Mailman 3 February 2003 - Mailman-Developers

bugs postings?
by Ron Jarrell 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Did the posting of bugs to the list break, or did I just miss a thread where it was announced it would stop? I haven't seen any since the 19th (which includes the one I put in recently about incorrect padding errors coming out of ToDigest->Scrubber->Message->Utils->base64, which is stacking up mail in my shunt).

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mailpasswds and SuppressPasswordReminder
by Jon Parise 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

It looks like the "massive rewrite" that occured between revisions 2.5 and 2.5 of cron/mailpasswds removed the SuppressPasswordReminder check. Attached is a totally untested patch provided simply to suggest a possible fix. -- Jon Parise (jon(a)csh.rit.edu) :: http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/

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Mailman 2.1.1 ETA?
by Bryan Fullerton 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Howdy, Is there an ETA on 2.1.1? It's hard to justify using sources from CVS in production, and it's becoming a bit annoying trying to remember all the patches to apply when a new fix comes along. :) Thanks, Bryan

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Just a thought about documentation
by Marc Perkel 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

One problem with developers writing their own documentation is that the developer never experienced learning the program. One of the problems with almost all free software is that the documentation could be a lot better. There are also many schools out there that have courses for people who want to become technical writers. People who's job it will someday be to do software documentation. So it occurs to me that if technical writing colleges hooked up with free software projects and assigned documenting free software - such as Mailnan to students - that it would be beneficial for both worlds. My two centz ....

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[Mailman-Developers] Oddness with handle-opts.html and subscribe.html
by mch＠cix.compulink.co.uk 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

In-Reply-To: <E18eeWL-0003Zp-00(a)mail.python.org> I'm using MailMan 2.0.6 - upgrading isn't under my control since I don't run the server. The results pages handle-opts.html and subscribe.html seem to be returning *<HTML>*<HEAD>*</HEAD>*<BODY* prepended to the HTML uploaded, where * is a Windows-undisplayable character which I presume is likely to be 
 My search for "handle-opts" on the archive produces nothing I recognise as a discussion of this. Do I have a configuration problem? You can try subscribing yourself at www.londonfreelance.org/indynet (This is a test list only until Wednesday. Please don't confirm your subscription unless you are a contributor to the Independent newspapers in London, in which case please do and welcome :-) Additionally, the HTML-uploading feature sporadically[1] changes entities by escaping the leading & when it reports back what the existing HTML is, so " -> &quot; Mike [1] if I see a pattern I'll provide a test case.

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mailpasswd still broken.
by Chuq Von Rospach 02 Feb '03

02 Feb '03

got further, but still broken.. grump. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds", line 216, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds", line 200, in main text, poplang) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 203, in __init__ self['Subject'] = Header(subject, charset, header_name='Subject') File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 164, in __init__ self.append(s, charset) File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 230, in append ustr = unicode(s, incodec) LookupError: unknown encoding off to do more debugging... -- Chuq Von Rospach, Architech chuqui(a)plaidworks.com -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/ Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.

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[Mailman-Developers] [Bug] guess_type() got an unexpected keyword argument 'strict'
by Gerhard Killesreiter 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Hi there! Please Cc me on responses I am not on the list. Sorry for not using the bug tracker, but somehow it does not like my ancient version of nutscrape. I decided to move my lists to 2.1 this night. Everything went more or less smooth, but when I wanted to visit the archive of my test-list, I got the error below. I /think/ that it might be due to the recent change in private.py: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/… Cheers, Gerhard Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/vdst.net/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/home/vdst.net/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/private.py", line 136, in main ctype, enc = mimetypes.guess_type(path, strict=0) TypeError: guess_type() got an unexpected keyword argument 'strict' sys.version 2.1.1 (#1, Nov 18 2001, 12:16:29) [GCC 2.95.4 20010319 (prerelease)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 DOCUMENT_ROOT /var/www/doma.in/htdocs SERVER_ADDR 217.115.157.198 REMOTE_HOST helios.physik.uni-freiburg.de SERVER_PORT 80 PATH_TRANSLATED /var/www/doma.in/htdocs/test/ REMOTE_ADDR 132.230.78.135 UNIQUE_ID Pjx3CNlzjV8AAAPpO2s HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en PHPRC /etc= GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 SERVER_NAME www.doma.in SCRIPT_FILENAME /home/doma.in/mailman/cgi-bin/private HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* REQUEST_URI /mailman/private/test/ QUERY_STRING SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.0 PATH_INFO /test/ HTTP_HOST list.doma.in REQUEST_METHOD GET SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.26 Ben-SSL/1.48 Server at www.doma.in Port 80 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/private SERVER_ADMIN root(a)ds217-115-141-95.dedicated.hosteurope.de SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.26 Ben-SSL/1.48 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.2.1 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) PYTHONPATH /home/doma.in/mailman -- Dipl.-Phys. Gerhard Killesreiter <killesreiter(a)physik.uni-freiburg.de> Man soll nciht so tun, als wenn es "neutrale" oder "objektive" Wissenschaften gibt. (Stephan Peters aka Kang0815 in dssv)

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I hate the 1st of the month.
by Ron Jarrell 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

Just venting. I'm in my monthly "God, I *hate* the password reminder scheme" phase. I get over it in a few days. But for the next 48 hours or so I'm dealing with a stream of people who reply to mailman-owner with a "please take me off the list" note, leaving me to send back endless streams of form letters along the lines of "Look, Jane, you ignorant slut, read the damn note and unsubscribe your own damn self, I don't even know which *list* you're on!" (Let's see how many saturday night live fans are in the audience :-)) Yes, I know I have the tools to pretty straightforwardly find the list and kill them from the command line, but that presumes it's a list I manage myself. In between these bouts, I like the feature.

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[Mailman-Developers] PyCon, Sprints, and IRC (was Re: [Mailman-Users] IRC)
by barry＠python.org 01 Feb '03

01 Feb '03

>>>>> "JL" == Jim LaSalle <jjlasalle(a)attbi.com> writes: JL> Is there an IRC for users of this mail list? irc.freenode.net #mailman But I haven't had much time to hang out there lately. :( BTW, is anybody planning on coming to PyCon? http://www.python.org/pycon/ If there is enough interest and participation, I'd be willing to chair a Mailman sprint. I can think of several topics that might be useful to sprint on: - documentation - bug fix day - improving the archiver (adding searching, or webmail) - Mailman 3.0 sprints (member mgt, backing database) - improve admindb interface I'm of course open to other suggestions. Anybody interested and planning on attending? -Barry

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