Mailman 3 March 2009 - Python-Dev

mentoring Roundup work
by Stefan Seefeld March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

Hello, I have just applied to be considered as GSoC mentor with the PSF, notably work on Roundup. (My ID is 'stefan') I'm a long-term Roundup user and contributor. My recent contributions include the XMLRPC interface, as well as many bug fixes and enhancements. I also spearheaded the migration of python.org from the sf.net bug tracker(s) to bugs.python.org. Please let me know if there are any mailing lists or other channels I should connect to to follow-up. Thanks, Stefan -- … [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 380 (yield from a subgenerator) comments
by P.J. Eby March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

At 06:52 AM 3/28/2009 -0500, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > 2. In addition to the "yield from" syntax for delegating to a > > subgenerator, also add new syntax for returning values from > > subgenerators so that the basic "return X" can continue to trigger > > SyntaxError. > > > > Since option 2 would most likely lead to a bikeshed discussion of epic > > proportions, I'm currently a fan of option 1 ;) > >Me too. It also seems option 2 doesn't help us … [View More]

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PEP 380 (yield from a subgenerator) comments
by Nick Coghlan March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

I really like the PEP - it's a solid extension of the ideas introduced by PEP 342. The two changes I would suggest is that the PEP be made more explicit regarding the fact that the try/finally block only enclose the yield expression itself (i.e. no other parts of the containing statement) and that the caching comment be updated with a list of specific semantic elements that the caching should not affect. For the first part, I would prefer if the example was changed to use capitals for the … [View More]

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version compare function into main lib
by anatoly techtonik March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

Greetings, Correct me if I wrong, but shouldn't Python include function for version comparisons? The problem of splitting a string like "10.3.40-beta" into tuple for cmp() seems to be dead simple, but the code gets bulky with excepting errors arised from converting resulting strings for arithmetic comparison. No wonder people advise to use ready distutils.version module, but that's not good to introduce such dependency for main program logic. What do you think about adding cmpversions(first, … [View More]

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Partial 2to3?
by skip＠pobox.com March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

Following up on yesterday's conversation about 2to3 and 3to2, I wonder if it's easily possible to run 2to3 with a specific small subset of its fixers? For example, people not wanting to make the 2->3 leap yet might still be interersted in the exception handling changes ("except Foo as exc")? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip(a)pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/

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Version strings
by "Martin v. Löwis" March 27, 2009

March 27, 2009

I just collected the version strings of versions that got released to PyPI, and put up the list on http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/home/loewis/versions Most of them probably fit into any schema we come up with, but there are certainly some unconventional ones: 1 to 3 1.* Verrsion 1 working proof of concept Regards, Martin

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"setuptools has divided the Python community"
by Olemis Lang March 27, 2009

March 27, 2009

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry(a)python.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >>> One thing that /would/ be helpful though is the ability to list all the >>> resources under a specific package path. This is (I think) one use case >>> that pkg_resource fails to support and it's the one place that I've had >>> to >>> drop … [View More]

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Bug#521275: Acknowledgement (colored prompt conflicts with cursor positioning)
by owner＠bugs.debian.org March 27, 2009

March 27, 2009

Thank you for filing a new Bug report with Debian. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received. Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course. Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s): Matthias Klose <doko(a)debian.org> If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please send it to 521275(a)bugs.debian.org, as before. … [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)
by Tarek Ziadé March 27, 2009

March 27, 2009

2009/3/27 P.J. Eby <pje(a)telecommunity.com>: > Also, it's quite likely that platform-specific dependencies may exist as > well. It might be possible to accommodate these things with a sufficiently > flexible format, but currently, the only way to handle them with > distutils/setuptools is in the setup script. > Yes, we are working on these particular issues when some metadata require some code to run. But most of the time, a package is able to express its … [View More]

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"setuptools has divided the Python community"
by Olemis Lang March 27, 2009

March 27, 2009

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Fred Drake <fdrake(a)acm.org> wrote: > On Mar 27, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> >> One of the motivations for deprecating this (and for using this >> specific example) was that Matthias Klose, the Python packager for >> Debian, said he never uses bdist_rpm. > > Given that Debian doesn't use RPMs, Only if using alien ... but ... > isn't that expected? > ... yes I assume that the best way for building … [View More]

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