Mailman 3 July 2002 - Mailman-Developers

[ mailman-Bugs-572312 ] bin/update fails on bogus import
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

Bugs item #572312, was opened at 2002-06-21 17:34 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=572312&group_i… Category: configuring/installing Group: 2.1 beta >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Larry A. Price (swirly) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: bin/update fails on bogus import Initial Comment: Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 47, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 40, in ? from email.Utils import getaddresses, formataddr, parseaddr ImportError: cannot import name formataddr make: *** [update] Error 1 there is no function formataddr in /usr/lib/python2.2/email/Utils.py formataddr is called only within the code to generate the admin_notif for new subscriptions. My solution was 40c40 < from email.Utils import getaddresses, formataddr, parseaddr --- > from email.Utils import getaddresses, parseaddr 865c865 < "member" : formataddr((name, email)), --- > "member" : "%s <%s>" % (name, email), ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-07-03 14:55 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 The next Mailman beta will fix this by installing it's own copy of the email package instead of trying to use the (incomplete) one from Python 2..2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=572312&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-425121 ] Double moderator approval messages
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

Bugs item #425121, was opened at 2001-05-18 04:46 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=425121&group_i… Category: mail delivery >Group: 2.0.x >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 4 Submitted By: Gert Jan Kruizinga (gjk4all) Assigned to: Thomas Wouters (twouters) Summary: Double moderator approval messages Initial Comment: Dear *, I get the message "Your message to Gein awaits moderator approval" two or three times after posting a message to the mailing list. My moderator also receives his message two or three times, but the two are not related to each other. I already tried to upgrade from mailman-2.0.1 to mailman-2.0.5, but the multiple posting still exists. I have not fount anything regarding this problem in the faq's so i submit it here. Gert Jan Kruizinga. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-07-03 14:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Since I haven't heard anything more about this, I'll assume an upgrade fixed your problem. Closing this bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-04-28 18:07 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Is this bug still a problem for you? If so, first, I would recommend upgrading to MM2.0.10. Second, I'd like to know what version of Python you're using, and also what MTA (and version) you're using. If this is not a problem any more, please follow up so I can close this bug. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: J. Ros (ros005) Date: 2002-01-14 09:35 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=414801 Yes, there are two different list admin accounts, but this is not the issue, as also regular users receive more than once. Most of the time I and all other users receive one copy of the mail, but sometimes this can be two, three or even four copies. It seems that mailman works fine most of the time, but sometimes it sends two (or more)copies of the same message. All types of message are affected, not only administrative messages of Mailman to the moderator or users, but also regular posts to members. I will include both message headers for a double message. Futhermore I will include the errors in the mailman log files for these messages. First message 10:02 Received: from sat-relay1.telecom.ptt.nl (sat- relay1.pc.telecom.ptt.nl [10.1.88.11]) by tmail050s.telecom.ptt.nl with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id YJKFRJDJ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:17 +0100 Received: from hdiro004.kpn.com (hdiro004.kpn.com [145.7.200.4]) by sat-relay1.telecom.ptt.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0B92Kj21854; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:20 +0100 Received: from 145.7.200.6 by hdiro004.kpn.com (InterScan E- Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:20 +0100 Received: from mail.gjk4all.net (mail.gjk4all.net [213.196.2.118]) by relay1.kpn-telecom.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0B92JX02559; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:19 +0100 Received: from mail.gjk4all.net (mail.gjk4all.net [213.196.2.118]) by mail.gjk4all.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE827C90; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.gjk4all.net (Postfix, from userid 1011) id EB3D77C8C; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:00:28 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: Multipart/Related; boundary="---------- =_1010739627-91125-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) To: gein(a)gjk4all.net Message-Id: <20020111090028.EB3D77C8C(a)mail.gjk4all.net> From: gein-admin(a)gjk4all.net Reply-To: gein(a)gjk4all.net Subject: [Gein] Dagelijkse portie fokke en sukke Sender: gein-admin(a)gjk4all.net Errors-To: gein-admin(a)gjk4all.net X-BeenThere: gein(a)mail.gjk4all.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:gein-request@mail.gjk4all.net? subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:gein@mail.gjk4all.net> List-Subscribe: <https://www.gjk4all.net/mailman/listinfo/gein>, <mailto:gein-request@mail.gjk4all.net? subject=subscribe> List-Id: <gein.mail.gjk4all.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.gjk4all.net/mailman/listinfo/gein>, <mailto:gein-request@mail.gjk4all.net? subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.gjk4all.net/archive/gein/> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:00:28 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1010739627-91125-0 Content-Type: Text/HTML Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Id: Part-1-20020111@ ------------=_1010739627-91125-0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="fokke_sukke_20020111.gif" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="fokke_sukke_20020111.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Id: Part-2-20020111@ ------------=_1010739627-91125-0-- =========================================== Second message 10:03 Received: from sat-relay1.telecom.ptt.nl (sat- relay1.pc.telecom.ptt.nl [10.1.88.11]) by tmail050s.telecom.ptt.nl with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id YJKFRJDY; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:27 +0100 Received: from hdiro004.kpn.com (hdiro004.kpn.com [145.7.200.4]) by sat-relay1.telecom.ptt.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0B92Uj21921; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:30 +0100 Received: from 145.7.200.7 by hdiro004.kpn.com (InterScan E- Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:30 +0100 Received: from mail.gjk4all.net (mail.gjk4all.net [213.196.2.118]) by relay2.kpn-telecom.