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by Guido van Rossum

I've received some enthusiastic emails from someone who wants to revive restricted mode. He started out with a bunch of patches to the CPython runtime using ctypes, which he attached to an App Engine bug: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=671 Based on his code (the file secure.py is all you need, included in secure.tar.gz) it seems he believes the only security leaks are __subclasses__, gi_frame and gi_code. (I have since convinced him that if we add "restricted" guards to these attributes, he doesn't need the functions added to sys.) I don't recall the exploits that Samuele once posted that caused the death of rexec.py -- does anyone recall, or have a pointer to the threads? -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

6 years, 1 month

PEP 3145 (With Contents)

by Eric Pruitt

Alright, I will re-submit with the contents pasted. I never use double backquotes as I think them rather ugly; that is the work of an editor or some automated program in the chain. Plus, it also messed up my line formatting and now I have lines with one word on them... Anyway, the contents of PEP 3145: PEP: 3145 Title: Asynchronous I/O For subprocess.Popen Author: (James) Eric Pruitt, Charles R. McCreary, Josiah Carlson Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/plain Created: 04-Aug-2009 Python-Version: 3.2 Abstract: In its present form, the subprocess.Popen implementation is prone to dead-locking and blocking of the parent Python script while waiting on data from the child process. Motivation: A search for "python asynchronous subprocess" will turn up numerous accounts of people wanting to execute a child process and communicate with it from time to time reading only the data that is available instead of blocking to wait for the program to produce data [1] [2] [3]. The current behavior of the subprocess module is that when a user sends or receives data via the stdin, stderr and stdout file objects, dead locks are common and documented [4] [5]. While communicate can be used to alleviate some of the buffering issues, it will still cause the parent process to block while attempting to read data when none is available to be read from the child process. Rationale: There is a documented need for asynchronous, non-blocking functionality in subprocess.Popen [6] [7] [2] [3]. Inclusion of the code would improve the utility of the Python standard library that can be used on Unix based and Windows builds of Python. Practically every I/O object in Python has a file-like wrapper of some sort. Sockets already act as such and for strings there is StringIO. Popen can be made to act like a file by simply using the methods attached the the subprocess.Popen.stderr, stdout and stdin file-like objects. But when using the read and write methods of those options, you do not have the benefit of asynchronous I/O. In the proposed solution the wrapper wraps the asynchronous methods to mimic a file object. Reference Implementation: I have been maintaining a Google Code repository that contains all of my changes including tests and documentation [9] as well as blog detailing the problems I have come across in the development process [10]. I have been working on implementing non-blocking asynchronous I/O in the subprocess.Popen module as well as a wrapper class for subprocess.Popen that makes it so that an executed process can take the place of a file by duplicating all of the methods and attributes that file objects have. There are two base functions that have been added to the subprocess.Popen class: Popen.send and Popen._recv, each with two separate implementations, one for Windows and one for Unix based systems. The Windows implementation uses ctypes to access the functions needed to control pipes in the kernel 32 DLL in an asynchronous manner. On Unix based systems, the Python interface for file control serves the same purpose. The different implementations of Popen.send and Popen._recv have identical arguments to make code that uses these functions work across multiple platforms. When calling the Popen._recv function, it requires the pipe name be passed as an argument so there exists the Popen.recv function that passes selects stdout as the pipe for Popen._recv by default. Popen.recv_err selects stderr as the pipe by default. "Popen.recv" and "Popen.recv_err" are much easier to read and understand than "Popen._recv('stdout' ..." and "Popen._recv('stderr' ..." respectively. Since the Popen._recv function does not wait on data to be produced before returning a value, it may return empty bytes. Popen.asyncread handles this issue by returning all data read over a given time interval. The ProcessIOWrapper class uses the asyncread and asyncwrite functions to allow a process to act like a file so that there are no blocking issues that can arise from using the stdout and stdin file objects produced from a subprocess.Popen call. References: [1] [ python-Feature Requests-1191964 ] asynchronous Subprocess http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-bugs-list/2006-December/ 036524.html [2] Daily Life in an Ivory Basement : /feb-07/problems-with-subprocess http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/feb-07/problems-with-subprocess [3] How can I run an external command asynchronously from Python? - Stack Overflow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/636561/how-can-i-run-an-external- command-asynchronously-from-python [4] 18.1. subprocess - Subprocess management - Python v2.6.2 documentation http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html#subprocess.Popen.wait [5] 18.1. subprocess - Subprocess management - Python v2.6.2 documentation http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html#subprocess.Popen.kill [6] Issue 1191964: asynchronous Subprocess - Python tracker http://bugs.python.org/issue1191964 [7] Module to allow Asynchronous subprocess use on Windows and Posix platforms - ActiveState Code http://code.activestate.com/recipes/440554/ [8] subprocess.rst - subprocdev - Project Hosting on Google Code http://code.google.com/p/subprocdev/source/browse/doc/subprocess.rst?spec=s… [9] subprocdev - Project Hosting on Google Code http://code.google.com/p/subprocdev [10] Python Subprocess Dev http://subdev.blogspot.com/ Copyright: This P.E.P. is licensed under the Open Publication License; http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 22:56, Benjamin Peterson <benjamin(a)python.org> wrote: > 2009/9/7 Eric Pruitt <eric.pruitt(a)gmail.com>: >> Hello all, >> >> I have been working on adding asynchronous I/O to the Python >> subprocess module as part of my Google Summer of Code project. Now >> that I have finished documenting and pruning the code, I present PEP >> 3145 for its inclusion into the Python core code. Any and all feedback >> on the PEP (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3145/) is appreciated. > > Hi Eric, > One of the reasons you're not getting many response is that you've not > pasted the contents of the PEP in this message. That makes it really > easy for people to comment on various sections. > > BTW, it seems like you were trying to use reST formatting with the > text PEP layout. Double backquotes only mean something in reST. > > > -- > Regards, > Benjamin >

