Mailman-Developers May 2004

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2.1.5: Incorrect -1 or 1 messages in moderator queue
by Matt Domsch 28 May '04

28 May '04

Submitted yesterday as Bug 961587. Mailman 2.1.5, upgraded from 2.1.4. Three different lists on the same server exhibit similar behaviour. One list gets admin notices daily that there are -1 messages in the moderator queue, when there are none displayed on the admindb page. Two other list gets admin notices daily that there are 1 messages in the moderator queue, when there are none displayed. For one list, I have rmlist'd it and re-created it, to no avail. Please advise. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

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Followup: A Postfix patch
by Eric M. Hopper 27 May '04

27 May '04

The MIME policies on here are ridiculous. I'm not going to jump through 50 hoops just to post a stupid small patch. And I'm not going to stop signing my email either. *sigh*, -- The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. -- Alexander Hamilton -- Eric Hopper (hopper(a)omnifarious.org http://www.omnifarious.org/~hopper) --

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A Postfix patch
by Eric M. Hopper 27 May '04

27 May '04

It's really annoyed me that I can't create a list alias domain, like lists.omnifarious.org and still be able to refuse mail to list-name(a)omnifarious.org So, I created a small patch to Mailman.MTA.Postfix that allows you to specify a prefix to be applied to all virtually hosted lists that show up in the omnifarious.org domain. For example, I have set this prefix to 'mmlist_'. This is what my virtual-mailman file now looks like: # STANZA START: list-name # CREATED: Thu May 27 08:00:48 2004 list-name(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name list-name-admin(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-admin list-name-bounces(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-bounces list-name-confirm(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-confirm list-name-join(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-join list-name-leave(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-leave list-name-owner(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-owner list-name-request(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-request list-name-subscribe(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-subscribe list-name-unsubscribe(a)lists.omnifarious.org mmlist_list-name-unsubscribe # STANZA END: list-name And, here is what my aliases file looks like: # STANZA START: list-name # CREATED: Thu May 27 08:00:48 2004 mmlist_list-name: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name post list-name" mmlist_list-name-admin: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name admin list-name" mmlist_list-name-bounces: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name bounces list-name" mmlist_list-name-confirm: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name confirm list-name" mmlist_list-name-join: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name join list-name" mmlist_list-name-leave: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name leave list-name" mmlist_list-name-owner: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name owner list-name" mmlist_list-name-request: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name request list-name" mmlist_list-name-subscribe: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name subscribe list-name" mmlist_list-name-unsubscribe: "|/var/list-name/mail/list-name unsubscribe list-name" # STANZA END: list-name Yes, people can still send to mmlist_list-name(a)omnifarious.org, but I consider that an acceptable tradeoff since I'm now allowed a lot more detailed control over my omnifarious.org namespace. The parameter's name is POSTFIX_VIRTUAL_PREFIX, and it's expected to be set in the mm_cfg file. If there is no POSTFIX_VIRTUAL_PREFIX set, it defaults to being blank, which gives you the original behavior for the Postfix MTA. Have fun (if at all possible), -- The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. -- Alexander Hamilton -- Eric Hopper (hopper(a)omnifarious.org http://www.omnifarious.org/~hopper) --

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Custom subject lines for subscribeack
by John Lange 26 May '04

26 May '04

Hello Developers. I have a client that would like to customize the subject line of the subscription acknowledgement message that mailman sends out when someone successfully subscribes. We have successfully customized the lists/<listname>/en/subscribeack.txt message and it works great! However there does not appear to be any way to change the subject line of that message. I have searched the documentation, list archives, and finally the source code. I could not find anything in the documentation or the archives but the relevant lines of source code appear to be here: Deliverer.py line 75 msg = Message.UserNotification( self.GetMemberAdminEmail(name), self.GetRequestEmail(), _('Welcome to the "%(realname)s" mailing list%(digmode)s'), text, pluser) This appears to be a hard-coded subject line. :( Would there be any work-around that wouldn't effect the subject line of every list on the system? Ultimately I believe there should be two new options added to the General list information page right under "Send welcome message to newly subscribed members?" ---- Subject line of Welcome message: Welcome to the "%(realname)s" mailing list%(digmode)s Body of Welcome message: <default body text> ---- Is there any chance this is something that might make it into Mailman anytime soon? Any suggestions, hints, rants etc. are welcome. Thank you. -- John Lange BigHostBox.com (204) 885 0872

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subzero?
by Ricardo 25 May '04

25 May '04

I just got this on a new list I created... "...mailing list has -1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at:" That's kinda funny... now how am I supposed to approve -1 messages? Ricardo.