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0B92Tv07835; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:29 +0100 Received: from mail.gjk4all.net (mail.gjk4all.net [213.196.2.118]) by mail.gjk4all.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C63C7F9A; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:02:28 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.gjk4all.net (Postfix, from userid 1011) id D42257C9A; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:00:28 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: Multipart/Related; boundary="---------- =_1010739627-91125-0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) To: gein(a)gjk4all.net Message-Id: <20020111090028.D42257C9A(a)mail.gjk4all.net> From: gein-admin(a)gjk4all.net Reply-To: gein(a)gjk4all.net Subject: [Gein] Dagelijkse portie fokke en sukke Sender: gein-admin(a)gjk4all.net Errors-To: gein-admin(a)gjk4all.net X-BeenThere: gein(a)mail.gjk4all.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:gein-request@mail.gjk4all.net? subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:gein@mail.gjk4all.net> List-Subscribe: <https://www.gjk4all.net/mailman/listinfo/gein>, <mailto:gein-request@mail.gjk4all.net? subject=subscribe> List-Id: <gein.mail.gjk4all.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.gjk4all.net/mailman/listinfo/gein>, <mailto:gein-request@mail.gjk4all.net? subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.gjk4all.net/archive/gein/> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:00:28 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1010739627-91125-0 Content-Type: Text/HTML Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Id: Part-1-20020111@ ------------=_1010739627-91125-0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="fokke_sukke_20020111.gif" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="fokke_sukke_20020111.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Id: Part-2-20020111@ ------------=_1010739627-91125-0-- ==================================== Errors: error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 qrunner(91278): Traceback (most recent call last): error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 qrunner(91278): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 213, in ArchiveMail error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 qrunner(91278): self.ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt) error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 qrunner(91278): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 174, in ExternalArchive error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 qrunner(91278): syslog ('error', 'external archiver non-zero exit status: %d\n' % error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 qrunner(91278): TypeError: bad operand type(s) for >> error:Jan 11 10:02:15 2002 (91278) CORRUPT ARCHIVE FOR LIST: gein error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 qrunner(91278): Traceback (most recent call last): error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 qrunner(91278): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 213, in ArchiveMail error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 qrunner(91278): self.ExternalArchive(mm_cfg.PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER, txt) error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 qrunner(91278): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 174, in ExternalArchive error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 qrunner(91278): syslog ('error', 'external archiver non-zero exit status: %d\n' % error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 qrunner(91278): TypeError: bad operand type(s) for >> error:Jan 11 10:02:27 2002 (91278) CORRUPT ARCHIVE FOR LIST: gein post:Jan 11 10:02:23 2002 (91278) post to gein from gein- admin(a)mail.gjk4all.net, size=12424, success post:Jan 11 10:02:36 2002 (91278) post to gein from gein- admin(a)mail.gjk4all.net, size=12424, success qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/2e3744b0aa565e294e50cc52632 bb41cb439b904 qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/3142c3521506e1863bcab1aaab4 eb9b00b556d90 qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/35bd0398c386c9fa5949935d920 6517d6bff0e35 qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/871f29104cec59a6c8046bc8a9e bf3047fa800b6 qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/c0e97e9812d06e3e9eb47b29f18 1c26da7dbf6cc qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/5f20c0dcd3c3a96ff32df4fe272 52589a93c8cbb qrunner:Jan 11 10:02:00 2002 (91278) Exception reading qfile: /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/e71a75f4429e10b4a8befe6f429 48d0a5f8d4fcd smtp:Jan 11 10:02:20 2002 (91278) smtp for 28 recips, completed in 4.455 seconds smtp:Jan 11 10:02:36 2002 (91278) smtp for 28 recips, completed in 8.968 seconds ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: J. Ros (ros005) Date: 2001-12-31 13:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=414801 Hi, I am the listadmin of gjk4all. We still have the same problem. Messages get sent more than once. This means not only administrative messages of Mailman to the moderator or users, but also regular posts to menmbers. I noticed the same problem on a different mailing list I am subscribed to: http://www.giggleshumor.com The problem seems to be related to the time of day. I hope you can find a solution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2001-06-04 14:41 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 In order to debug this, I would need a copy of the all duplicates for one of the duplicated messages. Please include /all/ the original headers, as that's the only way to determine what's going on. My suspicion is that there are multiple qrunners running, and that they aren't getting locked out correctly for some reason. Clearly, we have not seen similar bugs for MM2.0.5 on {python,zope}.org, so I expect it to be a configuration problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Gert Jan Kruizinga (gjk4all) Date: 2001-05-29 10:14 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=222418 No, all the users of the list also get the `"your message awaits moderator approval" message twice. Btw i'm not the listadmin, only the server admin, my listadmin also complains that he gets the "messages awaiting moderator approval" message sometimes 2, 3 or even 4 times, but he submitted two email addresses of his own, so that can be explaind. Gert Jan Kruizinga. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Thomas Wouters (twouters) Date: 2001-05-29 09:56 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=34209 Are you sure you aren't listed as the list-admin several times ? Do you get each messages that many times ? What about the message headers: can you see where they get 'duplicated' ? (Compare Received: lines and message-id's between the duplicates to find out.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=425121&group_i…

