Mailman 3 April 2002 - Mailman-Developers

Web_page_url change
by Kory Wheatley 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

We are going to be changing the name of our Host Name on our Red Hat Linux box that Mailman 2.0.8 is running on. I would like to change all the lists and configuration for mailman over to this new Host Name. I don't want to setup a CNAME in DNS to keep the old Host Name accessible. What steps are involved in accomplishing this task. I know you use the "withlist" with the command below. python -i bin/withlist -l mylist >>>m.web_page_url 'http://newname.com' >>>m.Save() >>>^D -- ######################################### Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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I/O error in Runner.py when archiving under 2.1a3
by Ellen Spertus 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

A mailing list of mine works except for archiving. Whenever a message is processed, the following error shows up in Mailman's error log: Apr 17 09:29:47 2002 (1253) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 5] Input/output error Apr 17 09:29:47 2002 (1253) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 104, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 152, in __onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 70, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 187, in ArchiveMail traceback.print_exc() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/traceback.py", line 210, in print_exc print_exception(etype, value, tb, limit, file) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/traceback.py", line 122, in print_exception _print(file, 'Traceback (most recent call last):') File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/traceback.py", line 13, in _print file.write(str+terminator) IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error I am using 2.1a3 on Redhat. As far as I can tell, the permissions under /usr/local/mailman/archives/private are correct. Root and mailman have r/w access to everything. When I manually run "./arch sys /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/sys.mbox/sys.mbox" as either root or mailman, the archives are correctly generated. Any suggestions? Thank you. Ellen

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Re: CVS branches?
by Marc MERLIN 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

[moved to mailman-developers] On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 05:52:30PM -0700, Ellen Spertus wrote: > I could use some advice here. I took a snapshot because I'm making a lot > of my own changes to the code, i.e., adding dynamic sublists. My Yeah, I know about that problem :-) > short-term goal is to do a user test real soon. My long term goal is for > the changes to be incorporated into Mailman. Barry and I had a discussion by mail about this recently. Basically he has his day job, his real life [tm] and he pretty much maintains mailman by himself, which in other words means he sometimes/often has limited bandwidth. On one side, reviewing other people's code for correctness, and to check whether they really merge right with his grand scheme of things wrt where the code is going to go, takes time. On the other side, he's trying hard to get mm 2.1 out, which obviously should be a higher priority than adding code at this time. Either way, some people will get a bit disappointed, you can't fully win :-) Once 2.1 gets out, we can all release our own patches against it, but I'm hoping it's not going to be like the linux kernel where people now have to deal with applying multiple patches from outside the main distro, possibly with conflicts, or with bugs that they may report as bugs in mailman when the bug is really a bug with the patch Ideally patches that would be of interest to many would go in the main distribution, but I don't think that much more new code is going to hit mailman before the 2.2 cvs branch opens. I've however asked Barry if he would consider code that is reasonably confined (either in the code, or because it can be globally enabled/disabled in Defaults.py). To be fair my mail was much longer than that and probably requires some heavier thinking, making a policy decision, and setting a precedent, so he's still thinking about it :-) My guess is that really specific code that wouldn't get used by many people should probably remain as patches, which won't be as big a problem since less people will have to apply that code, and you're also lesss likely to have to apply two patches like that and work out the conflicts. What makes a patch fit for inclusion in mainstream, or too specific, that's left for the maintainer to decide :-) > It seems my choices are: > - working from a snapshot (what I've been doing) > - getting my own CVS branch I've been working from CVS and moving my patches from time to time, even though it's time consuming, because many bugs got fixed in CVS > Would you be willing to create a CVS branch for me (call it "mills") that > I can write my changes to, merging in fixes from the main branch? (I am > NOT asking for write permission to the main branch.) Or perhaps you could > suggest a better mechanism. That's a call for Barry to make, I'm just a user and contributer, but I have no CVS access (well, none that I'm supposed to have at least :-D) I don't know how much branches help if they diverge, but if it's a temoparary branch that merges eventually, that could work. Again, Barry's call, and remember that most of his energy is into getting mm 2.1 out :-) Cheers, Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | Finger marc_f(a)merlins.org for PGP key

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messed up headers
by Ron Jarrell 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

Ok, the second occurence of this just happened. Mailman stuffed the entire header into the body of the message, and the message started with a glob of text that looked like: <3CC18918.AFF46174(a)pointecom.net><007f01c1e889$52607020$d9ea79a5@VirginiaGrafton> <012b01c1e88c$6bd6f6c0$8900a8c0(a)carolina.rr.com> Now, those look like message ids that were probably on the list before (at least, they're all from systems that would have posted to that list.) Does outlook express have a habit of doing a news-like "References" style header, like an in-reply-to or something, that collects messageid after message id? Because both times this happened, the message started with a blob of message ids. I wonder if the parser is blowing up on too many continuation headers?

