Mailman 3 February 2001 - Mailman-Developers

print >> sys.stderr does not compile
by Fil 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Dear mailman-coders You recently changed all calls like write('(locked)', file=sys.stderr) to print >> sys.stderr, _('(locked)') but the latter will not compile on my machine. Am I missing something? Here's what I get when I call almost every program in mailman/bin: > ./withlist File "./withlist", line 128 print >> sys.stderr, _(__doc__) ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax -- Fil

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NewsRunner
by Ron Jarrell 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Needs do import syslog before using it to log...

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Ah-HAH!
by Ron Jarrell 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

I found the damn error causing tracebacks in MailList from "ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list." I was right that it was in the languages section, because that's the only place in MailList we call index. I had to unravel the language support though. While it's building the options list which will be handed off to the cgi form, it's trying to create the "pretty" names for the languages installed on that list. At line 352 we do langs = self.GetAvailableLanguages() (where self is the current MailList). GetAvailableLanguages brute force just walks the directory and looks for subdirs, by calling Utils.GetDirectories(self._full_path). If there's a subdir, it's a language. (Which means don't be creating subdirs under lists; mailman will think you've added a new language. I'm thinking the template dir should be listname/templates/language so as to avoid confusion...) If there are no subdirs, then there are no languages. langs is set to []. at line 381, in the monolithic setting of the config_info['general'] block, we have: ('preferred_language', mm_cfg.Select, (langs, map(_, map(Utils.GetLanguageDescr, langs)), langs.index(self.preferred_language)), 0, _("Default language for this list."), _("All messages not related to an specific user will be displayed in this language.")), Since self.preferred_language is forced to en on every new list, when we do the langs.index(self.preferred_language), in this scenario, well, gosh, taking an index of something not in the list is bad, since we're doing nothing to catch any possible exceptions... So the short term workaround, for me, is to make sure all the lists have en installed. Ideally the code needs to cope with a missing language cleanly. This, I guess, makes it more important for the update proc to forcibly install *something* in a new en directory for any list that doesn't have one. -Ron

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Translate Mailman to spanish
by Gustavo Olaza 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Hi! I'm going to use the Mailman software soon. Thank you!. But previously, i need to translate it to spanish. I downloaded the sources of Mailman recently from ftp.gnu.org and seek the way of do the translation in the best form, to leave this work available to other people. What i must do for this? Could anyone of you help me? Thanks again, ;-) Gustavo Olaza

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Feature request: Make bookmarks into archives work better
by Stephen Cranefield 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

I subscribe to a number of mailing lists on a site that uses mailman and I would like to be able to reference in a paper a message in the archives of one of the lists. The archives are for members only but anyone can join the list. The problem is that entering the URL for an individual message results in a login page and there is no information on that page about how to subscribe to the list. Is it possible to add a link from the log-in page for a list to the subscription page? Secondly, after a successful login, the result is the top-level archive page for the list - the URL for the individual message has been ignored. Is it possible to fix this so the actual URL that was entered is remembered? - Stephen

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Bug in mailman 2.0
by Chuq Von Rospach 17 Feb '01

17 Feb '01

Ran into a fun but in 2.0 the other day. A European user kept having his messages held in the moderator queue for not being subscribed, even though he was. Turns out his From was encoded: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=F8rgaard?= <jnp(a)anneli.dk> And mailman can't handle this, even though it's perfectly legal. It can't find the address to properly validate it as subscribed..... Chuq -- Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome <http://www.chuqui.com> [<chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> = <me(a)chuqui.com> = <chuq(a)apple.com>] Yes, yes, I've finally finished my home page. Lucky you. "He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier."

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Oh yea
by Ron Jarrell 17 Feb '01

17 Feb '01

Almost forgot - Barry, qrunner's getopt doesn't actually know what the -b argument is...

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kind of working :-).
by Ron Jarrell 17 Feb '01

17 Feb '01

I'm calling it quits for tonight, but I did manage to get a message through, after starting up the new queue runner process. Also managed to get it to blow chunks, because I created a list, then deleted it, before queuerunner managed to deliver the notice to the owner. It wasn't happy. Haven't looked at the code yet.. Feb 16 22:58:25 2001 (9814) qrunner watchdog detected subprocess exit (pid: 9823, sig: 0, sts: 1, class: Mailman.Queue.VirginRunner.VirginRunner, slice 0 of 1) restarting Feb 16 22:58:25 2001 (9824) error opening list: test2 Feb 16 22:58:25 2001 (9824) Uncaught runner exception: There is no variable name d 'filebase' Feb 16 22:58:25 2001 (9824) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 92, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 118, in __onefile 'Dequeuing message destined for missing list: %s' % NameError: There is no variable named 'filebase'

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newlang
by Ron Jarrell 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

Oh, yea... newlang just never unlocks the list. Period. Not just when there's an error.

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core with intl language setups
by hypnose＠t-online.de 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

Hi, Barry, hi all, pretty new to the list. Great program - thanks for all the work. Question of understanding: where is the "bingo" in language diffs ? I mean: the text of the admin pages, which remains in English if I translate all the "templates", is it hard-coded in python (someone on the intl.-list told me) or is it to be found somewhere in the mailman-files (.py or whereever) ? guenter >I'm not sure I want to ship other languages with the base Mailman >distro. There are three reasons. First, the language catalogs will >increase the size of the distro, although it that may not be big >enough to matter. Second, and more important, is that the language >catalogs may have a different release schedule than the core system. >I.e. new languages will be donated and existing languages will be >updated on the translator's time frame. I'd like to not tie language >specifics to the core system. Third, I think very few sites are going >to need all the available languages. I can certainly see that many >sites will need one, perhaps two languages, but not all. > >I'm not 100% on this though, so convincing arguments are welcome! But >right now I see shipping the core Mailman distro with English support >only, but making it extremely simple to download and install a new >language. > >-Barry > > guenter wessling (hypnose(a)t-online.de)

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