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quite a few problems with current cvs
by Fil 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

Dear Mailman-dev, since I last upgraded I can't make mailman work as it used to! 1) Most importantly and urgently, the confirmation emails do not trigger subscriptions any more : the user receives her "You are subscribed" email, but she does not appear in the subscribers' roster, and her cookie is still there in data/pending.pck 2) A secondary issue is that the iso-something subject lines are totally broken ; I think this is related to the impossibility of installing email-2.0.4 on a python 2.1 box (the _compat22.py file fails and exit) but I'm not sure. What can I do to help track it down/ repair my system? -- Fil

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Discard patch
by Alan Batie 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

I still think that a language that applies semantics to indentation is silly (though I can remember wishing for it a few times when I was learning programming ;-) ), but at least you guys have written good readable code, even for a non-python guy. Here's the patches to add "discard_nonmember_postings" as an option; it only has effect if member_posting_only is also set and the datafile version is revved to 22 to add it in automatically. I was trying to fix the fact that member_posting_only doesn't properly default, but it seems to be in RadioButtonArray and I can't find that anywhere, either in mailman or in python. Maybe it's cuz it's after 2am. Oh well. While I was looking at that, I saw a comment that said something like "i'd rather have Logout have a blank line in front of it instead of being a big font", so I fixed that too --- kindof a hack, but one I find works well all over the place. That's the second patch, FWIW... -- Alan Batie ______ www.rdrop.com/users/alan Me alan(a)batie.org \ / www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A \ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ razor.sourceforge.net NO SPAM! A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -Adlai Stevenson, statesman (1900-1965)

