Mailman 3 March 2001 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman password and administrative reminders
by Dan Mick Aug. 14, 2003

Aug. 14, 2003

? This very message came to me with the following header: Errors-To: mailman-developers-admin(a)python.org All my bounces come to the list admin address, set in the admin webpage, in the second field of General Options. Do you have that set to something, and bounces still come to root? > 2. Bounces are sent to the poor postmaster instead of a -admin address. > I'm not entirely certain, but I think an Errors-To: header or something > like that in all Mailman messages might allow one to distribute that load > somewhat.

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Headers and footers for MIME messages
by barry＠digicool.com April 3, 2001

April 3, 2001

I've got a bit of a dilemma that I'd like to get your opinion on. In MM2.1, I can be more sane about adding headers and footers to messages that flow through a list, especially when it comes to MIME messages. Here are the cases I've identified: 1. A message comes in that is either text/plain or has no Content-Type. In that case, I can just textually prepend any header and append any footer. This is essentially what MM2.0.x does for all messages. 2. A message comes in that's multipart/mixed. That's easy too, since we can just add the header and footers as additional text/plain subparts. 3. A message comes in that has some other main Content-Type than "multipart", e.g. image/gif. This is a little tricker, but what I think you can do is transform the container message into a multipart/mixed, add the header and footers as subparts, and create a new subpart for the original message payload. You'd need to copy the body of the original message, plus any Content-* headers, into the subpart, but I think you leave all other headers in the container alone. 4. A message comes in that is multipart/* but not multipart/mixed. What to do here? I suppose we could play the same trick as #3, but it seems like an awful lot of work and potentially error prone. Maybe not though. Alternatively, we could add the header and footer to any existing preamble and epilogue, although they'll get hidden by most MIME-aware MUAs. Or we could simply not add headers and footers for #3 and/or #4. Let's assume for the moment <wink> that MM2.1 will have facilities to hold, discard, chop apart, etc. MIME messages and that we're talking about messages that are allowed to go though the list untouched. Any other suggestions? Any preferences? -Barry

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Problem with mailman-2.1a1, syntax error in bin/update : print >> sys.stderr ...
by Patrick Timmons April 1, 2001

April 1, 2001

Hi. This is the error I get when I try to do a ./configure of mailman-2.1a1: Compiling /home/mailm21/Mailman/versions.py ... File "bin/update", line 81 print >> sys.stderr, 'Fixing language templates:', mlist.internal_name() ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax File "bin/check_perms", line 96 arg.ERRORS += 1 ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax I tried with python 2.0 and python 2.1b1 and same result. Here is how I made python 2.0: ./configure make make test make altinstall I installed mimelib 0.2 downloaded over the weekend: python2.0 setup.py install And verified the install as per the doc I tried to install mailman-2.1a1 (downloaded today) with: ./configure --prefix=/home/mailm21 --with-username=mailm21 --with-groupname=mailm21 --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python2.0 --with-mail-gid=daemon I tried with and without PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/python2.0 I'm on Linux. -- Patrick Timmons, service informatique

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Per-user monthly password reminders [Patch]
by Tollef Fog Heen March 29, 2001

