Mailman 3 October 2008 - Python-Dev

Save file by using file() function and fileDialog()
by Sonia Oct. 30, 2008

Oct. 30, 2008

I m using fileDialog(self, message, path, filename, filter, aStyle(opotional)) to save the file. In my code, i used fileDialog to show save dialog box and when we click on save button, it should save that file which is of txt type (filter = '*.txt'). But when we click on save button it returns error: "coercing to unicode: need string or buffer, list found" rather than saving / creating a file. I also tried f = file(myfile, 'w', 1000) instead of f = file(myfile, 'w'), where 1000 is buffer size, but both have the same error. where as if we use file( filename[, mode[, bufsize]]) , then it creates a file of specified type. But it is not working in fileDialog(). Why?Where i m wrong? What should i do? Following is my code: def on_btn2_mouseClick(self, event): aStyle = wx.SAVE|wx.HIDE_READONLY|wx.OVERWRITE_PROMPT filter = '*.txt' result = dialog.fileDialog(self, 'ist def', '', 'n', wildcard, aStyle) myfile= result.paths if result.accepted == True : f = file(myfile, 'w') f.write('my file') f.close() _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=…

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is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?
by Brett Cannon Oct. 28, 2008

Oct. 28, 2008

I just discovered frozen packages set their __path__ simply to their name and not to a list as expected (http://bugs.python.org/issue4211). This made me think about the 'path' argument to find_module() and whether it can be treated as simply a hint or should always be seriously looked at. Take frozen modules, for instance. If the 'path' argument is meant to always be considered then if a frozen module is within a package a check should be done to make sure that the parent package is in 'path' somewhere. But if it is simply a hint, then 'path' should be ignored and whether the module can be found should depend fully on imp.is_frozen(). So, what do people think? Should 'path' for find_module() always be taken into consideration, or only when it happens to be convenient? -Brett

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Re: [Python-Dev] is the 'path' argument to an importer's find_module() just a hint?
by glyph＠divmod.com Oct. 27, 2008

Oct. 27, 2008

On 08:44 pm, brett(a)python.org wrote: >On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan(a)gmail.com> >wrote: >>If the current system is setting __path__ to a string in frozen >>packages, I'd have to wonder how well any existing __path__ >>manipulation >>tools handle frozen packages without special-casing them. >I doubt anyone does. As Thomas asked, do people really even still use >frozen modules? Well, speaking of vaporware, I know that when Divmod is discussing proprietary Python software with potential clients, Freeze often comes up. We tend to discourage its actual use, but the *possibility* of jamming all the distributed Python modules into a shared library or executable and never loading them directly from the filesystem has been an important selling point of Python in the past. I do know that a few commercial games have shipped with a big pile of frozen Python inside them; I don't know when the most recent one was.

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Why do we care about -OPT:Olimit=0?
by skip＠pobox.com Oct. 27, 2008

Oct. 27, 2008

Python's configure.in contains this check: # disable check for icc since it seems to pass, but generates a warning if test "$CC" = icc then ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok=no fi AC_MSG_CHECKING(whether $CC accepts -OPT:Olimit=0) AC_CACHE_VAL(ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok, [ac_save_cc="$CC" CC="$CC -OPT:Olimit=0" AC_TRY_RUN([int main() { return 0; }], ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok=yes, ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok=no, ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok=no) CC="$ac_save_cc"]) AC_MSG_RESULT($ac_cv_opt_olimit_ok) Why do we care about that particular obscure compiler flag? I'm trying to build Python 2.4.x with the Sun Studio 12 compiler, which appears to operate in the same broken fashion as icc. It warns that it doesn't support the option but still exits with a zero status which makes configure incorrectly think it does support the flag. This same chunk of code seems to be in configure.in dating back to 1997 with this comment: r8948 | guido | 1997-10-09 15:24:13 -0500 (Thu, 09 Oct 1997) | 2 lines Don Beaudry's changes to support SGI_ABI on Irix 6.x. Can this check be ripped out? Skip

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[ANN] VPython 0.1
by cadr4u＠gmail.com Oct. 26, 2008

