Mailman 3 March 2002 - Mailman-Developers

moderation...
by Ron Jarrell 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

You know, it just occured to me, that under the new model, I can't figure out how to let my list admins do something they used to be able to do... I have a list that's normally unmoderated, posting by subscriber only. Every now and then things get too heated, and the list owner steps in and flips the moderate switch until people play nice again. Under the new rules, to do that, the only way I see for him to do that is to go in and click "moderate" next to each of 300 names... Or he has to call me and I try to whip up a little python proc to run under withlist to flip everyone's bits... Did I miss something? (Yes, I followed the discussions, but this particular regular even just didn't register at the time...)

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another idea to limit disk usage
by Fil 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Another idea to limit disk usage: shouldn't the "mail/mailman bounces listname" cut the messages it receives 10 lines or so after any "Errors-To: listname.*" line it encounters ? You wouldn't lose interesting data I guess... -- Fil

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On irc tomorrow
by barry＠zope.com 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

I plan on getting the finishing touches on MM2.1b1 tomorrow, hopefully with a release toward the end of the day. I also plan on spending time on irc.openprojects.net #mailman tomorrow, so if you want to talk about the state of MM2.1, please feel free to join me there by around 10-11am EST. -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-i18n] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Bug in Chinese language selections and options page?
by Dan Mick 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

> I am native Chinese speaker, and I have installed mailman-2.0.8 English > version successfully on my > computer, and I want to help building Chinese templates, what should I do > then? 2.1 is the release with multi-lingual support. To help out, subscribe to mailman-i18n(a)python.org (see http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-i18n) and volunteer; I'm sure your help would be appreciated.

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bin/withlist: -i default, remove switch?
by Dan Mick 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

It occurs to me that "bin/withlist <listname>" is pretty useless (what you almost-certainly want is "bin/withlist -i listname"). Would it be reasonable to make -i the default (and thus remove the switch)?

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too much translation?
by Fil 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Is it not a bit too much to translate the log files? Log analyzers would have to be more complex... ==> /home/mailman/logs/subscribe <== Mar 14 11:49:35 2002 (27832) menteur: deleted xxxxx(a)hotmail.com; Par la page des options des abonnés -- Fil

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feature freeze / release timeline?
by Bill Bradford 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Any idea on a feature freeze /release timeline for 2.1? Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Re: BounceRunner eating up alot of memory
by Fil 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

Barry, you commited the CACHELISTS changes to cvs, with the following comment: "Modified Files: BounceRunner.py OutgoingRunner.py Runner.py Log Message: __init__(): Remove cachelists from the constructor arguments. We can more conveniently use a class attribute to specify this. On the BounceRunner, turn off MailList object caching so that it'll be more friendly to long-term memory use." However the BounceRunner still grows to about 80Mb on my system, after processing bounces from several lists. Maybe this is related to the other error (mentioned below), which prevents your latest corrections from working? The error is : File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 344, in setBounceInfo assert self.__mlist.Locked() AssertionError >From what I understand the list is not locked any more (thanks to recent corrections), so entering a bounce info breaks the BounceRunner? -- Fil

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Is there a stupid Python trick to save me?
by Dan Mick 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

> For the IncomingRunner, it should be easy. Create a subclass of > IncomingRunner, and override the _get_pipeline() method. Then > override the QRUNNERS variable in your mm_cfg.py to use your new > subclass rather than IncomingRunner. Again, untested, but a bit > easier to do, and much safer on the brain the above two half-baked > ideas. Well, if I wanted to hack the code, lots of things would be easy... but I was thinking of "some codified thing that lets an admin do customization things" rather than "unsupported code hacks". I was probing whether or not others thought there was a need; primarily you. If we're talking about custom pipeline modules, we're talking about Python coders, so that's not a horrible thing, but: since modules are already so separate, it would be useful, perhaps, to have some sort of "insert this into the pipeline" mechanism that is also separate and robust wrt changes like GLOBAL_PIPELINE changes. I suppose subclassing isn't so bad, but it's a bit heavier mechanism than I was thinking...but that may just be a function of me thinking like a procedural programmer. :)

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Upgrading from mailman-2.0.8 to mailman-2.1a4
by Kory Wheatley 14 Mar '02

14 Mar '02

I recently tried to upgrade from mailman-2.0.8 to mailman-2.1a4 , ( I have python 2.2 installed on Red Hat 7.2 ) I received this error below. I'm not too efficient in debugging Python code yet. Can you recognize the problem? Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 47, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 58, in? from Mailman.SecurityManager import SecurityManager File "/home/mailman/Maillman/SecurityManager.py", line 62, in ? from Cookie import SimpleCookie as Cookie ImportError: cannot import name SimpleCookie make: *** [update] Error 1 Thanks for your help in advance. Kory Wheatley Computing & Communication Idaho State University

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