Mailman 3 April 2013 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)
by Terri Oda April 7, 2013

April 7, 2013

Hi Surya! On 04/01/2013 09:00 AM, Surya Kasturi wrote: > I have gone through the proposed ideas > http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2013 and found some > of them to be interesting.. > > 1. RSS and NNTP access to mailman services > 2. Authentication of REST API in Postorius/Django > 3. Fully Anonymization > 4. Currently the above, but even looking in other possibilities All of these are things we have need of. If the conversations at PyCon were anything to go by, I think more people are excited by #1, but it is perfectly reasonable if you simply choose whichever one of these appeals to you most. > My skills are in Python, Django little HTML, CSS. > Frankly, I don't grade myself to be "expert" but I am in "just - > intermediate" stage, where people are not afraid of taking new challenges, > roles. No worries -- we don't have any tasks this year that I would say require an expert, and all of them should be good for getting you more practice in a skill. Have you had a chance to set up a Mailman 3 development server and play around yet? With your experience with django, you could easily handle some of the bugs in postorius to get some practice working with our code base. Terri

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - introductions
by Barry Warsaw April 7, 2013

April 7, 2013

On Apr 04, 2013, at 07:59 PM, Karl-Aksel Puulmann wrote: >I'm Karl, 2nd year bachelors CS student from University of Tartu in >Estonia. Welcome Karl! FWIW, I'm utc-4 but feel free to ping me on #mailman during any overlapping time. -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration
by Daniel Kahn Gillmor April 7, 2013

April 7, 2013

On 04/06/2013 06:53 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > >> I am a undergrad student interested in OpenPGP integration in mailman as a >> GSOC project this summer. neat, i'm glad to hear it! > I'm not sure about the scope of your project but you may want to > review some prior efforts: > > http://schleuder2.nadir.org/ > http://www.synacklabs.net/projects/crypt-ml/ see also: http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-pgp-smime/ http://sels.ncsa.illinois.edu/ > My pet favourite feature from the lurker mail archiver is showing > photos from OpenPGP keys in the archive pages. :) there are a lot of different ways that you might try to integrate message encryption, message signing, etc into a mailing list. There are also a lot of ways to make it easy for users and administrators to shoot themselves in the foot with this stuff; and even seasoned system administrators with years of crypto background can get wrong. :( If i were you, Abhilash, i would start by trying to write up a concise statement about what specific enhancement you want to make from an end-user perspective, and what threat model your enhancement addresses. here are three (very different) starting points as examples: A) I want to make it so that only correctly-signed messages will be redistributed to the list. B) I want to make it so that no one but the list subscribers will be able to be able to view the content of messages sent to the list. C) I don't want the identities of anyone subscribed to the mailing list to be known to anyone but the other subscribers. There are layers of nuance to resolve with each of those goals. i had a hard time keeping them that short because of all the exceptions and questions they raised in my head when i wrote them (Hint: i'm not convinced that either of them is actually well-defined enough to even be considered possible), but some form of either of them might be possible if you make them more precise. Can you try defining what sort of feature you'd like to see implemented? Also, key management is likely to be a large part of any project like this. Have you thought about how a keyring for a mailing list should be handled? Regards, --dkg

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[GSOC 2013] Introduction and Ideas
by Karthikeya Viswanath April 7, 2013

April 7, 2013

Hi, I'm Karthikeya , a 2nd year undergrad from IIT Madras in Chennai, India. I'd like to take up a Mailman project as a part of GSOC 2013. I set up Mailman 3 and started tinkering with a couple of bugs . Hope to come up with something useful soon. I went through the ideas list, and some ideas seemed interesting. In no particular order, 1. RSS , NNTP access to the archives The ideas page mentions a previous GSOC project on this. I've not been able to find it , so could someone please direct me to it? 2. Full anonymization This seems straightforward, so is there something else that can be added to it? Like enabling the hashing option for other lists in which anonymization is allowed? 3. No logging This seems a very interesting project, and something a mail archive should have. But I'm not very familiar with the laws that concern subpoena with respect to archived communication. Can someone please elaborate on this? 4. Web Posting Interface I've had experience in designing a forum structure before, and this seems a really great addition to Mailman. I also have a couple of ideas of my own, and I'd like to see how feasible they are. 1. Tags: Could we have tags for mails so we could get an idea for what the mail is about at a glance? This could also help in the metrics and also in spam reduction . ( As in undesired mails ) 2. Better filters for archive download: Give users the option to download specific threads of an archive , or all contributions by a specific user or all threads with a keyword. Last time I had to do it, I had to iterate over the entire list and save the pages manually. I have experience at programming in a wide variety of languages . I've had to set up mailman 2 for our department lists and manage them. I've worked primarily as a web designer using HTML, PHP and Django. I've longed to work on an open source project and these are my first steps at contributing to a large one. Tl;Dr :- Just another mail by a GSOC hopeful. Bit long, yes. Thank you. Karthikeya Viswanath

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Google Summer of Code'13 introduction
by Avik Pal April 7, 2013

