Mailman 3 February 2004 - Mailman-Developers

Well-formed and valid HTML
by Stefan Michalowski 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Hi, I would like to rewrite the mailman HTML templates so that they are well-formed and valid HTML (preferably XHTML 1.0). I started doing this but then noticed that some of the HTML is generated inside python code. Because gettext is used for i18n, I know that if I modify the text inside python, it will break all the translations that have been done. I'm guessing that the 3.0 release will need a rewrite of the translations anyway, but what is the status of this release? Is it worth working on the 2.1.x templates or will the 2.1.x be obsolete very soon. I also noticed that there is a 2.2 release in the works. When will this release be ready? Would it be better to rewrite the templates for that release? Regards, -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | | | Stefan Michalowski, M. Sc. | | ------------------ | | Email: illmnec(a)sympatico.ca | | GPG Key: http://screamerone.zapto.org/k.asc | | ---------------------------------- | | "Provider of Open Paradigm Shifts" | | | +-------------------------------------------------------+

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Translation F'up2 => Reply-To
by Michael Heydekamp 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Hi, anybody here who could deliver Python code for the following? In news2mail direction, I'd like to "translate" the F'up2 header (containing one or more newsgroups) to the Reply-To: header by preserving any already existing Reply-To addresses. One of four mailing lists is assigned to each of four newsgroups respectively. These mailing list addresses shall be concatenated to the Reply-To: header. Other arbitrary newsgroups in the F'up2 header should simply be disregarded. In mail2news direction I managed this by tweaking the INN filter, but I'm far beyond from being that familiar with Python as I am with Perl. Some example code to start with would already help. Michael

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What was Chuq just saying about spam?
by Barry Warsaw 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Some interesting notes from a Spamcon2004 attendee. I wasn't able to make it this year. -Barry http://www.emailoverload.com/antispam/2004SpamConfNotes.html

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A bit of perspective ....
by Kevin McCann 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Maybe I ought to explain what I'm up against. At work I'm running Lyris. I have hundreds of lists and many, many members. I also have Mailman running a handful of small-ish lists (and at home I run a server with Mailman for a personal interest discussion list of nearly 1,000 members). My organization (and in fact, my entire industry of international development) is embracing open source with a fervor and one of the things on the to-do list is to move all services that run on commercial software to open source software. NT, IIS, ColdFusion and Lyris, are, for all intents and purposes, history. I now have online communities that have been very much accustomed to Lyris features, performance, functionality, etc. Not to mention the web interfaces that marry Lyris and other online resources (profiles, documents, calendar, etc.). I have the unenviable challenge of moving these people to a Mailman environment without making them feel like it is a step backward. I would really like to believe that this is possible. I'm not ready to give up on this quite yet. I have looked at other open source MLM's, and for one reason or another, the others aren't at all usable. Mailman is the closest thing I see to a solution. Anyway, that's my sob story. I'll continue to look forward for solutions. Flame away if it'll make you feel like a better person, but I'm not giving up that easily. - Kevin

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I'm hiring...
by Chuq Von Rospach 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

god, I just realized I forgot to post these here. Hope you don't mind, Barry. Full-time postmaster position (primarily administrative, not technical): http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/001267.html "List mom": (moderately technical, with internal evangelism and needs analysis, and helping us figure out the next generation of "all this stuff") http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/001254.html And finally: (very technical, short-term contract) http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/001138.html (note: the job itself is filled, the contract spot it mentions needs to be filled in february) All are in silicon valley, all are being actively interviewed. All have to be willing to put up with, well, me hanging around and asking weird questions and stuff. Just so you're warned upfront...

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Unknown virtual host
by Mark Edwards 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

This used to work on my machine, but it presumably broke after some change to Mailman. If I try to create a new list via the web interface, I get: Error: Unknown virtual host: secure.antsclimbtree.com This is incorrect, secure.antsclimbtree.com most certainly is a known vitual host, both to apache and to exim. Obviously whatever method Mailman is using to check virtual host validity is consulting something other than apache or exim. The relevant lines from the create.py source codes are: # Make sure the web hostname matches one of our virtual domains hostname = Utils.get_domain() if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW and \ not mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.has_key(hostname): safehostname = Utils.websafe(hostname) request_creation(doc, cgidata, _('Unknown virtual host: %(safehostname)s')) return emailhost = mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.get(hostname, mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) As I don't know python whatsoever, I can't figure out what test is being used here. What I do know is that I can access pages on my server at secure.antsclimbtree.com, and I can send email to secure.antsclimbtree.com as well, so whatever check is being used doesn't seem relevant in my case. Can someone help me sort this out? Thanks. -- Mark Edwards

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URL's in generated html pages
by Martin MOKREJŠ 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

Hi, I found quite annoying and bad to generate full URL's in the generated webpages. For example, https://some.host/mailman/listinfo has a link to http://some.host/mailman/listinfo/admin . That's bad! I want to use only relative URL's of course!!! Could someone tell me where to edit the scripts or fix it in current cvs so I could upgrade immediately? I use mailman 2.1.4. Thanks!

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Problem with Modem PC card
by Prabhakar Kalasani 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

Hi all, when i'm trying to dial a modem pc card , I could able to send modem string through /dev/ttyC8 , but I'm not getting any response by saying "OK" from the target. But when I use some other manufacturers PC card , I'm getting response saying "OK" from the target. what could be the problem ? Thanks in advance. Regards, Prabhakar Kalasani

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