Oct. 26, 2008

Hi, I implemented a variant of the CPython VM on top of Gforth's Vmgen; this made it fairly straightforward to add direct threaded code and superinstructions for the various permutations of LOAD_CONST, LOAD_FAST, and most of the two-argument VM instructions. Sources: http://svirfneblin.org/stuff/VPython-0.1.tar.gz Pybench output: Test minimum run-time average run-time this other diff this other diff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BuiltinFunctionCalls: 104ms 126ms -17.3% 110ms 128ms -14.0% BuiltinMethodLookup: 98ms 136ms -27.9% 100ms 139ms -28.1% CompareFloats: 59ms 121ms -51.1% 60ms 123ms -50.7% CompareFloatsIntegers: 67ms 121ms -45.0% 73ms 136ms -46.7% CompareIntegers: 57ms 157ms -63.7% 58ms 161ms -64.1% CompareInternedStrings: 55ms 143ms -61.6% 57ms 161ms -64.5% CompareLongs: 56ms 122ms -54.0% 61ms 141ms -56.7% CompareStrings: 71ms 126ms -43.6% 72ms 131ms -44.7% CompareUnicode: 82ms 123ms -33.5% 83ms 131ms -36.7% ConcatStrings: 119ms 146ms -18.4% 129ms 158ms -18.4% ConcatUnicode: 90ms 109ms -17.2% 97ms 121ms -19.8% CreateInstances: 116ms 124ms -6.6% 118ms 127ms -7.0% CreateNewInstances: 109ms 119ms -7.9% 113ms 121ms -6.6% CreateStringsWithConcat: 97ms 162ms -40.3% 99ms 169ms -41.5% CreateUnicodeWithConcat: 90ms 116ms -22.8% 97ms 122ms -20.8% DictCreation: 87ms 122ms -28.6% 91ms 127ms -28.0% DictWithFloatKeys: 98ms 139ms -29.5% 105ms 148ms -29.3% DictWithIntegerKeys: 71ms 133ms -46.7% 74ms 136ms -46.0% DictWithStringKeys: 62ms 126ms -51.0% 64ms 128ms -50.3% ForLoops: 68ms 135ms -49.2% 69ms 136ms -49.2% IfThenElse: 63ms 130ms -51.6% 64ms 134ms -51.9% ListSlicing: 122ms 123ms -0.9% 126ms 125ms +0.8% NestedForLoops: 89ms 149ms -40.2% 93ms 152ms -38.9% NormalClassAttribute: 88ms 132ms -33.1% 95ms 134ms -29.5% NormalInstanceAttribute: 72ms 116ms -37.9% 77ms 118ms -34.8% PythonFunctionCalls: 90ms 122ms -26.1% 94ms 125ms -24.7% PythonMethodCalls: 117ms 144ms -18.8% 121ms 147ms -17.8% Recursion: 121ms 180ms -32.6% 124ms 184ms -32.4% SecondImport: 144ms 139ms +3.5% 150ms 143ms +4.8% SecondPackageImport: 151ms 145ms +3.9% 156ms 149ms +4.3% SecondSubmoduleImport: 178ms 168ms +5.8% 186ms 176ms +5.4% SimpleComplexArithmetic: 71ms 112ms -36.7% 76ms 123ms -38.3% SimpleDictManipulation: 77ms 139ms -44.3% 78ms 140ms -44.3% SimpleFloatArithmetic: 61ms 124ms -50.7% 63ms 126ms -50.2% SimpleIntFloatArithmetic: 61ms 121ms -49.4% 62ms 123ms -49.5% SimpleIntegerArithmetic: 61ms 121ms -49.5% 62ms 123ms -49.8% SimpleListManipulation: 58ms 116ms -50.0% 58ms 117ms -50.2% SimpleLongArithmetic: 89ms 121ms -26.3% 91ms 124ms -27.0% SmallLists: 79ms 116ms -31.8% 82ms 122ms -32.6% SmallTuples: 91ms 117ms -22.6% 93ms 122ms -23.6% SpecialClassAttribute: 84ms 132ms -36.4% 93ms 134ms -30.4% SpecialInstanceAttribute: 111ms 153ms -27.6% 114ms 155ms -26.2% StringMappings: 102ms 115ms -11.1% 104ms 117ms -10.9% StringPredicates: 100ms 136ms -26.7% 101ms 137ms -26.1% StringSlicing: 79ms 114ms -30.2% 84ms 119ms -29.9% TryExcept: 68ms 145ms -53.2% 69ms 148ms -53.6% TryRaiseExcept: 106ms 104ms +2.7% 109ms 106ms +2.8% TupleSlicing: 108ms 126ms -14.4% 113ms 130ms -13.0% UnicodeMappings: 150ms 150ms -0.4% 152ms 154ms -1.7% UnicodePredicates: 106ms 130ms -18.3% 108ms 133ms -18.3% UnicodeProperties: 94ms 111ms -15.2% 97ms 115ms -15.5% UnicodeSlicing: 101ms 130ms -22.5% 105ms 136ms -22.6% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Totals: 4750ms 6788ms -30.0% 4929ms 7035ms -29.9% ``other'' is vanilla Python 2.5.2. For details, see README, TODO, and PYBENCH which come with the sources. Feedback is, of course, very welcome and it'd be great to have some pybench results from different machines. Cheers, -jakob