March 29, 2001

This is a patch against 2.0.3 to enable per-user monthly password reminders. This is a _very_ sought-after feature request from the Debian community. :) As I don't have CVS access, I'd appreciate if somebody could review and apply. Thanks. :) --- mailman-2.0.3.orig/Mailman/Defaults.py.in +++ mailman-2.0.3/Mailman/Defaults.py.in @@ -531,6 +531,7 @@ AcknowledgePosts = 4 DisableMime = 8 # Digesters only ConcealSubscription = 16 +PasswordReminder = 32 # Useful directories LIST_DATA_DIR = os.path.join(VAR_PREFIX, 'lists') --- mailman-2.0.3.orig/Mailman/Cgi/options.py +++ mailman-2.0.3/Mailman/Cgi/options.py @@ -113,6 +113,11 @@ 'setdigest', 'Submit My Changes') replacements['<mm-unsubscribe-button>'] = ( mlist.FormatButton('unsub', 'Unsubscribe')) + replacements['<mm-get-password-reminder-button>'] = mlist.FormatOptionButton( + mm_cfg.PasswordReminder, 1, user) + replacements['<mm-no-password-reminder-button>'] = mlist.FormatOptionButton( + mm_cfg.PasswordReminder, 0, user) + replacements['<mm-digest-pw-box>'] = mlist.FormatSecureBox('digpw') replacements['<mm-unsub-pw-box>'] = mlist.FormatSecureBox('upw') replacements['<mm-old-pw-box>'] = mlist.FormatSecureBox('opw') --- mailman-2.0.3.orig/Mailman/Cgi/handle_opts.py +++ mailman-2.0.3/Mailman/Cgi/handle_opts.py @@ -222,6 +222,7 @@ dont_receive = getval('dontreceive', useropt(user, mm_cfg.DontReceiveOwnPosts)) ack_posts = getval('ackposts', useropt(user, mm_cfg.AcknowledgePosts)) + remind_pass = getval('remindpass', useropt(user, mm_cfg.PasswordReminder)) disable_mail = getval('disablemail', useropt(user, mm_cfg.DisableDelivery)) conceal = getval('conceal', useropt(user, mm_cfg.ConcealSubscription)) @@ -260,6 +261,7 @@ mlist.SetUserOption(user, mm_cfg.DisableDelivery, disable_mail) mlist.SetUserOption(user, mm_cfg.DontReceiveOwnPosts, dont_receive) mlist.SetUserOption(user, mm_cfg.AcknowledgePosts, ack_posts) + mlist.SetUserOption(user, mm_cfg.PasswordReminder, remind_pass) mlist.SetUserOption(user, mm_cfg.DisableMime, mime) msg = 'You have successfully set your options.' try: --- mailman-2.0.3.orig/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py +++ mailman-2.0.3/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py @@ -120,7 +120,8 @@ mm_cfg.DisableMime : "mime", mm_cfg.AcknowledgePosts : "ackposts", mm_cfg.Digests : "digest", - mm_cfg.ConcealSubscription : "conceal" + mm_cfg.ConcealSubscription : "conceal", + mm_cfg.PasswordReminder : "remindpass", }[type] import sys return ('<input type=radio name="%s" value="%d"%s>' --- mailman-2.0.3.orig/templates/options.html +++ mailman-2.0.3/templates/options.html @@ -139,6 +139,11 @@ <MM-Hide-Subscription-Button> Yes <p> </td></tr> <tr><TD BGCOLOR="#dcdcdc"> +<strong> Get monthly password reminders? </strong><br> +<MM-Get-Password-Reminder-Button> Yes +<MM-No-Password-Reminder-Button> No <p> +</td></tr> +<tr><TD BGCOLOR="#dcdcdc"> Password: <MM-Digest-Pw-Box> <MM-Digest-Submit><p> </td></tr></table> </center> -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

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feature request: list activity indicators
by Matthew Arnison March 28, 2001

March 28, 2001

hi folks i think a great feature for mailman would be some indication of how busy a list on the web page showing all the lists. (e.g. this page: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo) e.g. 15 messages a day, or 3 messages a week, or 2 messages a month (averaged over the past month) this would listed as a new column between the name of the list and the one-line description. i don't know anything about the internals of mailman, but i think it would be really useful info for people to know. cheers, matthew.

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Patch for making digest_arch a bit less stupid
by Tollef Fog Heen March 26, 2001

March 26, 2001

I am applying the following patch to the debian package of mailman unless somebody screams loudly. It will close debian bug #59359 ( http://www.debian.org/59359 ). --- bin/digest_arch~ Tue Mar 21 07:26:18 2000 +++ bin/digest_arch Sat Mar 24 01:14:51 2001 @@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ last_dow = days_of_week.index(dow) if len(year) == 2: - year = '19' + year + year = 1900 + year # some MUAs are stupid outfile.write("From %s %s %s %s %s %s\n" % (From, dow, mon, day, time, year)) # print "From %s %s %s %s %s %s" % (From, dow, mon, day, time, year) -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