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Request mail time zone
by Jon Parise 20 Apr '02

20 Apr '02

Is there a reason why the timezone for request messages is always +0000? It seems reasonable to honor the time zone of machine. -- Jon Parise (jon(a)csh.rit.edu) . Information Technology (2001) http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Stripping binaries attachments
by Gian Franco Baroni 20 Apr '02

20 Apr '02

>>> Dan Mick <dmick(a)utopia.West.Sun.COM> 16/04/02 19.31.31 >>> >>Yes, first, ask on mailman-users. Sorry, I sent the mail to wrong list... Shame on me :( >>Second, see FAQ entry 1.8. Read, but I'm using 2.1a4 and I'm not sure if all the hints cover that version. Thanks GFB

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2.1b1 AttributeError message
by Sarah K. Miller 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Another recurring error from my log. I can't find anything similar in the developers or users archives. Any insights? Apr 16 17:06:17 2002 admin(21330): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(21330): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1b1 -----] admin(21330): [----- Traceback ------] admin(21330): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 82, in run_main admin(21330): main() admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 160, in main admin(21330): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 718, in process_form admin(21330): preserve, forward, forwardaddr) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 175, in HandleRequest admin(21330): forward, addr) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 311, in __handlepost admin(21330): copy, lang) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 158, in __init__ admin(21330): self.set_payload(text, charset) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 160, in set_payload admin(21330): self.set_charset(charset) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py", line 198, in set_charset admin(21330): cte(self) admin(21330): File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Encoders.py", line 75, in encode_7or8bit admin(21330): orig.encode('ascii') admin(21330): AttributeError: Message instance has no attribute 'encode' -- Sarah Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Stripping binaries attachments
by Dan Mick 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

> >>>>> "DM" == Dan Mick <dmick(a)utopia.west.sun.com> writes: > > DM> For the question of HTML stripping, I think Mailman 2.1 only > DM> provides "archive stripping" by default. I use, and am happy > DM> with, demime. > > Heh, I guess this was a stealth checkin. MM2.1b2 will support > "content filtering", essentially what I think demime does as an > add-on. Les Niles supplied the basic code, which I modified. It > filters on specified MIME type, optionally converts text/html to > text/plain, etc. I thought I remembered this, but a casual glance didn't find the code. Now I see it, in MimeDel.py. And now I must try it. If only I could find a list of every possible MIME type except 'text'.... :) (I'll probably want to hack up another field there, that is "Pass sections that have MIME types matching this...", for bastards like me who want *nothing but text*, thank you...)

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Web_page_url change
by Webmaster 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

We are going to be changing the name of our Host Name on the Red Hat Linux box that Mailman 2.0.8 is running at. I would like to change all the lists and configuration for mailman over to this new Hostname. I don't want to setup a CNAME in DNS to keep the old hostname accessible. What steps are involved in accomplishing this task. I know you use the "withlist" with the command below. python -i bin/withlist -l mylist >>>m.web_page_url 'http://newname.com' >>>m.Save() >>>^D -- ################################################## Webmaster Idaho State University Computing & Communications webmaster(a)isu.edu ##################################################

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Stripping binaries attachments
by Dan Mick 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

> At 05:28 PM 4/19/02 -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > >bin/dumpdb knows how to print out the plaintext representation of a > >.pck message file, so > > > > % bin/dumpdb qfiles/in/...pck > msg.txt > > > >ought to do the trick. The other direction is fairly easy if you > >don't mind not saving the message metadata file (.db). Use > >bin/inject, possibly with the -q option. > > And, you know, I actually knew that at the time, and now that you've > mentioned it again, realize I actually did that eventually... > > Although I hadn't thought about using inject to shove it back in. Inject has given me problems, unless I go and remove some magic header manually (well, with sed); IIRC, it was X-BeenThere. Here are a couple of scripts I find useful for manually investigating bad or shunt messages: Create symlinks to all the shunted messages' .pck and .db files, in ~mailman, for investigation with debugshunt.py $ cat ~/bin/linkshunt #!/bin/ksh i=0 for f in $(ls qfiles/shunt/*pck); do ip=$(printf %03s $i) base=$(basename $f .pck) ln -s qfiles/shunt/${base}.pck shunt${ip}.pck ln -s qfiles/shunt/${base}.db shunt${ip}.db ((i=i+1)) done Set up some gunge to poke around shunted messages by hand (particularly when they won't parse, so dumpdb is no help). Create a msg object from argv[1], and have a pp function around for pretty-printing various things as you poke, then start an interactive console: $ cat debugshunt.py #!/usr/local/bin/python import sys sys.path.insert(0, './bin') import paths import cPickle import pprint import code f=open(sys.argv[1]) msg=cPickle.load(f) pp=pprint.PrettyPrinter().pprint try: import readline except ImportError: pass namespace = globals().copy() namespace.update(locals()) code.InteractiveConsole(namespace).interact("got console?")

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