Mailman-Developers August 2005

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Public archives
by Bob Puff＠NLE 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Hi Gang, I've got one mailing list for a customer who wants public archives. The box hosts many sites, and he wants his domain in the URL for the archives. This isn't a problem for private archives, but there doesn't seem to be a way to set the URL for public archives. I recall we hashed this one over a while ago, but was there ever a solution? Bob

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Mailman 2.X CVS MAIN is back
by Tokio Kikuchi 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Hi Developers, I've done backporting the changes in Release_2_1-maint into the MAIN branch which was not updated more than a year and this has caused confusion for the people who want to try CVS checkout. For I was a little bit tired of maintaining two branches (or of the pressure to do so) I want to check in to the MAIN branch only hereafter, although some serious security bug fix (if any) should be committed in the 2.1 branch. I believe the MAIN CVS checkout is now ready to be tested but plese let me know if you notice something. Cheers, -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/

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Bad Address Syntax
by Bob Puff＠NLE 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

One more thing: just caught this today, with the current stable release: in logs/smtp-failure: smtp-failure:Aug 28 17:28:31 2005 (1433) All recipients refused: {'randiminetor@ highfallsfilmfe...': (501, 'Bad address syntax')}, msgid: <1b89848bfc55965b74421 44bb122ad4d(a)minetor.com> smtp-failure:Aug 28 17:29:18 2005 (1433) delivery to randiminetor@highfallsfilmf e... failed with code 501: Bad address syntax I assume it is abbreviating the email address, because I am certain the sender is using the proper email address. What might be causing the error? Bob

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permissions on data/aliases* with MTA='Postfix'
by Joseph Tate 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

I've noticed that when I use a web interface to create or delete a mailing list, (CGI or my XMLRPC interface), the ownership of my data/aliases file does not change. However if I use bin/newlist or bin/rmlist as root, the ownership on data/aliases changes to root:root. bin/genaliases does not seem to modify the ownership. After the ownership has changed, the web interface is no longer able to modify this file. It should be noticed that the permissions do not change, just the ownership. Other than "don't run it as root" can someone point me in the right direction to fix this? I can see why it happens with a remove: the removal happens in a newly created .tmp file which is then renamed. For a create list operation, the error crops up during _check_for_virtual_loopaddr. There is a checkperms function, but it doesn't seem to be called by anything but bin/check_perms. -- Joseph Tate Personal e-mail: jtate AT dragonstrider DOT com Web: http://www.dragonstrider.com

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Pseudonym lists
by Hans G. Ehrbar 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

Hello, a natural extension of an anonymous list is a pseudonym list: if the user specifies a pseudonym, then the messages posted by this user carry this pseudonym in the name section of the From: field (along with the list email address). I hacked my mailman 2.1.5 installation to accept pseudonyms for all anonymous lists. The pseudnym is an additional component of UserDesc with very similar behavior as the user name. Users who subscribe through the web to an anonymous list have the option to specify a pseudonym. Please look at http://marx.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo and feel free to subscribe to the pseud and test lists and take them through the paces. I need this feature for a class in the Fall Semester and would like to iron out any bugs. This feature fits painlessly into the ordinary mailman interface, and if there is interest I would be happy to submit the code. Hans G. Ehrbar -- Hans G. Ehrbar http://www.econ.utah.edu/~ehrbar ehrbar(a)economics.utah.edu Economics Department, University of Utah (801) 581 7797 (my office) 1645 Campus Center Dr., Rm 308 (801) 581 7481 (econ office) Salt Lake City UT 84112-9300 (801) 585 5649 (FAX)

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Wishlist Request for Mailman Web Acessibility
by Laura Carlson 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

We would like to request that Web Accessibility be added to the Mailman wishlist. The Mailman user community includes an increasing number of individuals. Some have disabilities and rely on adaptive technologies. Incorporating accessibility would help increase the availability and accessibility of your software to people of all needs. It would be great to have Mailman at a minimum meet World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Web Content Accessibility Single A Guidelines[1] and adhere to Section 508[2] of the Americans with Disabilities Act. There are some simple things that can help. For instance when the end user views templates like the information page and the user specific options page they get form fields that are not accessible. Forms are a problem because the extra accessibility tags are simply not known to many developers. Forms aren't the easiest of things to use for people with disabilities. Navigating around a page with written content is one thing, hopping between form fields and inputting information is another. Because of this, it is a good idea to add a number of elements to the form. Most of culprit HTML in question is in the python code. One of the main things that needs to be done is to associate form labels explicitly with their controls. Markup for labels needs to have the <label> tag and for attribute and the corresponding input needs an id attribute. Also adding alt attributes to images, using good html heading structure, and validating [3] to W3C standards would aid accessibility. If we can be of help in this effort please let us know. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Laura Carlson and the ITSS University of Minnesota Duluth Web Team http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/about/teams.html#www [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ [2] http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm [3] http://validator.w3.org/ ___________________________________________ Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/webdesign/

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DomainKeys support
by Nadim Shaikli 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

I've noticed of late that emails sent by yahoo users that get relayed by mailman end-up without the domainkey header entry [1] and thus in various yahoo users' bulk (ie. spam) folder. Is there anything that can be done to remedy this issue ? Can a site's mailman application add a locally qualified domainkey entry header (or keep the original entry as-is) ? If so, how and/or is there a place I can read more about this (didn't see any mention in the FAQ). [1] http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Regards, - Nadim ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' object
by Ron Jarrell 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Well, it came back... I was poking around because I was having cron problems, and some jobs weren't running.. There's nothing in error, but if you run disabled by hand, you get: /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/disabled Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/cron/disabled", line 220, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/cron/disabled", line 204, in main mlist.sendNextNotification(member) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 270, in sendNextNotification msg['Subject'] = 'confirm ' + info.cookie /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/disabled Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/cron/disabled", line 220, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/cron/disabled", line 204, in main mlist.sendNextNotification(member) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 270, in sendNextNotification msg['Subject'] = 'confirm ' + info.cookie TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects It worked fine for a while.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] header_filter_rules possible bug
by Tokio Kikuchi 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hi, I think you are right! I have to make warning when checking in because this may cause incompatible behavior for already installed other patterns. :-( Iain Pople wrote: > Hi, > > I have noticed some unexpected behaviour with header_filter_rules. > > I wanted to reject messages with an empty subject line so i came up > with the following regex: > > ^subject:\s*$ > > However it wasn't working as desired. After delving around in the > SpamDetect.py code i noticed that the re.search call is not using > MULTILINE mode. So the headers are treated as one long string and ^ > would only match the beginning of the string. > > Is this the desired behaviour? To me it makes more sense that it > should use multiline mode. > > i.e.: > > --- SpamDetect.py.bak 2005-08-02 15:56:42.083270000 +1000 > +++ SpamDetect.py 2005-08-02 17:33:59.698226000 +1000 > @@ -127,7 +127,7 @@ > for pattern in patterns.splitlines(): > if pattern.startswith('#'): > continue > - if re.search(pattern, headers, re.IGNORECASE): > + if re.search(pattern, headers, re.IGNORECASE|re.MULTILINE): > if action == mm_cfg.DISCARD: > raise Errors.DiscardMessage > if action == mm_cfg.REJECT: > @@ -137,3 +137,4 @@ > hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, > HeaderMatchHold) > if action == mm_cfg.ACCEPT: > return > > -- > Iain Pople > Systems Programmer > University of Melbourne > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tkikuchi%40is.kochi-u.… > > Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > > -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/

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Mailman-Developers August 2005