7 years, 9 months

Support the /usr/bin/python2 symlink upstream

by Kerrick Staley

Hello, There is a need for the default Python2 install to place a symlink at /usr/bin/python2 that points to /usr/bin/python, or for the documentation to recommend that packagers ensure that python2 is defined. Also, all documentation should be changed to recommend that "#!/usr/bin/env python2" be used as the shebang for Python 2 scripts. This is needed because some distributions (Arch Linux, in particular), point /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python3, while others (including Slackware, Debian, and the BSDs, probably more) do not even define the python2 command. This means that a script has no way of achieving cross-platform compatibility. The point at which many distributions begin to alias /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python3 is due soon, and for the next couple of years, it would be best to use a python2 or python3 shebang in all scripts, making no assumptions about plain python, which should only be invoked interactively. This email from about 3 years ago seems relevant: : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2008-March/012421.html Again, this issue needs to be addressed by the Python developers themselves so that different *nix distributions will handle it consistently, allowing Python scripts to continue to be cross-platform. Thanks, Kerrick Staley

9 years, 2 months

Python 3.3 release schedule posted

by Georg Brandl

I've posted a very preliminary Python 3.3 release schedule as PEP 398. The final release is set to be about 18 months after 3.2 final, which is in August 2012. For 3.3, I'd like to revive the tradition of listing planned large-scale changes in the PEP. Please let me know if you plan any such changes, at any time. (If they aren't codified in PEP form, we should think about whether they should be.) The "Candidate PEPs" I listed are those open PEPs that in my opinion have the highest chance to be accepted and implemented for 3.3. It is by no means binding. cheers, Georg

9 years, 4 months

Issue Tracker

by Ethan Furman

Greetings! I'm not sure where the best place is to ask this question, so I'll start here -- feel free to redirect me if necessary. I would like to have some software to keep track of bugs, to-do's, ideas, etc., etc. -- you know, an issue tracker! Naturally I thought of the one we use to track Python. Is it available? Is it written in Python? Are there any others that are recommended? Thanks! ~Ethan~

9 years, 4 months

2to3 status, repositories and HACKING guide

by anatoly techtonik

Hi, Currently 2to3 page at http://wiki.python.org/moin/2to3 lists http://svn.python.org/view/sandbox/trunk/2to3 as a repository for 2to3 tool. There is also an outdated repository at http://hg.python.org/ and the page says that the code is finally integrated into CPython 2.6 - you can see it at http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/default/Lib/lib2to3. So, what version is more up-to-date? In svn repository there is a HACKING guide advising to use find_pattern.py script for writing new fixer. However, there is no find_pattern.py in CPython repository, no HACKING guide, no any documentation about how to write fixers or description of PATTERN format. Did I miss something? -- anatoly t.

