Mailman 3 January 2004 - Mailman-Developers

HTML and Archives
by Geoff Staples 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

It appears that the archives do not support HTML. Specifically, the lists can be setup to allow users to send HTML. But, the archives don't. Please verify that isn't simply a configuration issue. Also, can someone direct me to developer information about how to develop and submit code to the project? Geoff

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Link to main archive web page.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

I think that there should be a link to the main archive web page in every (under every) archived message seen in archive, because at the moment there is only link to the subscribtion page (information page), and possibility to sort messages differently, but if I read it sorted by thread for example, I cannot go back to the begining of the thread or to the main archive web page by clicking on a link - there is no such a link, unfortunatelly. Regards Andy

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Mailman 3 Sprint at PyConII?
by Barry Warsaw 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Is anybody here planning on coming to PyConII? http://www.python.org/pycon/dc2004/ It's in my backyard (not literally :), so I'm definitely planning on coming. Four days are reserved for sprints, essentially focused hacking sessions. Last year's sprints were excellent -- I worked on i18n for Zope3 with Jim Fulton and others. I thought I'd ask around here to see who might be interested in a Mailman3 sprint. I have enough basic stuff laid out that I think a couple of people could make some good progress. If you're a database wizard (MySQL, BDB, PostgreSQL), u/i guru (ZPT or others), or Twisted dude/dudette, or just want to dig in and get your fingers dirty, let me know. I don't know exactly when or how we need to reserve space for the sprints yet, so I'm mostly trying to judge interest and availability. You can email me directly. The sprints will be from March 20 - 23 (Sat thru Tues) with the conference running the 24th - 26th. There's good sushi nearby, or at least, there was last year! :) -Barry

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Allow list-owners to edit archives.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

Hi! IMHO it should be allowed to edit archives (i.e. mbox) by list-owners. List-owners should be able to correct bad dates, remove spam, viruses etc., and not to beg admins every time to do that. Regards Andy

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Archiving according to "Received" date - add this as an option...
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

I think that there should be an option allowing to archive mails according to date of reception of the posts by mailman, and not date set by user who sends it. That would prevent dates from the future in the archive: 2006, 2011, 2013, 2024, which you can see in many lists, like for example mailman-users archive: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ Some archivizers determine messages' date by default according to Received field: ======= http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/CHANGES 1998/02/18 (2.1.1) o Added DATEFIELDS resource. The resource allows the user to specify the fields (and order) that are checked when MHonArc extracts the date of a message. ======== http://www.mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/datefields.html By default. mhonarc looks at the Received fields of a message to determine a message's date. This tends to be more accurate as it tells when the message was actually received (it is better to trust a date/time you have control over vs what the sender has control over). However, you may want to have the date based upon the time the sender composed the message. The Date field usually reflects the composition date. ======== I don't know if it is foolproof, but I would wish also pipermail to look rather at the received date, than sender composed date (which can be 2024 or something). It really looks strange when there are so many dates from future stored in archive... I'd prefer to have a few hours error (if any) in recognizing the date, than a few years one. Regards Andy

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Statistics of post sent in Mailman.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

I would wish to see in mailman statistics of posts sent by users, i.e. how many post were sent from each e-mail address. There is such a feature in ver. 6.0d of ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas. It would be nice to have it in Mailman, too. Regards Andy

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Search engine build in.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

Don't you think that there could be a search engine build in to mailman to search mailman archives? Often admins, though installed mailman, do not offer any search engine, and are not willing/have no time to install it. Some lists have private archives so external search engines (like freefind.com) cannot be used. The only solution is a search engine build in in mailman. ak

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mailman problem/possible bug?
by Suchandra Thapa 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

I tried posting this in mailman-users but didn't get a reply. After a recent upgrade to mailman 2.1.3, I came across a possible bug in mailman. The bug is triggered by a character being out of range at line 799 in Mailman/Cgi/admin.py. The cvs commit for that line and the comments indicate that the error should appear for non ascii characters. The code at that point is encoding the member list (?) into the ascii character set. First, are the comments correct? I.e. is having an email address such as "André" <andre(a)foo.com> is correct or is this a valid email address? Also is there any way I can clean up the database if that email address is invalid? Finally, an install of mailman 2.1.2 was attempted to temporarily avoid the problem but an error about a downgrade being dangerous was given. Is a switch from mailman 2.1.3 to 2.1.2 safe? -- Suchandra Thapa System Administration Site5 Internet Solutions, Inc.

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Add link to main archive web page.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

I think that there should be present a link to the main archive web page in every (under every) archivised message seen in archive, because at the moment there is only link to the subscribtion page (information page), and possibility to sort messages differently, but if I read it sorted by thread for example, I cannot go back to the begining of the thread or to the main archive web page by clicking on a link - there is no such a link, unfortunatelly. Regards Andy

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Statistics of post sent in Mailman.
by Andrzej Kasperowicz 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

I would wish to see in mailman statistics of posts sent by users, i.e. how many post were sent from each e-mail address. There is such a feature in ver. 6.0d of ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas. It would be nice to have it in Mailman, too. Regards Andy

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