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Bug in Utils.py funtction ScriptURL()?
by Rich Geiger 25 May '04

25 May '04

> def ScriptURL(target, web_page_url=None, absolute=False): > """target - scriptname only, nothing extra > web_page_url - the list's configvar of the same name > absolute - a flag which if set, generates an absolute url > """ > if web_page_url is None: > web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % get_domain() > if web_page_url[-1] <> '/': > web_page_url = web_page_url + '/' > fullpath = os.environ.get('REQUEST_URI') > if fullpath is None: > fullpath = os.environ.get('SCRIPT_NAME', '') + \ > os.environ.get('PATH_INFO', '') > baseurl = urlparse.urlparse(web_page_url)[2] > if not absolute and fullpath.endswith(baseurl): ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > # Use relative addressing > fullpath = fullpath[len(baseurl):] > i = fullpath.find('?') > if i > 0: > count = fullpath.count('/', 0, i) > else: > count = fullpath.count('/') > path = ('../' * count) + target > else: > path = web_page_url + target > return path + mm_cfg.CGIEXT > I'm curious about the "if not absolute ..." test in the code above. Is it possible that the author really wanted if not absolute and fullpath.startswith(baseurl): ? This would seem to make more sense to me, since the test is presumably there to check whether a relative URL can be constructed. This would seemingly need the LEADING (not the TRAILING) part of "fullpath" to be "baseurl". Also given the code in the "then" clause, which apparently (and understandably) wants to strip the "baseurl" part out of "fullpath", I'd expect the startswith method to be used in the if. Finally, the entire reason I'm looking at this is that a local user complained about the link individual lists on the mailing list overview page being absolute URIs. Changing "endswith" to "startswith" does the trick... On the other hand, I'm not familiar with the mailman code, nor am I a python programmer, so perhaps I'm missing something...? TIA!, - Richard Geiger rmg(a)datadomain.com

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RELEASED Mailman 2.1.5
by Barry Warsaw 22 May '04

22 May '04

Today I am releasing Mailman 2.1.5, a bug fix release that also contains new support for the Turkish language, and a few minor new features. Mailman 2.1.5 is a significant upgrade which should improve disk i/o performance, administrative overhead for discarding held spams, and the behavior of bouncing member disables. This version also contains a fix for an exploit that could allow 3rd parties to retrieve member passwords. It is thus highly recommended that all existing sites upgrade to the latest version. The full source tarball, as well as a patch against Mailman 2.1.4 have been made available. See http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103 for links to downloads. NOTE: You will want to read the UPGRADING file for important information regarding upgrading from earlier version to Mailman 2.1.5. A number of internal file formats have changed so you must shut down web and mail access to Mailman before you upgrade. You will also want to re-run configure (i.e. config.status) before you run "make install". See also: http://www.list.org http://mailman.sf.net http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman Finally, a personal note. I have left Zope Corporation to join Secure Software, a company started by John Viega -- Mailman's original author. Although I won't be working on Mailman in any official capacity, it is exciting to be working with him and the rest of the folks there. I leave Zope Corp on a positive note and wish nothing but success for them too. You can find Secure Software on the web at http://www.securesoftware.com. Please continue to use my barry(a)python.org email address for all Mailman correspondences. I don't expect much to change for the Mailman project at all. Enjoy, -Barry 2.1.5 (15-May-2004) - The admindb page has a checkbox that allows you to discard all held messages that are marked Defer. On heavy lists with lots of spam holds, this makes clearing them much faster. - The qrunner system has changed to use only one file per message. However the configuration variable METADATA_FORMAT has been removed, and support for SAVE_MSGS_AS_PICKLES has been changed. The latter no longer writes messages as plain text. Instead, they are stored as pickles of plain strings, using the text pickle format. This still makes them non-binary files readable and editable by humans. bin/dumpdb also works differently. It will print out the entire pickle file (with more verbosity) and if used with 'python -i', it binds msg to a list of all objects found in the pickle file. Removed from Defaults.py: PENDINGDB_LOCK_TIMEOUT, PENDINGDB_LOCK_ATTEMPTS, METAFMT_MARSHAL, METAFMT_BSDDB_NATIVE, METAFMT_ASCII, METADATA_FORMAT - The bounce processor has been redesigned so that now when an address's bounce score reaches the threshold, that address will be sent a probe message. Only if the probe bounces will the address be disabled. The score is reset to zero when the probe is sent. Also, bounce events are now kept in an event file instead of in memory. This should help contain the bloat of the BounceRunner. New supporting variables in Defaults.py: VERP_PROBE_FORMAT, VERP_PROBE_REGEXP REGISTER_BOUNCES_EVERY is promoted to a Defaults.py variable. - The pending database has been changed from a global pickle file, to a unique pickle file per mailing list. - The 'request' database file has changed from a marshal, to the more secure pickle format. - Disallow multiple password retrievals. - The email package is updated to version 2.5.5. - New language: Turkish. - Bugs and patches: 869644, 869647 (NotAMemberError for old cookie data), 878087 (bug in Slovenian catalog), 899263 (ignore duplicate pending ids), 810675 (discard all defers button)