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No manifest files on Windows?
by "Martin v. Löwis" Oct. 25, 2008

Oct. 25, 2008

In http://bugs.python.org/issue4120, the author suggests that it might be possible to completely stop using the manifest mechanism, for VS 2008. Given the many problems that this SxS stuff has caused, this sounds like a very desirable route, although I haven't done any actual testing yet. Can all the Windows experts please comment? Could that work? Does it have any downsides? If it works, I would like to apply it to 3.0, although I probably won't be able to apply it to tomorrow's rc. Would it also be possible to change that in 2.6.1 (even though python26.dll in 2.6.0 already includes a manifest, as do all the pyd files)? Regards, Martin

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Summary of Python tracker Issues
by Python tracker Oct. 24, 2008

Oct. 24, 2008

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (10/17/08 - 10/24/08) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 2124 open (+32) / 13891 closed (+20) / 16015 total (+52) Open issues with patches: 700 Average duration of open issues: 713 days. Median duration of open issues: 1918 days. Open Issues Breakdown open 2108 (+32) pending 16 ( +0) Issues Created Or Reopened (54) _______________________________ Memory leak in itertools.chain() 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue2231 reopened loewis patch itertools.groupby() leaks memory with circular reference 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue2246 reopened loewis patch Dis docs on CALL_FUNCTION a bit unclear 10/17/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4141 created novalis_dt patch smtplib doesn't clear helo/ehlo flags on quit 10/17/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4142 created dwig ast.Node objects do not have column number information 10/18/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4143 created kevinwatters 3 tutorial documentation errors 10/18/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4144 created LambertDW tabulary entries in PDF documentation 10/19/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4145 created wplappert compilation of Modules/python.c fails on OpenBSD 10/19/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4146 created djmdjm patch, needs review xml.dom.minidom toprettyxml: omit whitespace for text-only eleme 10/19/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4147 created thomas.lee patch Using blender 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4148 created mshee Py_BuildValue and "y" format unit 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4149 created exe pdb "up" command fails in generator frames 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4150 created arigo patch, patch Separate build dir broken 10/20/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4151 created nas patch ihooks module cannot handle absolute imports 10/20/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4152 created nas Unicode HOWTO up to date? 10/20/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4153 created tjreedy More doc trivia 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4154 created LambertDW Wrong math calculation 10/20/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4155 created bubersson Docs for BaseHandler.protocol_xxx methods are unclear 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4156 created kjohnson Tuple not callable in platform.py 10/21/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4157 created Feite compilation of sqlite3 fails 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4158 created jlp Table about Standard Encodings is cut off at the bottom - 35 ent 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4159 created wplappert library.pdf - Section 12.13.2 Connection Objects - example cut o 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4160 created wplappert test_urllib fails with ValueError 10/21/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4161 created csernazs patch library.pdf - Section 17.6.4 Examples - Multiprocessing - Format 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4162 created wplappert textwrap wordsep_re Unicode 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4163 created skirsche patch String double quoted fatal problem 10/21/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4164 created cliffdover88 Failure building 64-bit Python on Leopard 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4165 created anand extra "\fi" in sphinx.sty, line 62 10/21/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4166 created efiring Inline Markup :const: shows up in Documentation 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4167 created wplappert core dump exiting python 10/22/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4168 created LambertDW library/turtle.rst does not format properly in PDF mode 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4169 created wplappert segfault with defaultdict and pickle 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4170 created erickt patch SSL handshake fails after TCP connection in getpeername() 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4171 created ddvoinikov distutils too picky about cygwin ld's version number 10/22/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4172 created zooko PDF documentation: long verbatim lines are cut off at right hand 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4173 created wplappert Performance optimization for min() and max() over lists 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4174 created krisvale patch, patch, needs review Should Unix-only tty be present in Windows /Lib? 10/22/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4175 created tjreedy segfault with pickle if 4th or 5th item of tuple returned by __r 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4176 created ocean-city patch, needs review Crash in MIMEText on FreeBSD 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4177 created surkamp codecs: Documentation Inconsistency 10/22/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4178 created mfwitten pdb: Allow the "list" command to return to the currently debugge 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4179 created dclemente patch warnings.simplefilter("always") does not make warnings always sh 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4180 created exarkun patch Invalid Behavior When a Default Argument is a Dictionary. 