Mailman 3 November 2001 - Mailman-Developers

Fix for Postfix bounces
by Bob Puff＠NLE 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

I just did some more digging (after seeing no replies to my messages here), and found this: My Postfix (022801) returns "multipart/report", not "multipart/mixed" that the bounce handlers were looking for. So in fixing this, as well as bringing in some of the code from 2.1, here is the patch I applied to my Mailman/Bouncers/Postfix.py file for 2.0.6: [root@list Bouncers]# diff Postfix.py.orig Postfix.py 30c30 < if msg.gettype() <> 'multipart/mixed': --- > if msg.gettype() <> 'multipart/report' and msg.gettype() <> 'multipart/mixed': 62c62 < pcre = re.compile(r'\t\t\tthe postfix program$', re.IGNORECASE) --- > pcre = re.compile(r'\t\t\tthe\s(bns)?\s*(postfix|keftamail)', re.IGNORECASE) Does this look ok? Bob

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My "fix" for the bounce error
by Bob Puff＠NLE 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Here's what I came up with, after reading both the messages on sourceforge and looking at the code: def process(msg): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> 'multipart/report': # then return None if msg.getparam('report-type') == None: # then return None if string.lower(msg.getparam('report-type')) <> 'delivery-status': # then return None boundary = msg.getparam('boundary') msg.fp.seek(0) (This is in /Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py) This keeps the message from clogging up Mailman, but it still doesn't handle the bounce properly. I've been getting HUNDREDS of bounces in my mailbox from this one list... Barry, are there any updates available for 2.0.6 to fix this? Bob

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Bounce error hangs Mailman
by Bob Puff＠NLE 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

I just discovered a show-stopper for Mailman 2.0.6: A user on one of my lists suddenly started bouncing messages. The bounce causes qrunner to die when it gets to that message, and stops processing files after that. Here's the python errors: Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): Traceback (most recent call last): Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 282, in ? Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): kids = main(lock) Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 252, in main Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata) Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 121, in dispose_message Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, mimemsg): Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py", line 59, in ScanMessages Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): addrs = func(msg) Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py", line 46, in process Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> 'multipart/report' or \ Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/string.py", line 54, in lower Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): return s.lower() Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): AttributeError : 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' And here's an example of a bounce coming from the offending user: Received: by main.nlenet.net (mbox bob) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Nov 4 02:46:01 2001) X-From_: postmaster(a)btconnect.com Sun Nov 4 02:45:50 2001 >From bob Sun Nov 4 02:45:50 2001 Return-Path: <postmaster(a)btconnect.com> Delivered-To: bob(a)nlenet.net Received: from c2bapps1.btconnect.com (c2bapps1.btconnect.com [193.113.209.21]) by main.nlenet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ED8D113D126 for <bob(a)nleaudio.com>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 02:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from btconnect.com by c2bapps1.btconnect.com id <g.02673-0(a)c2bapps1.btconnect.com>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0000 Message-Type: Delivery Report X400-Received: by /ADMD= /C=WW/; Relayed; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:31 +0000 X400-Received: by mta c2bapps1-hme1 in /ADMD= /C=WW/; Relayed; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:31 +0000 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/ADMD= /C=WW/;c2bapps1.b:026710:20011104074531] From: postmaster(a)btconnect.com To: bob(a)nleaudio.com Subject: Delivery Report (failure) for pr(a)allen-heath.com Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0000 Message-ID: <"c2bapps1.b:026710:20011104074531"@btconnect.com> Content-Identifier: test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; boundary="---Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 34456246710d0000 -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672 This report relates to your message: Subject: test, Message-ID: <3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com>, To: pr(a)allen-heath.com of Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:31 +0000 Your message was not delivered to: pr(a)allen-heath.com for the following reason: Diagnostic was Unable to transfer, -1 Information MTA '62.6.150.133' gives error message 5.7.1 Unable to relay for pr(a)allen-heath.com The Original Message follows: -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672 Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: x400; mta c2bapps1-hme1 in /ADMD= /C=WW/ Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0000 DSN-Gateway: dns; c2bapps1.btconnect.com X400-Conversion-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0000 Original-Envelope-Id: [/ADMD= /C=WW/;<3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com>] X400-Content-Identifier: test X400-Encoded-Info: ia5-text X400-Content-Correlator: Subject: test, Message-ID: <3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com>, To: pr(a)allen-heath.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; pr(a)allen-heath.com Final-Recipient: x400; /RFC-822=pr(a)allen-heath.com/ADMD= /C=WW/ X400-Originally-Specified-Recipient-Number: 1 Action: failed Diagnostic-Code: Reason 1 (Unable-To-Transfer); Diagnostic -1 (Unknown) Status: 5.0.0 X400-Supplementary-Info: "MTA '62.6.150.133' gives error message 5.7.1 Unable to relay for pr(a)allen-heath.com" X400-Last-Trace: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0000 -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from ns.nlenet.net by c2bapps1 with SMTP (XT-PP); Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0000 Received: from nleaudio.com (66-133-142-213.roc.frontiernet.net [66.133.142.213]) by ns.nlenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E354A770C for <pr(a)allen-heath.com>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 02:44:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 02:44:44 -0500 From: "Bob Puff@NLE" <bob(a)nleaudio.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr(a)allen-heath.com Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test, please disregard. -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672-- This was a bomb that kept me up till the wee hours tracing down. I looked through the bug reports, found something similar, but there was no fix! Yikes! This needs fixing asap! Bob

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Bounce detection
by Bob Puff＠NLE 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Hi Gang, Just got another 40+ bounces that the 2.0.6 bounce handlers didn't pick up... There was nothing in the logs during the time I got some of the bounces, yet it does pick up on others. I suspect it's a simple string matching issue. Looked in Mailman/Bouncers, but I don't immediately see the method or order of what modules are run. What is the first module called? Barry? Bob