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[ mailman-Patches-534577 ] Add SpamAssassin filter to mail pipeline
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Patches item #534577, was opened at 2002-03-25 16:17 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=534577&group_i… Category: list administration Group: Mailman 2.0.x Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: James Henstridge (jhenstridge) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Add SpamAssassin filter to mail pipeline Initial Comment: This filter adds support for discarding or holding spam sent to the mailing list. It contacts a spamd daemon (from SpamAssassin -- http://spamassassin.taint.org) to score the message. If the score is above a certain threshold (default 10), the message is discarded and an entry is written to the vette log. If the score is above another lower threshold (default 5), the message is held for moderation. The SpamAssassin.py file should be installed in Mailman/Handlers/. The LIST_PIPELINE variable in Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py should be modified to include a 'SpamAssassin' item (I put it just after the existing 'SpamDetect' item). To change the defaults, the following can be added to the mm_cfg.py file: SPAMASSASSIN_HOST = 'host:port' # how to contact SA SPAMASSASSIN_DISCARD_SCORE = 10 SPAMASSASSIN_HOLD_SCORE = 5 If you don't want to discard messages, then DISCARD_SCORE can be set to something very high (1000 should do it). It looks the MM2.1 filter APIs have changed a bit, so this filter will need some modifications to work with that version. When I get round to upgrading, I might look into updating it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: James Henstridge (jhenstridge) Date: 2002-07-03 12:02 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=146903 Yet another version. There were some bugs in handling of certain error conditions when talking to spamd. These would result in exceptions and the messages staying in the delivery queue :( With the new version, the message will be passed through unchecked under these conditions, and a message will be added to the error log. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Sean Reifschneider (jafo) Date: 2002-06-13 05:48 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=81797 FYI: I've been running the 2002-05-14 version of this patch with spamassassin 2.20 for the last day on our main mailman box and it seems to be working great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: James Henstridge (jhenstridge) Date: 2002-05-14 14:04 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=146903 This version is essentially the same as the previous version, but adds compatibility with python > 1.5.2, which doesn't like you passing two arguments to socket.connect(). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: James Henstridge (jhenstridge) Date: 2002-04-27 14:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=146903 Just attached my updated version of the patch. This version requires SpamAssassin 2.20 (for the extra commands that the spamd daemon understands). It now displays a list of which rules were triggered for held messages, and can give messages from list members a bonus (defaults to 2), so that they are less likely to get held as spam. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: James Henstridge (jhenstridge) Date: 2002-03-26 09:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=146903 There is a fairly easy optimisation for this filter that I missed when writing it. It calls str() on the message object twice. It would be quicker to call str() on the message once. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300103&aid=534577&group_i…

