Mailman 3 July 2001 - Mailman-Developers

Clean output with bin/withlist??
by Scott Brown 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

How do I __cleanly__ get the "prefered domain" that is associated with a given list? I'm sure this is possible with the "withlist"... and it's the "host_name" attribute I want (isnt it??) .... which if I understand the docs is a member of the "m" collection (is that the right name under Python??) My question is how do I actually extract that (preferably as a one liner without a pile of other output, such that I can pull it into a perl script and use it without a lot of additional processing) My first attempt was [root@apollo /home/mailman]# echo "m.host_name" | python -i /home/mailman/bin/withlist test2 Loading list: test2 (unlocked) >>> 'apollo.host-ops.com' >>> Finalizing [root@apollo /home/mailman]# But there's all that other crap that I'd prefer not to get, so that I dont have to parse it out.... Anyone got any ideas??

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Memory error when running arch
by James Madill 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Last night, when running arch against one of the mailing lists on my Mailman server, the following error was displayed on the terminal: Updating HTML for article 12815 Updating HTML for article 12816 Updating HTML for article 12817 Traceback (most recent call last): File "./arch", line 129, in ? main() File "./arch", line 119, in main archiver.close() File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in close self.update_dirty_archives() File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 949, in update_dirty_archives self.__super_update_dirty_archives() File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 513, in update_dirty_archives self.update_archive(i) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 952, in update_archive self.__super_update_archive(archive) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 422, in update_archive self._update_thread_index(archive, arcdir) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 479, in _update_thread_index self.update_article(arcdir, article, a1, a3) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1115, in update_article f.write(article.as_html()) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 298, in as_html return self.html_tmpl % d MemoryError $ When I reran it this morning after checking the OS for errors, the same problem occured: Updating HTML for article 12490 Updating HTML for article 12491 Updating HTML for article 12492 Updating index files for archive [2001-February] Date no mem for new parser Traceback (most recent call last): File "./arch", line 129, in ? main() File "./arch", line 119, in main archiver.close() File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 304, in close self.update_dirty_archives() File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 949, in update_dirty_archives self.__super_update_dirty_archives() File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 513, in update_dirty_archives self.update_archive(i) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 952, in update_archive self.__super_update_archive(archive) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 420, in update_archive self._update_simple_index(hdr, archive, arcdir) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 437, in _update_simple_index article = self.database.getArticle(self.archive, msgid) File "/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py", line 279, in getArticle article = self.__cache[msgid] = pickle.loads(buf) MemoryError $ The three cron jobs also appeared to fail today as well: Your "cron" job on arachnia /usr/local/bin/python -S /mailman/cron/qrunner produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 85, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 43, in ? from Mailman.MailCommandHandler import MailCommandHandler MemoryError -- Your "cron" job on arachnia /usr/local/bin/python -S /mailman/cron/gate_news produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 40, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 44, in ? from Mailman.HTMLFormatter import HTMLFormatter File "/mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py", line 27, in ? from Mailman.htmlformat import * MemoryError -- Your "cron" job on arachnia /usr/local/bin/python -S /mailman/cron/senddigests produced the following output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 65, in ? main() File "/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 42, in main send_list_digest(mlist) File "/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 46, in send_list_digest mlist.Lock() File "/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1343, in Lock self.Load() File "/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 903, in Load raise Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError, e Mailman.Errors.MMCorruptListDatabaseError: bad marshal data The machine is a Solaris 7 box with 256Meg of RAM Mailman version is 2.0.6 Python version is 2.1 The list in question has about 16,000 archived messages arch has no problem running against lists with fewer messages in the archives. It looks like the arch script might be overflowing some kind of Python memory buffer. Any ideas, solutions? -- James o o o o o o o . . . _______________________ _______=======_T___ o _____ |James Madill | |Duke Univ Med Ctr| >.][__n_n_| D[ ====|____ |james.madill(a)duke.edu| | (919) 286-6384 | (________|__|_[____/____]_|_____________________|_|_________________| _/oo O-O-O ` oo oo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- <http://www.duke.edu/~madil001/>

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM2.1a2 integration with Sendmail
by J C Lawrence 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:15:10 -0400 Ron Jarrell <jarrell(a)vt.edu> wrote: > Yes, you could do some handwaving with psuedo hosts. But, if > you're mixing lists and people, how are you going to tell which > are which without keeping a list of them somewhere? At that > point, /etc/aliases isn't a bad way to go... Unless all your > lists have a particular pattern (i.e. they're *all* something-l) There are easier ways to go. If .../lists/<listname>/config.db exists its a moderately safe bet that a Mailman list "listname" exists and that therefore all the matching addresses also (should) exist with appropriate rewrites. Many use exactly this algorithm under various MTAs to run without any list specific alias files. -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] What are your mnogosearch indexer.conf Server/Realm parameters?
by J C Lawrence 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:18:43 -0400 James Madill <James.Madill(a)duke.edu> wrote: > What are you using to index your archives for searching? I use MHonArc as an external archiver and then appropriately set the META INDEX headers such that mnogosearch indexes the messages and not the indexes. -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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and interesting loop
by Mentor Cana 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