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Password reminder via Web for non subscribed address hits a bug
by Luca Maranzano 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Hello all, I've upgraded to latest CVS this morning, and I've found the following problem: accessing via web to http://my.server.com/mailman/options/LISTNAME and inserting an email address which is *not* subscribed to LISTNAME and then pressing on the "Remind" button generates the following error: Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 145, in main mlist.MailUserPassword(user) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 85, in MailUserPassword assert self.isMember(user) AssertionError: May be a check to verify if the email is subscribed is missing? Regards, luca PS: may be we are almost ready for 2.1a4 or the first beta? Barry? :)

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mailman & roxen 1.3 webserver
by Matthias Klose 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

With CVS 20011105 and roxen 1.3 I get trying to open the "Membership-Management" tab (all other admin-tabs work fine): Bug in Mailman version 2.1a3+ We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 184, in main show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 471, in show_results form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 796, in membership_options qs = cgi.parse_qs(os.environ['QUERY_STRING']) File "/usr/lib/python2.1/UserDict.py", line 14, in __getitem__ def __getitem__(self, key): return self.data[key] KeyError: QUERY_STRING Python 2.1.1 SERVER_SOFTWARE Roxen Challenger/1.3.122-20 As a "plus", german umlauts aren't correctly displayed. But this may be a roxen problem as well ...

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(Current CVS version) cron/mailpasswds and edit HTML errors
by Daniel Buchmann 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

error in cron/mailpasswds: [mailman@testbox ~]$ cron/mailpasswds Traceback (most recent call last): File "cron/mailpasswds", line 173, in ? main() File "cron/mailpasswds", line 82, in main sitelist = MailList.MailList(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_SITE_LIST, lock=0) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 100, in __init__ self.Load() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 496, in Load raise Errors.MMUnknownListError Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError Error when editing HTML through the web interface (after creating a new list): Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py", line 118, in main ChangeHTML(mlist, cgidata, template_name, doc) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py", line 155, in ChangeHTML template_name), 'w') IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/mailman/lists/testliste/no/listinfo.html' ...because the language directory does not exist. After creating this directory (/home/mailman/lists/testliste/no) with the usual 02775 permissions, the editing works fine. -Daniel, Norwegian translator.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?
by J C Lawrence 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:36:37 -0500 James Watson <james(a)FuturisTech.net> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:23:28AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: >> Hostnames are explicitly case insensitive. Mailman flattens the >> strings prior to comparison. Example: >> >> https://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/ >> https://WwW.Kanga.Nu/lists/listinfo/ > Your browser must do the flattening. With Mozilla, the above two > urls both work for me. However, with Netscape 4.77, I get the "no > advertised lists" message when using the second url. Urk. This is bad, a bug, and needs to be fixed for 2.1. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Web Authenticfication for mailing list members outside Mailman?
by Andy Heath 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

Well, in the absence of universal support for LDAP or similar this is a good solution and one I currently do my self with Zope and lists. One way to do this is to use something external to mailman to extract the id's and and encrypt the passwords and put it on a crontab to generate the .htaccess files. A better approach would be a generic way to interface with mailman and I *believe* 2.1 mailman supports a much better (essentially pluggable if you're a programmer) security architecture - but, its not out there in a stable well- documented way that a non-pythoneer can pick up and modify yet so meanwhile doing it completely externally will save effort (not worth hacking 2.0.x when 2.1 is on the way). Happy to mail you the script I use if it helps - its not orginal - in fact its in a patch (badly named) on sourceforge. The solution works well for me (though with Zope, not apache). Hope this helps andy > I am currently running both a web site and two majordomo lists. > I would like to migrate to mailman, and at the same time make parts > of the Web site (Apache 1.3, Solaris) accessible only for members of one or more mailing lists > (you may see them as user groups). > Is there a way to reuse Mailman cookies outside the Mailman pages, or to place these pages > in a way that they are handled though Mailman security? > > An additional minus on my site is that I don't have experience with Python (yet), > I am just a Perl geek :-(. > > Any ideas are highly appreciated ... > > Best regards, > > Markus Jansen > > -- > Markus Jansen Markus.Jansen(a)ericsson.com > Senior Designer, Technical Coordinator > Ericsson Process & Application Consulting > TTM Solutions / CM Tools VH/PAC/L/TD Phone +46 8 568 61560 > Västberga Allé 36A Mobile +46 70 526 2548 > 12582 Stockholm, Sweden Fax +46 8 568 61888 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers -- andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Heath, Sheffield Hallam University participating in Ctr for Educ Tech Interoperability Stds +44 (0)114 2885738 a.k.heath(a)shu.ac.uk

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Web Authenticfication for mailing list members outside Mailman?
by Markus Jansen (PAC) 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

Hi, I am currently running both a web site and two majordomo lists. I would like to migrate to mailman, and at the same time make parts of the Web site (Apache 1.3, Solaris) accessible only for members of one or more mailing lists (you may see them as user groups). Is there a way to reuse Mailman cookies outside the Mailman pages, or to place these pages in a way that they are handled though Mailman security? An additional minus on my site is that I don't have experience with Python (yet), I am just a Perl geek :-(. Any ideas are highly appreciated ... Best regards, Markus Jansen -- Markus Jansen Markus.Jansen(a)ericsson.com Senior Designer, Technical Coordinator Ericsson Process & Application Consulting TTM Solutions / CM Tools VH/PAC/L/TD Phone +46 8 568 61560 Västberga Allé 36A Mobile +46 70 526 2548 12582 Stockholm, Sweden Fax +46 8 568 61888

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