9 years, 4 months

Issue 11715: building Python from source on multiarch Debian/Ubuntu

by Barry Warsaw

Ubuntu 11.04 added support for multiarch libraries: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/MultiArch At the moment, I don't care about issue 1294959 which I think addresses building multiarch flavors of Python: http://bugs.python.org/issue1294959 I have a much more short-term concern, which is being able to build Python from source *on* a multiarch Debian/Ubuntu: http://bugs.python.org/issue11715 The problem is that without this patch (or something like it), several of the extension modules do not build because setup.py does not search the directories in which the third party .so files live. The patch in the tracker is fairly straightforward and should be robust enough for platforms without dpkg-architecture(1). It's adapted from the patch in the Ubuntu source package. I would like to apply this patch (or its moral equivalent) to all active, affected branches of Python, meaning 2.5 through 2.7, and 3.1 through 3.3, as soon as possible. Without this, it will be very difficult for anyone on future Ubuntu or Debian releases to build Python. Since it's not a new feature, but just a minor fix to the build process, I think it should be okay to back port. Please comment here or in the tracker for issue 11715. Cheers, -Barry

9 years, 5 months

Test "Force Build" on custom buildbots

by Victor Stinner

Hi, I'm testing my faulthandler repository on the custom buildbots, here are some remarks and issues. The form still refers to SVN ('Branch to build' is relative to http://svn.python.org/projects/python.) => the branch is relative to hg.python.org/ I cannot write "#" in the branch field to specify... the branch (only the repository). If the branch contains "#", the request looks to be ignored (without any warning/error). I merged my faulthandler branch into the default branch (in my features/faulthandler branch). I don't understand the meaning of the "project" field. It is maybe something specific to Subversion? What are the 3 optional properties? If branch doesn't end with a slash (e.g. "features/faulthandler"), the request is ignored (without any warning/error). I canceled a build on a Windows buildbot during the "tests" step using the [Cancel] button, but it failed to kill the process: http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/builders/x86%20Windows7% 20custom/builds/2/steps/test/logs/stdio ----------- command interrupted, killing pid 2168 SIGKILL failed to kill process using fake rc=-1 program finished with exit code -1 ----------- To test my faulthandler feature branch, the correct parameters are: -- Name: haypo Reason: test faulthandler Branch: features/faulthandler/ Revision: tip Repository: features/faulthandler (leave the project and the 6 property fields empty) -- The repository looks like a duplicate of the branch field. I would be better to use "default" as the branch and "features/faulthandler" as the repository. I would be nice to have error messages. Victor

9 years, 5 months

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Revert the Lib/test/test_bigmem.py changes from commit 17891566a478 (and a

by Éric Araujo

Hi, > changeset: 68921:11dc3f270594 > user: Thomas Wouters <thomas(a)python.org> > date: Fri Mar 25 11:42:37 2011 +0100 > summary: > Revert the Lib/test/test_bigmem.py changes from commit 17891566a478 (and a > few other assertEqual tests that snuck in), and expand the docstrings and > comments explaining why and how these tests are supposed to work. Your commit message does not explain why you reverted the changes. The specific assert* methods give more useful messages than assertEqual in case of failure. Regards

9 years, 5 months

Please revert autofolding of tracker edit form

by Terry Reedy

The tracker was recently changed so that when I click on a link to a tracker page, the page is properly displayed, but then a fraction of a second it blinks and redisplays with the edit form hidden. This is so obnoxious to me that I no longer want to visit the tracker. Then I have to find and click the button to get back the edit form that I nearly always want to see, as I often make changes. All this to compress the page by half a screen, which makes almost no difference once one grabs the scrollbar anyway. If someone actually considers this a desired feature, after using it, then please add a field on the profile page to select autofolding or not. Also, there should be a button to fold as well as one to unfold. -- Terry Jan Reedy

9 years, 5 months

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