April 7, 2013

Hello, I'm Avik, 3rd yr (junior) bachelor CS student from Bengal Engineering & Science University,Shibpur. I went through the GSOC '13 ideas list and found the project *Anti-spam/anti-abuse in mailman* very interesting. I also would like to say that I also fulfill all the necessary prerequisites given in the project ideas page. A little about myself I have about 4 years of programming experience, I am the coordinator of the Software Club in my University and help first and second year students with Algorithms, I sometimes also take coding sessions here. My team qualified for the ACM-ICPC 2012 Regionals(only team selected from my university in that region). I also have over two years experience in machine learning, NLP (just developed a very basic rudimentary twitter classifier) and have about 5 years experience in statistics. I'm hoping to participate in GSoC since while I'm an avid open-source enthusiast, I haven't had any chance in contributing to something this big before and it's about time to fix that.You can find some of my toy projects at https://github.com/avikpal I have been going through the links given in the mailman developers' page and documentations here and there, maybe you can help me with some useful resources so that right away I can start contributing by fixing small bugs and in this way sharpen my skills before GSOC actually starts. I will be accessible by email and through IRC (nick avikp at freenode), but since my time zone is UTC+5:30, I might not be there at all times just drop me a mail and I will get in touch as soon as possible. Avik Pal Bengal Engineering & Scieence University,Shibpur github:https://github.com/avikpal IRC:- irc://freenode/avikp,isnick twitter:-https://twitter.com/avikpalme

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration
by Paul Wise April 6, 2013

April 6, 2013

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Abhilash Raj wrote: > I am a undergrad student interested in OpenPGP integration in mailman as a > GSOC project this summer. Cool! I'm not sure about the scope of your project but you may want to review some prior efforts: http://schleuder2.nadir.org/ http://www.synacklabs.net/projects/crypt-ml/ My pet favourite feature from the lurker mail archiver is showing photos from OpenPGP keys in the archive pages. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/

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GSOC Project idea: OpenPGP integration
by Abhilash Raj April 6, 2013

April 6, 2013

Hello all, I am a undergrad student interested in OpenPGP integration in mailman as a GSOC project this summer. I haven't worked around with security and encryption but want to attempt this project for i find this interesting. I have prior experience in python and have worked in frameworks like django, tornado. I have installed mailman(v3.0.0b3) and trying to play around with it. It would be really nice if i could get some input from you all to go along with this project as this is a new topic for me. Thanks -- Abhilash Raj

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GSOC 2013 - Introduction and Project Discussion
by Udit Saxena April 6, 2013

April 6, 2013

Hey. I'm interested in participating in GSoC this year and I thought that GNU Mailman would be a good choice because I really wanted to get more involved in python-devs. After going through the list of proposed projects I have listed the projects I think I will be able to complete over the summer. Any inputs from your side ? 1. Authenticated REST-API in Postorius/Django 2. Web Posting Interface. And OpenPGP integration is something I would really interested in learning about but have no prior experience or knowledge about how to go about it. Can you guys guide me to someone who is overlooking these projects ? I would like to ask a few questions. I am Udit, a student in BITS Pilani, India doing my bachelors in Computer Science Engineering. I have experience in coding in python, php, C/C++ and web dev. Currently I am focusing on getting acquainted with Django and trying to fix the easy bugs I find. Thanks. -- --------------------------------------- Udit Saxena Student, BITS Pilani

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 : Authenticated REST-API in Postorius/Django
by Richard Wackerbarth April 5, 2013

April 5, 2013

Welcome to our community, I'm happy to see that you are interested in the REST interfaces. In addition to TastyPie, I suggest that you also look at django-rest-framework. Please compare the two and let us know what you see as the advantages and disadvantages of each. Richard On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Rahul Gaur <rahul.nbg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have been searching for Python/Django projects for a while and I > stumbled upon the Mailman ideas page today. > I am very much interested in discussing more about the *Authenticated > REST-API in Postorius/Django *and I hope to work on it over the summer *, *but > let me first introduce my self. > > I am into third year of my engineering (Computer Science) and I have been > using Python since my first year and for the past couple of months I have > been using Django for experimental projects at college and for a interest > based social networking site(initially started from pinax). > > I have already cloned the Mailman code base and it's up and running , I > will go through the source code in next couple of days. > > I haven't implemented RESTful API's before , but I have started learning > more about REST and HTTP protocols already and I hope that I would be in a > better state by the time GSOC starts. > > At the moment I am experimenting with the Django Tastypie and I have been > wondering if the developers community here have been considering it or > anything similar to it ? > > I would like to get more involved with this project , if this is something > community is seeking currently . > > Please advice, how can I proceed.

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GSoC 2013 - GNU Mailman - Introduction and Project Discussion
by Sreyanth April 4, 2013

April 4, 2013

Hi all! I am interested to participate in GSoC this year and would like to choose GNU Mailman for it. I have gone through the proposed ideas and I would like people to tell if they are feasible for one summer! 1. Boilerplate stripper AND Better content-filtering / handling error messages. 2. No-logging mode. 3. Anti-spam / anti-abuse in Mailman. 4. My own project idea: Mining the list logs and recognize interesting patterns for better enhancements (the admin need not have data mining experience) By far, I am looking to duplicate bugs on my comp and am aiming at writing a patch or two before the student deadline, so that I have much more time to work on my application. # Bragging mode ON. You may want to skip this. And, let me introduce myself. I am Sreyantha Chary (lets make it Sreyanth), a 3rd year undergrad majoring in Computer Engineering at the National Institute of Technology Karnataka. I wont consider myself an expert in python programming, but yeah, I am good enough to work on intermediate projects. I have used Django for my university projects and loved it. Research wise, I am into Machine Learning, Information Retrieval and Data Mining. And coding wise, I try crazy stuff, sometimes just to check if I remember anything from the documentation! # Bragging mode OFF. People, please let me know your take on the projects I am interested in. How far is my proposed idea feasible? Thanks in advance. Thanks for your time! * Thanks and regards * * * *Mora Sreyantha Chary* *Computer Engineering '14* *National Institute of Technology Karnataka* *Surathkal, India 575 025*

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