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Question for clarification about bounce management
by Somuchfun 22 May '04

22 May '04

Can one of the mailman pros on the list enlighten me about how the bounce management works in the background? Let's say the list is set to suspend a member after 3 bounces and then delete him after 3 more attempts, each 7 days apart. So lets say one member has had 3 bounces and is suspended. Now suddenly I change the list settings so it requires 5 bounces before a member is suspended. Will the list notice this during the next time it sends out emails? How does the list check the current settings of the list versus the individual status? Is there a cleanup process for members who are dormant because of changes in the list settings? Thanks for all the input on this!

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Global Pipeline question
by Kory Wheatley 22 May '04

22 May '04

I'm currently using Mailman 2.1.4 with Postfix on a Red Hat Enterprise Verison 3 workstation. I would like to use the scrubber.patch to put attachments has a viewable link in the archives, "which is working", but I also want the attachment completely stripped from the email message. Here's my problem, if I enable content filtering to strip the attachments, scrubber never puts the attachment as a link in the archives. I thought it might be a Global Pipeline issue, so I changed the sequence of the global pipeline "as shown below", and put Scrubber as the first Handler to be processed and of course put this in "mm_cfg.py" and restarted Mailman. Still, the content filtering strips the attachments like I want, but scrubber never puts the attachment as a link in the archives. Does the sequence of the Pipeline affect this process, is there a way to do what I want? Also is there documentation that shows a step by step process that a message goes through before delivery? I would love to see this, it would help me understand the process that Mailman does to prepare a message for delivery. I manage 200 lists at Idaho State Univeristy, and Mailman is a very critical application for us, which makes this task very important and in a rush to get accomplished. I would appreciate your help. GLOBAL_PIPELINE = [ # These are the modules that do tasks common to all delivery paths. 'Scrubber', 'SpamDetect', 'Approve', 'Replybot', 'Moderate', 'Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CookHeaders', # And now we send the message to the digest mbox file, and to the arch and # news queues. Runners will provide further processing of the message, # specific to those delivery paths. 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', # Now we'll do a few extra things specific to the member delivery # (outgoing) path, finally leaving the message in the outgoing queue. 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing', ] -- Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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bug in 2.1.5 - danish translation - can't unsubscribe
by Klavs Klavsen 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hi guys, When viewing the user page in danish (with 30% or less translated - I'll have a look a that at some point when I get the time) - it fails with this message (it works fine when using english): Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 239, in main loginpage(mlist, doc, user, language) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 813, in loginpage table.AddRow([_("""In order to change your membership option, you must File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py", line 89, in _ return tns % dict ValueError: unsupported format character 'p' (0x70) at index 105 Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.2.3 (#1, Jul 28 2003, 11:43:19) [GCC 3.2.2 20030322 (Gentoo Linux 1.4 3.2.2-r2)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 Environment variables: Variable Value PATH_INFO /lp-nyhedsbrev CONTENT_LENGTH 100 CONTENT_TYPE application/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_COOKIE POSTNUKESID=5241e6345df9c0303def0d4b0749ea3a SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/options PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache SERVER_ADMIN admin(a)EnableIT.dk SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/options SCRIPT_URI http://www.mysite.dk/mailman/options/lp-nyhedsbrev SERVER_SIGNATURE REQUEST_METHOD POST HTTP_HOST www.mysite.dk SCRIPT_URL /mailman/options/lp-nyhedsbrev SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING REQUEST_URI /mailman/options/lp-nyhedsbrev HTTP_ACCEPT text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040418 Firefox/0.8 HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive HTTP_REFERER http://www.mysite.dk/mailman/listinfo/lp-nyhedsbrev SERVER_NAME my site REMOTE_ADDR <client-ip-removed> HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300 REMOTE_PORT 34514 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us,en;q=0.5 PATH_TRANSLATED /www/websites/mysite/html/lp-nyhedsbrev SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip,deflate SERVER_ADDR 192.168.1.2 DOCUMENT_ROOT /www/websites -- Regards, Klavs Klavsen, GSEC - kl(a)vsen.dk - http://www.vsen.dk PGP: 7E063C62/2873 188C 968E 600D D8F8 B8DA 3D3A 0B79 7E06 3C62 "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." --Henry Spencer

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