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[ mailman-Bugs-229568 ] Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Bugs item #229568, was opened at 2001-01-20 22:53 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=229568&group_i… Category: Pipermail Group: None Status: Open Resolution: Works For Me Priority: 5 Submitted By: Aharon Varady (aharon) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses Initial Comment: Pipermail does not resolve the "author" of emails sent from aol.com. Instead, Pipermail gives the email address of the listserve. For example: "John" <user(a)aol.com> is resolved by pipermail as: listname(a)foo.com and not as John. This bug only occurs for users of aol.com addresses. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Terri Oda (spot) Date: 2002-07-02 16:00 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=110886 Whoops. Diffed the wrong thing. That's what happens when I try to patch code but haven't slept in a few days. This actually works better: 180c180 < if e is not None: --- > if e is not None and self.email == "": ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Terri Oda (spot) Date: 2002-07-01 14:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=110886 The problem is that it defaults to using the reply-to address if it's set, and this isn't what we want when the reply-to is always being set by the list. Take a careful look at the rest of your archives and you'll probably note that *everyone's* email address is showing up as listname(a)foo.com. It's a nice anti-spam feature, perhaps, but probably not what you want. Here's a quick fix for pipermail.py: 180c180 < if e is not None: --- > if e is not None and self.email is None: This just changes it so that it defaults to the From: address (when it's set) rather than the Reply-to address. If there's some particular reason to take the Reply-To over the From, I can make something which actually checks to see if the reply-to is being set by the list, but this should solve your problem for the moment. Terri ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ava Jarvis (katanalynx) Date: 2002-06-10 22:14 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=561110 This bug -- for version 2.0.11 at least -- seems to occur when 'from' only contains the email address. There's some code in pipermail.py (version 2.0.11), line 177: <excerpt> # Figure out the e-mail address and poster's name self.author, self.email = message.getaddr('From') e = message.getheader('Reply-To') if e is not None: self.email = e self.email = strip_separators(self.email) self.author = strip_separators(self.author) if self.author == "": self.author = self.email </excerpt> If reply-to is set, then it is always taken as the author's email address. However, some lists set the reply-to field to be, for instance, the list address.... and you can guess what happens next when there is no name comment/author. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2002-06-06 12:09 Message: Logged In: NO This comment doesn't directly address the case you report, but it might be related so I thought it worthwhile to submit. I see you are using MM2.0.9. I saw a similar problem with MM2.1b1, which was fixed in MM2.1b2. The problem then was that an address with a name "comment" would be displayed in the archive as the list name, whereas an address with a name comment would be displayed (properly) with the name. Example: "John Doe" jdoe(a)whereever.com displayed as "John Doe" whereas jdoe(a)whereever.com displayed as the list name. In your comment, you use an example with a name comment of "John", but in the example you provided there is no name comment field, so perhaps my statements here do apply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Aharon Varady (aharon) Date: 2002-06-05 21:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=139355 Well, this remains (and has always been) a problem for my lists. I have never had a user posting with an aol.com address that this hasn't been the case with. Currently my solution is to replace the wrong address shown (philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com) with a generic or balnk mark. Here is the html source of a typical email from our pipermail archive, and below it the source email with headers. ------------------------------------------------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title> [Philly_ambient] tool! </title> <link REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > <link REL="made" HREF="mailto:philly_ambient%40phobos.serve.com"> <meta NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> <link REL="Previous" href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002904.html"> <link REL="Next" href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002911.html"> <style TYPE="text/css"></style></head> <body BGCOLOR="#cccccc"><font face="Arial,Helvetica" size=-1><ul> <h4>[Philly_ambient] tool!</h4>Posted by <b>. . . .. . . .</b> on <i>Mon Jun 3 23:17:02 2002</i> <p></font><table cellpadding=3><tr><td bgcolor=#FFFFFF width="475"><font face="geneva,courier"><tt>  <pre>hey all a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday august 12 at sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh well. is anyone here into going? if so, contact me privately. i know it's not ambient, but neither is some of what we discuss here :) let me know asap, please gina </pre>  </tt></font></td></tr></table><font face="Arial,Helvetica" size=-1> <p>  <li> Previous message: <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002904.html">[Philly_ambient] Noise Deafinitions and playlist </a></li> <li> Next message: <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002911.html">[Philly_ambient] Do you hear what I hear? (re: noise deaf) </a></li> <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/date.html#2907">[ date ]</a> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/thread.html#2907">[ thread ]</a> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/subject.html#2907">[ subject ]</a> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/author.html#2907">[ author ]</a> </li> </body></html> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the original email with headers: --------------------------------------------------------------- >From - Tue Jun 04 01:16:56 2002 X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"! X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: <philly_ambient-admin(a)phobos.serve.com> Delivered-To: aharon(a)phobos.serve.com Received: from phobos.serve.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC4D52D2B; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F82F52D1D for <philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com>; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Mistsojorn(a)aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id p.d4.184e63f9 (17378) for <philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com>; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mistsojorn(a)aol.com Message-ID: <d4.184e63f9.2a2d8a9b(a)aol.com> To: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Subject: [Philly_ambient] tool! Sender: philly_ambient-admin(a)phobos.serve.com Errors-To: philly_ambient-admin(a)phobos.serve.com X-BeenThere: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com List-Help: <mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com> List-Subscribe: <http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient>, <mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=subscribe> List-Id: a discussion list relevant to Philadelphia Ambient and Experimental Psychedelic Music Enthusiasts <philly_ambient.phobos.serve.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient>, <mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/> X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"! hey all a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday august 12 at sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh well. is anyone here into going? if so, contact me privately. i know it's not ambient, but neither is some of what we discuss here :) let me know asap, please gina _______________________________________________ Philly_ambient mailing list Philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Edit Options at: http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient a PAC(MaN) List http://simpletone.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know why pipermail would treat my aol subscribers different either. But it is. Aharon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-04-28 21:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Bizarre. I've never seen this, and I can't see any reason why Pipermail would treat aol.com addresses any different. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=229568&group_i…