10/22/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4181 created Pasha2009 warnings.warn shows the wrong filename and line number for stack 10/22/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4182 created exarkun test with pickle.HIGHEST_PROTOCOL missing 10/23/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4183 created ocean-city patch, easy Remove use of private attributes in smtpd 10/23/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4184 created richard re module treats raw strings as normal strings 10/23/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4185 created ezio.melotti type() doesn't accept bases and dict keyword arguments 10/23/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4186 created barry IDLE will not start. 10/23/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4187 created ldehkire Lib/threading.py causes infinite recursion when running as verbo 10/23/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4188 created gpolo patch Tilde compression isn't applied in TOC 10/23/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4189 created jeffreyharris IDLE (2.6) doesn't stay open 10/23/08 CLOSED http://bugs.python.org/issue4190 created andrew.t.shaw7 urlparse normalize URL path 10/24/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4191 created monk.e.boy Subprocess error with I/O redirection to Pipes 10/24/08 http://bugs.python.org/issue4192 created pakal Issues Now Closed (37) ______________________ Memory leak in itertools.chain() 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue2231 rhettinger patch itertools.groupby() leaks memory with circular reference 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue2246 loewis patch 2to3 translates "import foobar" to "import .foobar" rather than 213 days http://bugs.python.org/issue2446 benjamin.peterson Document PEP 3118 192 days http://bugs.python.org/issue2619 benjamin.peterson backport python 3.0 language functionality to python 2.6 by addi 114 days http://bugs.python.org/issue3238 kaizhu patch Pickler.dump from a badly initialized Pickler segfaults 54 days http://bugs.python.org/issue3664 amaury.forgeotdarc patch "for me" installer problem on x64 Vista 16 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4018 loewis patch, needs review wrong page index number in reference book of python documentatio 16 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4027 wplappert Reference to non-existent __version__ in ast module 14 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4062 benjamin.peterson ast.fix_missing_locations() breaks if node doesn't have "_attrib 12 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4067 aronacher patch Error copying directory to _static in Sphinx 10 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4081 georg.brandl inspect.getargvalues return type not ArgInfo 12 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4092 benjamin.peterson Namespace inconsistency 7 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4104 tjreedy Performance regression in long division in 2.6 2 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4128 loewis IDLE crashes in my Windows Vista 2 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4138 loewis Major error in cmath routines 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4139 marketdickinson Dis docs on CALL_FUNCTION a bit unclear 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4141 benjamin.peterson patch ast.Node objects do not have column number information 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4143 benjamin.peterson compilation of Modules/python.c fails on OpenBSD 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4146 benjamin.peterson patch, needs review Using blender 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4148 benjamin.peterson Py_BuildValue and "y" format unit 2 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4149 benjamin.peterson pdb "up" command fails in generator frames 2 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4150 benjamin.peterson patch, patch More doc trivia 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4154 benjamin.peterson Wrong math calculation 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4155 rhettinger Tuple not callable in platform.py 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4157 amaury.forgeotdarc test_urllib fails with ValueError 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4161 benjamin.peterson patch String double quoted fatal problem 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4164 amaury.forgeotdarc core dump exiting python 1 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4168 benjamin.peterson distutils too picky about cygwin ld's version number 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4172 amaury.forgeotdarc Should Unix-only tty be present in Windows /Lib? 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4175 loewis codecs: Documentation Inconsistency 1 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4178 doerwalter Invalid Behavior When a Default Argument is a Dictionary. 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4181 christian.heimes test with pickle.HIGHEST_PROTOCOL missing 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4183 ocean-city patch, easy re module treats raw strings as normal strings 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4185 ezio.melotti IDLE will not start. 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4187 gpolo IDLE (2.6) doesn't stay open 0 days http://bugs.python.org/issue4190 benjamin.peterson cygwinccompiler.get_versions fails on `ld -v` output 1706 days http://bugs.python.org/issue900977 amaury.forgeotdarc Top Issues Most Discussed (10) ______________________________ 11 Do not embed manifest files in *.pyd when compiling with MSVC 10 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4120 10 tabulary entries in PDF documentation 5 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4145 9 Crash in MIMEText on FreeBSD 2 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4177 7 warnings.simplefilter("always") does not make warnings always s 2 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4180 7 merge json library with simplejson 2.0.3 8 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4136 6 Pickle stream for unicode object may contain non-ASCII characte 150 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue2980 5 Performance optimization for min() and max() over lists 2 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4174 5 segfault with defaultdict and pickle 2 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue4170 5 zipfile and winzip 25 days open http://bugs.python.org/issue3997 5 backport python 3.0 language functionality to python 2.6 by add 114 days closed http://bugs.python.org/issue3238