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sending mail has wrong domain - FIXED
by Clifton Grimm March 24, 2001

March 24, 2001

Hello all Well, never mind. :) I have solved my problem with just about 2 hours work - For those who are interested on how to fix this problem: 1. Read suggestions at list.org 2. Uninstall sendmail 3. Read instructions for postfix 4. Download and install postfix 5. Migrate virtual hosts 6. Have a restful night. I have been fighting sendmail for 2 weeks now...and in 2 hours, I'm happy and done. RTFM for sure.... Clifton Grimm

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sending mail has wrong domain
by Clifton Grimm March 24, 2001

March 24, 2001

Hello all - I have tried to do everything I can think of to fix this one, so I throw it out to you all... I have a machine running RH7 and sendmail (default install). I have 2 domain names assoc. with the box: let's say: foo.com and bar.com foo.com is the hostname I used to setup the box - and there are users with email accounts on foo.com that can use the system no problem, POP and locally - all mail is delivered fine, and all headers are correct. bar.com is a virtual host - the machine responds to it, apache is setup to listen to it, and sendmail responds just fine as well. I have a list on bar.com, setup in its own directory, and the list(a)bar.com list delivers mail to its recipients with no problem. BUT: list(a)bar.com sends mail that has headers saying the sender is list-admin(a)foo.com. If an admin request goes thru, the from is list-request(a)foo.com. If I look into the headers, I see that the sendmail requests were initiated by mailman (which is correct) but at foo.com, not at bar.com. I think this may have something to do with those headers getting written incorrectly. I had a VERY similar setup on a RH6 system (actually the same box before the catastrophic HD crash) and it delivered mail with no incorrect headers. I just can't seem to remember what was different about my setup. In summation: 2 domains, list mail gets delivered as wrong domain sender - right user alias, wrong domain. Hmmm. Help? Thanks in advance. Clifton Grimm ckgrimm(a)qx.net

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Server's list change
by efernandezor＠antena3tv.es March 23, 2001

March 23, 2001

Hi again. Sorry, I want to know how change one list of machine, but I don't want to put all users again. I want to change the list and the list's users at time. Do you know ?? Thanks very much.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wildly OT - qmail and mangling (was: mailman and the web)
by J C Lawrence March 22, 2001

March 22, 2001

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:38:35 -0500 Jay R Ashworth <jra(a)baylink.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 08:36:26PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: >> > Typical djb mistake. >> >> While he reinvented common practice (a definite DJB-ism) he >> hardly violated any standard -- +-addressing is still mostly >> larval. > Really? I've seen it for *years*. Similarly. Its penetration in terms of actual use has been damned small to near non-existant up until about 15 months ago however. Thus, on account of lacking critical mass, I account it larval. >> Every MTA I'm aware of that supports +-addressing mandates having >> the extension character set as part of the feature configuration. > Do that again? I fell off. 1) There are MTAs which either directly or through patch support what I'll loosely call +-addressing. 2) For each of those MTAs configuring +-addressing requires that you explicitly define the character to be used in segmenting the address. 3) None of these MTAs per se has a default +-addressing character from which the config may specify a deviation. Instead, the +-addressing character must be explicitly stated as part of the feature enebling. >> I've seen both '-' and '+' commonly used over tha last decade ro >> so outside of DJB circles. IIRC the early Sendmail patches for >> +-addressing used '-' by default until enough people yelled at >> Eric that it was too confusing and tended to screw up their other >> scripts. > I see. Quite. >>> Tampa Bay, Florida http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 804 5015 >> >> Do Tim et al still do the Weds night/Sunday brunch meets? > Oh. Hey, Carnage. I wouldn't begin to know. I've seen Tim once > in the last 6 years, at a SLUG meeting. He saw me, and hasn't > been going to those meetings since. I heard rumours for a while (semi-regularly exchange mail with Wilson and a couple old messages with Beach). I ran into Tim via email a few years back ('98?) who AIR wrote something quite ambiguous and then didn't reply further. I haven't been back to FL since 97 -- am a little curious. -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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