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drop mail from posters who are not subscribed!
by Chuck Mead 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Does anybody have a patch making it possible to simply drop mail sent from posters who are not subscribed? I run a pile of lists (none of them accept mail from people who are not subscribed) and I get quite tired of having to manually deal with spam posts from people who are not subscribed to the lists. Any ideas? -- csm "Look, I want to make Microsoft's life miserable; so I'll tell you what, I'll pay you $10 million a year to torture Microsoft." --Steve Ballmer

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A quick pointer
by Alan Batie 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

I'll confess I've never hacked python, but it looks pretty straightforward and I'm really tired of going in and weeding out the spam from my several lists every few days. The FAQ for tossing everything is tempting, but I'd like to fix it right and add a setting that says "Discard every post not from a subscriber". I was hoping I could get three quick pointers here so I don't have to wade through the whole thing: 1. Where do the settings listed on the web page get set? 2. Where do they get processed when you submit the form? (I'm assuming looking at this will also tell me how to query the setting later) 3. Where does the decision of what to do with a message not from a subscriber happen? I can probably find this searching through the code, but I thought posting here would a) let people know someone was attempting this, b) tell me if someone else is already doing it and c) maybe someone would let me know if there are any "surprises" lurking... Thanks... -- Alan Batie ______ www.rdrop.com/users/alan Me alan(a)batie.org \ / www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A \ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ razor.sourceforge.net NO SPAM! A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -Adlai Stevenson, statesman (1900-1965)