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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?
by skip＠pobox.com Oct. 23, 2008

Oct. 23, 2008

Christian> I just implemented the recv_bytes_into function with the old Christian> buffer protocol. All tests are passing on my Linux box Christian> (Ubuntu 8.04 with gcc 4.2, AMD64 processor). Using Python v < 2.6? So I don't need to horse around making test_multiprocessing.py API compatible with processing 0.52? Skip

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heapq, min and max
by Kristján Valur Jónsson Oct. 22, 2008

Oct. 22, 2008

Hello there. I was surprised to find recently that the heapq module is still a pure python implementation. A few years ago we wrote our own in C for use in Eve-online, and we usually do a import blue.heapq as heapq. Having a python implementation of it almost completely negates any benefit of using that in place of sort() unles the comparison is really expensive. I'd be happy to donate an implementation if there is any interest. I also recently came across the recommendation that one should use the "min" and "max" builtins instead of using heapq or sort() when trying to find a single smallest element. Well, this is also not true, for simple comparisons, because currently "min" and "max" use the iterator protocol, whereas sort() (and blue.heapq.heapify) use direct list access, thus halving the number of python method calls approximately. s=""" import random l = [random.random() for i in xrange(10000)] """ timeit.Timer("(l.sort(), l[-1])", s).timeit(1000) 0.29406761513791935 timeit.Timer("max(l)", s).timeit(1000) 0.4760155766743992 >>> Now, this is easy enough to rectify, by providing a list specialization for min_max(). This would also make sure that "min" is truly the fastest way to find the minimum member of a list. Would there be interest in this? (I will be patching the CCP version of python for it anyway). We are using 2.5.3, but these changes should be directly applicable to 2.6 too. K

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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Backporting multiprocessing?
by jnoller＠gmail.com Oct. 22, 2008

Oct. 22, 2008

Maybe we should backport those handy pep8 threading names ... ... Ok maybe not. On Oct 22, 2008 9:02am, Christian Heimes <lists(a)cheimes.de> wrote: > skip(a)pobox.com wrote: > > > I checked in the contents of my multiprocessing.tar file and opened issues > > #1 and #2. > > > > > I added a setup.py, disabled recv_bytes_into for now and fixed lots of > > naming issues. The multiprocessing code is using the new names of the > > threading module (current_thread, is_alive etc.) but Python 2.5 just > > have the old names (currentThread, isAlive). > > > > $ python2.5 setup.py build_ext -i > > $ PYTHONPATH=Lib python2.5 Lib/test/test_multiprocessing.py > > > > ====================================================================== > > ERROR: test_connection (__main__.WithProcessesTestConnection) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "Lib/test/test_multiprocessing.py", line 1220, in test_connection > > self.assertEqual(conn.recv_bytes_into(buffer), > > AttributeError: '_multiprocessing.Connection' object has no attribute > > 'recv_bytes_into' > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ran 123 tests in 12.309s > > > > FAILED (errors=1) > > > > :) > > > > Christian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-3000 mailing list > > Python-3000(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 > > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/jnoller%40gmail.com >

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