I've been running mailman since v 1.1rc1 (or something similar). Until today (v2.0.6), I had not seen the following scenario: A messages was sent out on one of the lists. The message was a bit large (about 300k). There are three e-mail addresses listed as admin for this list. Now, it just happened that one of the admin e-mail addresses was out of disk space so there was a bounce back to the -admin address, which was going back to the same admin.... and a loop got started.... Is this the expected behavior in this scenario or perhaps is the result of a broken/misconfigured smtp server? The loop stopped as soon as I removed the questionable address as an admin for that list. -- Mentor

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What are your mnogosearch indexer.conf Server/Realm parameters?
by James Madill 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

I am trying to configure mnogosearch to index only the individual messages in the archives, both public and private. I can use: Server http://xxxxxx.duke.edu/ to index standard web pages and Server http://xxxxxx.duke.edu/pipermail/ file:/mailman/archives/public/ to generate an index for *all* of the files in the Mailman public archives. My attempts at using Realm to index just the individual messages has failed Realm Regex ^http://xxxxxx.duke.edu/pipermail/.*/[0-9]\.html Realm Regex ^http://xxxxxx.duke.edu/pipermail/.*/[0-9]\.html file:/mailman/archives/public/.*/[0-9]\.html Realm Regex ^http://xxxxxx.duke.edu/pipermail/ indexer does not seem to recognize any of them. What are you using to index your archives for searching? -- James o o o o o o o . . . _______________________ _______=======_T___ o _____ |James Madill | |Duke Univ Med Ctr| >.][__n_n_| D[ ====|____ |james.madill(a)duke.edu| | (919) 286-6384 | (________|__|_[____/____]_|_____________________|_|_________________| _/oo O-O-O ` oo oo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- <http://www.duke.edu/~madil001/>

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multipart/mixed error
by Georg Koch 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

The attached message is a multipart/mixed containing 2 parts. But when I send it to the test list, I get a message containing 3 parts - there is a new empty part text/plain charset=us-ascii in front. But if I add a blank in the header like this, < Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0FFD9.6A425B60" --- > Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0FFD9.6A425B60" and send it: it is only 2 parts again. Several people using my mailman use Microsoft exchange server, which sends it the "wrong" way. For them the message looks like an empty message, with a "message" as attachment. Can it be fixed? Best wishes Georg -- Georg Koch ( mailto:gorg@cochrane.de ) | Phone: +49 761 203 6710 German Cochrane Centre | Fax: +49 761 203 6712 Mail: Institute of Medical Biometry and Medical Informatics Stefan-Meier-Strasse 26, D-79104 Freiburg, Germany ...................................................................... Crossing the Quality Chasm: A New Health System for the 21st Century http://www.nap.edu/books/0309072808/html/

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sync_members error
by Georg Koch 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Dear Developers, When I tried to update using "cvs update", "make install" the update would not finish because of missing files or directories ( I think it was no/... and ja/...). Therefore I did a "cvs co mailman" into a new directory and installed that into a new directory (config --with-cgi-gid=nobody; make; make install; check_perms -f). I made a new test-list and now wanted to populate it with the old members and got: > sync_members -f /usr/local/mailman.old/test.members test Traceback (most recent call last): File "sync_members", line 250, in ? main() File "sync_members", line 184, in main filemembers = Utils.ParseAddrs(filemembers) AttributeError: 'Mailman.Utils' module has no attribute 'ParseAddrs' What am I doing wrong? I am using python 2.1 with mimelib 0.4. Many thanks Georg Koch -- -- Georg Koch ( mailto:gorg@cochrane.de ) | Phone: +49 761 203 6710 German Cochrane Centre | Fax: +49 761 203 6712 Mail: Institute of Medical Biometry and Medical Informatics Stefan-Meier-Strasse 26, D-79104 Freiburg, Germany ...................................................................... Crossing the Quality Chasm: A New Health System for the 21st Century http://www.nap.edu/books/0309072808/html/ -- -- Georg Koch ( mailto:gorg@cochrane.de ) | Phone: +49 761 203 6710 German Cochrane Centre | Fax: +49 761 203 6712 Mail: Institute of Medical Biometry and Medical Informatics Stefan-Meier-Strasse 26, D-79104 Freiburg, Germany ...................................................................... Crossing the Quality Chasm: A New Health System for the 21st Century http://www.nap.edu/books/0309072808/html/

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New confirm screens
by barry＠zope.com 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

I've finally implemented the new confirmation screens as suggested by Thomas and urged by Gerald. I'm fairly happy with the subscription confirmation screen because it allows you to override certain fields you entered in the initial subscription request. The change of address and unsubscribe confirmation pages are less helpful, but I suppose it is nice to be able to see what Mailman thinks it's going to do when you confirm, so those are probably improvements too. Hopefully there will be time to add a few more things to the confirmation process. CVS should be (relatively) stable now. -Barry

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MM2.1a2 integration with Sendmail
by Scott Brown 29 Jul '01

29 Jul '01

Ok - on my test box I'm up to Python 2.01, and have MM2.1a2 installed (from the tarball... fresh copy today, but of course it may not be the most recent code from the CVS) In the README.SENDMAIL there is a section on a contrib piece that will make it possible to get away without updating the /etc/aliases and running newaliases all the time. I wanted to try it - but the mm-handler script is not in the contrib directory as the README.SENDMAIL suggests it should be. I checked the CVS, and same there... there's a qmail-to-mailman.py there, but nothing sendmail-ish... And of course, without an author's email addy listed in the README.SENDMAIL, it's difficult to contact the author directly. Anyone know where I can find it?

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