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[ mailman-Bugs-229568 ] Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses
by noreply＠sourceforge.net 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Bugs item #229568, was opened at 2001-01-20 22:53 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=229568&group_i… Category: Pipermail Group: None Status: Open Resolution: Works For Me Priority: 5 Submitted By: Aharon Varady (aharon) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses Initial Comment: Pipermail does not resolve the "author" of emails sent from aol.com. Instead, Pipermail gives the email address of the listserve. For example: "John" <user(a)aol.com> is resolved by pipermail as: listname(a)foo.com and not as John. This bug only occurs for users of aol.com addresses. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Terri Oda (spot) Date: 2002-07-01 14:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=110886 The problem is that it defaults to using the reply-to address if it's set, and this isn't what we want when the reply-to is always being set by the list. Take a careful look at the rest of your archives and you'll probably note that *everyone's* email address is showing up as listname(a)foo.com. It's a nice anti-spam feature, perhaps, but probably not what you want. Here's a quick fix for pipermail.py: 180c180 < if e is not None: --- > if e is not None and self.email is None: This just changes it so that it defaults to the From: address (when it's set) rather than the Reply-to address. If there's some particular reason to take the Reply-To over the From, I can make something which actually checks to see if the reply-to is being set by the list, but this should solve your problem for the moment. Terri ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Ava Jarvis (katanalynx) Date: 2002-06-10 22:14 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=561110 This bug -- for version 2.0.11 at least -- seems to occur when 'from' only contains the email address. There's some code in pipermail.py (version 2.0.11), line 177: <excerpt> # Figure out the e-mail address and poster's name self.author, self.email = message.getaddr('From') e = message.getheader('Reply-To') if e is not None: self.email = e self.email = strip_separators(self.email) self.author = strip_separators(self.author) if self.author == "": self.author = self.email </excerpt> If reply-to is set, then it is always taken as the author's email address. However, some lists set the reply-to field to be, for instance, the list address.... and you can guess what happens next when there is no name comment/author. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2002-06-06 12:09 Message: Logged In: NO This comment doesn't directly address the case you report, but it might be related so I thought it worthwhile to submit. I see you are using MM2.0.9. I saw a similar problem with MM2.1b1, which was fixed in MM2.1b2. The problem then was that an address with a name "comment" would be displayed in the archive as the list name, whereas an address with a name comment would be displayed (properly) with the name. Example: "John Doe" jdoe(a)whereever.com displayed as "John Doe" whereas jdoe(a)whereever.com displayed as the list name. In your comment, you use an example with a name comment of "John", but in the example you provided there is no name comment field, so perhaps my statements here do apply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Aharon Varady (aharon) Date: 2002-06-05 21:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=139355 Well, this remains (and has always been) a problem for my lists. I have never had a user posting with an aol.com address that this hasn't been the case with. Currently my solution is to replace the wrong address shown (philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com) with a generic or balnk mark. Here is the html source of a typical email from our pipermail archive, and below it the source email with headers. ------------------------------------------------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title> [Philly_ambient] tool! </title> <link REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > <link REL="made" HREF="mailto:philly_ambient%40phobos.serve.com"> <meta NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> <link REL="Previous" href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002904.html"> <link REL="Next" href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002911.html"> <style TYPE="text/css"></style></head> <body BGCOLOR="#cccccc"><font face="Arial,Helvetica" size=-1><ul> <h4>[Philly_ambient] tool!</h4>Posted by <b>. . . .. . . .</b> on <i>Mon Jun 3 23:17:02 2002</i> <p></font><table cellpadding=3><tr><td bgcolor=#FFFFFF width="475"><font face="geneva,courier"><tt>  <pre>hey all a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday august 12 at sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh well. is anyone here into going? if so, contact me privately. i know it's not ambient, but neither is some of what we discuss here :) let me know asap, please gina </pre>  </tt></font></td></tr></table><font face="Arial,Helvetica" size=-1> <p>  <li> Previous message: <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002904.html">[Philly_ambient] Noise Deafinitions and playlist </a></li> <li> Next message: <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002911.html">[Philly_ambient] Do you hear what I hear? (re: noise deaf) </a></li> <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/date.html#2907">[ date ]</a> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/thread.html#2907">[ thread ]</a> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/subject.html#2907">[ subject ]</a> <a href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/author.html#2907">[ author ]</a> </li> </body></html> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the original email with headers: --------------------------------------------------------------- >From - Tue Jun 04 01:16:56 2002 X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"! X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: <philly_ambient-admin(a)phobos.serve.com> Delivered-To: aharon(a)phobos.serve.com Received: from phobos.serve.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC4D52D2B; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F82F52D1D for <philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com>; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Mistsojorn(a)aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id p.d4.184e63f9 (17378) for <philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com>; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mistsojorn(a)aol.com Message-ID: <d4.184e63f9.2a2d8a9b(a)aol.com> To: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Subject: [Philly_ambient] tool! Sender: philly_ambient-admin(a)phobos.serve.com Errors-To: philly_ambient-admin(a)phobos.serve.com X-BeenThere: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com List-Help: <mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com> List-Subscribe: <http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient>, <mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=subscribe> List-Id: a discussion list relevant to Philadelphia Ambient and Experimental Psychedelic Music Enthusiasts <philly_ambient.phobos.serve.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient>, <mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/> X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"! hey all a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday august 12 at sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh well. is anyone here into going? if so, contact me privately. i know it's not ambient, but neither is some of what we discuss here :) let me know asap, please gina _______________________________________________ Philly_ambient mailing list Philly_ambient(a)phobos.serve.com Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Edit Options at: http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient a PAC(MaN) List http://simpletone.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know why pipermail would treat my aol subscribers different either. But it is. Aharon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw) Date: 2002-04-28 21:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=12800 Bizarre. I've never seen this, and I can't see any reason why Pipermail would treat aol.com addresses any different. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=229568&group_i…

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messages/nl/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo
by Jon Parise 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

>From the latest CVS sources: install: nl/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 It doesn't look like mailman.mo has been checked in for the Dutch translation. -- Jon Parise (jon(a)csh.rit.edu) . Information Technology (2001) http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member

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