Mailman 3 August 2004 - Mailman-Developers

Timestamps in archive are +1 hr
by Chris Boulter 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

Apologies for noise, but I posted this to mailman-users last month and got no replies. It doesn't seem like something which would be all that hard to fix for someone who knows Python/Mailman better than I do. Any ideas? ----- Forwarded message from Chris Boulter <chris(a)jellybaby.net> ----- Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:30:35 +0100 From: Chris Boulter <chris(a)jellybaby.net> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Timestamps in archive are +1 hr To: mailman-users(a)python.org Hi, The timestamps on messages in our Mailman archives are all 1 hour ahead of reality. Any ideas? I'm in the UK, where it's currently summertime, which is UTC +0100. Typing 'date' on our Mailman box gives Wednesday July 28 15:24:33 BST 2004 which looks correct to me. I've found that I can fix the time by changing i18n.py line 60 (in the ctime function) from year, mon, day, hh, mm, ss, wday, yday, dst = time.localtime(date) ^^^^^^^^^ to year, mon, day, hh, mm, ss, wday, yday, dst = time.gmtime(date) ^^^^^^ and rebuilding the archives, but I don't want to leave this hack in place. If it's useful to know, a test mail I sent at 1253 local time today had its seconds-since-epoch set to 01091019325 by the time it got to the archive. Many thanks. -- chris(a)jellybaby.net ------------------------------------------------------ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- chris(a)jellybaby.net

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Mailman as a component to my application, please advise
by Salim Fadhley 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

I'm trying to build an application for work for which I hope to use mailman as a component; Here is what I am trying to do, do please let me know if you think this is sensible and if GNU Mailman is likely to be of use. If you take the time to read this, I would like to say thanks in advance. I need a simple mailing list manager to help organize our time-sheeting system. I already have a working Zope base application for doing time-sheets. One of the things this application is capable of doing is producing for any employee, on any given day a form to fill in so that the employee can record their hours. It's a simple form made with formulator that allows each employee to log the time they spent on a particular job. Unfortunately employees often forget to fill in their timesheets which mean the accountants forget to invoice and everybody looses out. So to combat this, we came up with a simple idea; What if every employee listed on the company Zope-based intranet were to receive an email at 4pm on any working day containing the form they need to fill in. Each form is unique to a user as not all users work on the same projects or work the same hours. We cannot send the same form to everybody, we need to: a) Calculate a URL for each employee's form which will include the employee's ID number from the intranet. b) Fetch that URL and convert it into an email c) Send that email to the employee and detect if there is a bounce. d) If a bounce occurs then we need to add a flag to that user's record; This will show up in the zope based intranet. The idea is that since most employees use our Squirrelmail based webmail, they can fill in the form through their webmail interface and submit their timesheets back. Requirements: * The zope based intranet currently runs on Zope, MS-SQL server with the commercial mxodbc drivers. * If nececary, mailman can run on a Windows server - we have Gentoo and Mandrake boxes that can accommodate this job. * Wherever possible Python is the preferred programming language. * Where possible I would like to avoid having to generate new code. * The code will be released as per the terms of the GNU. Notes: * CPU power is not a problem; If this thing works then the accountants will be happy to buy another Xeon (or two!). Question: * Can GNU Mailman help me with this project? * Does GNU Mailman have the ability to fetch web-pages on a per individual basis (rather than sending the same thing to each user). -- Salim Fadhley t. 07973 710 574 For the record, I consider any email sent to me to be my own property, regardless of any request or disclaimer saying otherwise.

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Personalization in header?
by Somuchfun 17 Aug '04

17 Aug '04

How can I add a line in the header that reflects the email address of the poster of the message? It seems only the user (recipient) can be shown by a variable? thanks

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Patch for easy spam forwarding.
by Chris Cogdon 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hey folks! I've been using mailman for some time. One process I do is to forward all spam that has been held by the list to Spamcop. This involves hitting 'discard', the 'forward' option, plus pasting a email address into the following input box. fairly easy, but gets REAL old after a while. So, I've modified Mailman to include a new processing option called 'Spam', which will discard the mail, plus forward it to a configurable mail handler (be it spamcop or anything else). This is independent of the existing forwarding options, too. If the address is left empty, the 'Spam' option doesn't appear. I'm very happy to deliver the patch file for this, if folk want it, or even want to include it in the project. One thing I've not handled yet is the i18n. The 'po' file format is easy enough to figure out, but... adding in new strings to a file seems to require renumbering all the later existing strings, and repeating that for every single language, which seems awfully awkward. Is there an 'easy' way to handle making such modifications ? Thank you for your consideration! -- ("`-/")_.-'"``-._ Chris Cogdon <chris(a)cogdon.org> . . `; -._ )-;-,_`) (v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' _.- _..-_/ / ((.' ((,.-' ((,/ fL

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-1 Moderator Requests Waiting.
by Andrew J. Hutton 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

A few weeks ago all my lists on two different machines suddently started sending out daily notifications of -1 Moderator Requests waiting for approval. How do I fix this?

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Relocating a list
by Nigel Metheringham 07 Aug '04

07 Aug '04

We are (finally) about to upgrade exim.org to a less obsolete version of Mailman [the excuse up to now has been that the box was overloaded and a Pentium 200 wouldn't handle the upgrades needed to get current!]. In one transition we intend to:- * Move to new hardware (Original pentium to P-IV) * Move to a new OS (Linux (RH7.3) to FreeBSD) * Move to a new Python (1.5.2 to 2.3) * Move to a new directory layout and we would like to keep the change relatively transparent :-) In particular we would like to keep the archive URLs stable, so regenerating the archives from the mboxes is not really an option despite the fact it would give us slightly better handling of the few attachments that have made it to the list. [The archives have had messages removed in the past so a regenerate would not keep numbering stable] I've just been looking at Barry's notes for his list relocation at http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg03127.html Would the process detailed there work OK for this sort of move - obviously I need to transfer the complete tree for a list from the old machine to the new one, but thats easy enough. The main thing I was wondering about is whether the python saved files (ie the list db file etc) will transfer OK, or whether they have machine/os/python-version dependencies that will preclude doing things this way? Cheers Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)InTechnology.co.uk ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ]

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Mailman Backup via PHP script
by Mark Peters 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

I created a PHP script which can be used to list of the subscribers to a Mailman list, which does not require root access to run. http://www.thepeters.org/mailmanBackup.htm This is provide as-is. Use at your own risk. M

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Bug 930819 -- onload focus for admlogin.html
by J C Lawrence 05 Aug '04

05 Aug '04

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:34:13 -0300 Christian Robottom Reis <kiko(a)async.com.br> wrote: > What's the process in Mailman when a patch has been posted and sits > idle without an answer? Add it to SF's bug/patch thing. > (And I thought Barry *was* my friend <wink>) He appears to be unusually busy. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Bug 930819 -- onload focus for admlogin.html
by J C Lawrence 04 Aug '04

04 Aug '04

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:38:42 -0300 Christian Robottom Reis <kiko(a)async.com.br> wrote: > Just a heads-up for bug 930819, which has a patch (two now) that adds > onload form focus to the password entry in admlogin.html, a usability > improvement for people using graphical browsers and maintaining many > lists. +1 -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Mailman-Developers August 2004