Mailman 3 August 2000 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Announce] Mailman 2.0 beta 5
by Nigel Metheringham 04 Aug '00

04 Aug '00

wheakory(a)isu.edu said: > Question how do I delete a message out of mailman that just keeps > resending over and over, it a 4.3mb message and it keeps sending to a > mail server user account who is over their quota I am running Sendmail > as my MTA. Are you sure its *mailman* doing this? Mailman would not get involved in resending mail to a user whose MTA temporarily (or permanently) rejected a mail - that should be done by the MTA. Check whether this message is in your sendmail queue and dispose of it appropriately (not sure how as a non sendmail user). Nigel. -- [ - Opinions expressed are personal and may not be shared by VData - ] [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Show the mailing list content on web
by sowen 04 Aug '00

04 Aug '00

Hi,All: Do anyone know how to show the mailing list content on web? If I want to make a interface like OUTLOOK to show mailing_list name, mailing_list artical title and mailing_list content, can I use some existent class in Mailman to do that? Best Regards! Sowen

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Show the mailing list content on web
by sowen 04 Aug '00

04 Aug '00

Hi,All: Do anyone know how to show the mailing list content on web? If I want to make a interface like OUTLOOK to show mailing_list name, mailing_list artical title and mailing_list content, can I use some existent class in Mailman to do that? Best Regards! Sowen

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Mailman 2.0 beta 5
by bwarsaw＠beopen.com 03 Aug '00

03 Aug '00

Folks, I've just released Mailman 2.0 beta 5. This is an important bug fix release that should once and for all solve the "cookie re-authentication" bug. It also fixes a small security hole that could be exploited by clever local users to gain group mailman permission. As usual, you can get the tarball from SourceForge http://download.sourceforge.net/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5.tgz or list.org http://www.list.org/mailman.tar.gz or (soon) ftp.gnu.org ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5.tgz Please let me know how it goes for you. Remember to use the SourceForge bug tracker for reporting bugs NOT the old Jitterbug database on python.org (which I cannot shut off right now). Also, patches should be uploaded to the SourceForge patch manager. Enjoy, -Barry

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Database API
by Andy Lowe 03 Aug '00

03 Aug '00

OK, assuming we have a working draft for the database API, how do we go about developing this? I see this project seriously breaking mailman for a while until everything gets synced up. Do we want to create a separate branch in CVS? Or do we want to just put it on an ftp site I can provide. The only problem with CVS is that I am behind a very restrictive firewall and can basically only get http/https/ftp access to the internet, so I would prefer to use ftp, or http enabled CVS. Does SourceForge allow you to checkout via https? I don't think so. Ricardo an I are interested in coding this project, how about anyone else? I have already started working on the oracle module, and I am guessing that Ricardo will want to do MySQL and or MS-SQL . I think the other parts necessary include changing the current mailman code to fit the API and breaking the Marshal code out of the current Mailman code. Perhaps the 'changing the mailman' aspect could be broken down further into changing each of the current modules like Maillist etc. . . It appears to me that we are ready to break off into a smaller developers group and start cranking out some code. What I don't know is whether normal mailman development will continue and or how we should integrate the API enhanced version of Mailman back into the normal development once complete. Any suggestions? A. L.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] I want to ask some questions about Default.py
by Dan Mick 03 Aug '00

03 Aug '00

> In Default.py I found two kinds of DELIVERY_Moudle.What's different between "Sendmail" and "STMPDirect"? Did you read the comments like the comment in Defaults.py said to? Read the front part of Handlers/Sendmail.py and Handlers/SMTPDirect.py. > Do anyone think it is possbile that mailman can work with Exchange Server? Sure, assuming Exchange Server speaks SMTP. > I tried to change "SMTPHOST=localhost" to "SMTPHOST=192.168.1.254",which is another linux machine with sendmail service.The Delivery_Moudel still was "SMTPDirect",but the mailman can't work properly,I can't receive any letter from my own mailing list.How can I set SMTP Server to another machine? That might work, but without some sort of details about "can't work properly" (did it explode? Did you see Satan? Did it start oozing butterscotch pudding?) it's hard to say. > At last,I want to know,what is the SMTPport mean? The port on which SMTP runs. > Is it POP? No, SMTP is not POP. > why not 25? If you mean "Why does Defaults.py set it to 0 instead of 25", the comment on that same line is a big clue: SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib I haven't read the code in smtplib, but it seems to me that says "get the default value from smtplib". By golly, reading smtplib.py gives the answer again: If specified, `port' specifies the port to which to connect. By default, smtplib.SMTP_PORT is used.

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I want to ask some questions about Default.py
by webweave 03 Aug '00

03 Aug '00

Hello All: I want to ask some questions about mailman. In Default.py I found two kinds of DELIVERY_Moudle.What's different between "Sendmail" and "STMPDirect"? Do anyone think it is possbile that mailman can work with Exchange Server? I tried to change "SMTPHOST=localhost" to "SMTPHOST=192.168.1.254",which is another linux machine with sendmail service.The Delivery_Moudel still was "SMTPDirect",but the mailman can't work properly,I can't receive any letter from my own mailing list.How can I set SMTP Server to another machine? At last,I want to know,what is the SMTPport mean? Is it POP? why not 25? Pls Help me. ^^) Best Regards! Sowen

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.0 beta 5
by bwarsaw＠beopen.com 02 Aug '00

02 Aug '00

>>>>> "TCM" == Todd C Miller <Todd.Miller(a)courtesan.com> writes: | In message <14727.42080.119761.425152(a)anthem.concentric.net> | so spake (bwarsaw): TCM> Just in case this bites anyone else, I ran into problems TCM> because I had set DEFAULT_URL to a value that did not end in TCM> '/'. This worked fine up up to and including beta 4 but with TCM> beta 5 it broke Utils.ScriptURL. Adding a trailing slash TCM> made things much happier (but I had to read Utils.ScriptURL TCM> to guess why :-). I had a sneaking suspicion about that. I'll make sure there's a more robust solution in the next release. -Barry

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Still Getting issues with windows clients and lockfiles
by John MacKenzie 02 Aug '00

02 Aug '00

Hey Folks , Just to let you know that Even after upgrading to 2.0b5 I'm still experiencing this issue. Incase you need a reminder of the issue... Basically lockfiles don't appear to be expiring, also Windows browsers attempting to view the lists are getting internal server error messages , while my Linux Netscape works fine (after I've manually deleted the lock) Barry, Not sure if you've got time to look at this but if you do , You're more than welcome to shell access. Regards - John -- John MacKenzie | Unix Systems Admin | e: mailto:jmackenzie@local.ie ___________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch your local area through Local Ireland http://chat.local.ie/chat/index.html ___________________________________________________________________ local ireland | dublin | new york | http://www.local.ie t: +353 1 676 8996 f: +353 1 283 9988

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Database API
by Chuq Von Rospach 02 Aug '00

02 Aug '00

At 1:40 PM -0700 8/1/00, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: >The big thing I can think of would be to add in backend support into >pipermail. It would be neat to be able to store archives in a database. > ><mode="wishful thinking"> basically, every module should be an API, so that anything you want to do, you do by writing an interface to the API. You'd no longer have a pipermail interface, but an archive API, which can be called 0...N times, one for each instance of an archive. Ditto subscriptions, ditto everything else.... -- Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@plaidworks.com) Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq@apple.com) And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"

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