to go away, and all Distutils checkin messages will go python-checkins instead. Let me know if you avidly follow distutils-checkins, but do *not* want to follow python-checkins -- if lots of people respond (doubtful, as distutils-checkins only had 3 subscribers last I checked!), we'll reconsider. Greg

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CVS woes...
by Skip Montanaro March 29, 2000

March 29, 2000

Does anyone else besides me have trouble getting their Python tree to sync with the CVS repository? I've tried all manner of flags to "cvs update", most recently "cvs update -d -A ." with no success. There are still some files I know Fred Drake has patched that show up as different and it refuses to pick up Lib/robotparser.py. I'm going to blast my current tree and start anew after saving one or two necessary files. Any thoughts you might have would be much appreciated. (Private emails please, unless for some reason you think this should be a python-dev topic. I only post here because I suspect most of the readers use CVS to keep in frequent sync and may have some insight.) Thx, -- Skip Montanaro | http://www.mojam.com/ skip(a)mojam.com | http://www.musi-cal.com/

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