Mailman 3 February 2014 - Mailman-Developers

Continuous integration tool for the Mailman suite
by Shubham Somani 20 Feb '14

20 Feb '14

Hi, My Name is Shubham Somani. I am a final year student at Delhi College of Engineering. I am a successful Google Summer of Code 2013 student. I wish to participate in this year's Google Summer of Code with Mailman. Creating a continuous integration tool for the Mailman suite seemed like an interesting project to me and I have built Mailman's code with Vagrant and Chef. I would be very glad if some one could provide me pointers of what to do next to contribute to this project. Thanks! Shubham

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Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2014 FAQs
by Stephen J. Turnbull 15 Feb '14

15 Feb '14

Zeel Shah writes: > I want to request any mentor out there please throw some light about these > two projects. We're still in the application process. You're probably not going to get a lot of love from mentors until after the 24th, when Google announces the accepted orgs, or perhaps later if we need to negotiate with an umbrella org such as the Python Software Foundation. So please be patient. Personally I can't give you a lot of encouragement. I'm interested in the core, and especially in authn/authz/signature/encryption issues, not so much Postorius. And I don't know anything about Android (or iOS for that matter) development. So I'm not a likely candidate to mentor those projects. > During installing mailman in my laptop as described in following link ( > http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI…) > in the following step: > > (postorius)$ cd mailman > (postorius)$ python setup.py install > (postorius)$ bin/buildout > (postorius)$ bin/test > > I am not able to go ahead from the third step. Which is as follows: > $ bin/buildout > bash: bin/buildout: No such file or directory Didn't your university teach not to trust anything you read on the 'net? ;-) Mailman 3 (core) has transitioned away from buildout, and now uses setup.py only. Look for instructions in src/mailman/docs/START.rst. Good luck!

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Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2014 FAQs
by Zeel Shah 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

Hi, I want to take part in GSOC 2014 under 'mailman' organization. When I went through organization's idea page( http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2014) for gsoc 2014, I liked following two projects. 1) Postorius Responsive UI 2) Android/iOS/Ubuntu Phone/Cordova app for Mailman administration I want to request any mentor out there please throw some light about these two projects. During installing mailman in my laptop as described in following link ( http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI…) in the following step: (postorius)$ cd mailman (postorius)$ python setup.py install (postorius)$ bin/buildout (postorius)$ bin/test I am not able to go ahead from the third step. Which is as follows: $ bin/buildout bash: bin/buildout: No such file or directory Please guide me to install mailman so that this process will be easy for me. Regards, zeel On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Terri Oda <terrioda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Off the top of my head, I don't recall any projects related to AST > specifically. (I'm cc'ing the org admin list in case my co-admin noticed > one while he was reviewing ideas pages today, though.) > > If you'd like to work with AST in particular, you should talk to the > developers who work on it about being involved in GSoC. There's still time > to gather together enough mentors to sponsor a project, but unless you've > got at least one, preferably two or three mentors on board, it's unlikely > to happen. > > The python projects that I do know are participating are all up on our > wiki page: > https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2014 > > I expect that there won't be a complete list there until around March 1st. > From last year's experience, I can tell you that I will get an influx of > additional projects starting after the mentoring orgs are announced by > Google. > > In the meantime, that page contains suggestions on how to get started. > Good luck! > > Terri > > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Zeel Shah <kshah215(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am Zeel from India and want to take part in GSOC 2014. Can you tell me >> is there any projects related to AST, compiler in python that I can >> contribute. Can you suggest python projects in these or other areas so that >> I can start preparing for Gsoc. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> *Zeel Shah* >> *Research Student* >> *Aspiring Minds Assessment Pvt Ltd.* >> *Gurgaon, IN* >> *+91-9724960102 <%2B91-9724960102>* >> *Blog : http://magnificientzps.blogspot.in/ >> <http://magnificientzps.blogspot.in/>* >> *E-Mail : kshah215(a)gmail.com <kshah215(a)gmail.com> * >> >> > -- *Zeel Shah* *Research Student* *Aspiring Minds Assessment Pvt Ltd.* *Gurgaon, IN* *+91-9724960102* *Blog : http://magnificientzps.blogspot.in/ <http://magnificientzps.blogspot.in/>* *E-Mail : kshah215(a)gmail.com <kshah215(a)gmail.com> * -- *Zeel Shah* *Research Student* *Aspiring Minds Assessment Pvt Ltd.* *Gurgaon, IN* *+91-9724960102* *Blog : http://magnificientzps.blogspot.in/ <http://magnificientzps.blogspot.in/>* *E-Mail : kshah215(a)gmail.com <kshah215(a)gmail.com> *

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GSOC Idea : Continuous integration tool for the mailman suite and postorius improvements
by Varun Sharma 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hello everyone, I will be applying this year too for mailman and this time i'll be putting my best effort. I just went through gsoc ideas list posted by florian today and i am thinking of combining multiple projects listed on ideas page into a single project which i think i'll be able to complete within given timeframe. *Project : Continuous integration tool for the mailman suite and postorius improvements* *Continuous integration tool for mailman suite:* Everyone will agree on the fact that installing mailman 3 suite is little bit complex. We can we use buildbot's/jenkin's intergration and unit tests to make sure everything is working fine. I am not sure whether we should use buildbot or jenkins but i think as buildbot is written in python, so it will be easy to integrate. I really need suggestions and guidance from community on this. *Postorius improvements:* Postorius has improved a lot from what it was one year back but i think there are few improvements that can be done like: *Test Suite:* 1. Writing doctests and unit tests for all the postorius data flow. (I intend to complete all the unit tests and doctests for postorius simultaniously, so it will be easy to understand and extend) *UI:* 1. Option to convert mailman user to django user and vice-versa. (Right now new django users can only be created via persona, i think we should have an option to convert mailman users into django users and maybe give an option to sign up without persona) 2. Better user info display by adding UserProfile class. (Last year it was under community discussions whether to create an extra UserProfile class for users to save their extra info, i think this issue needs further discussions in community) 3. Adding ToDo functionality. (This is a little bit complex thing to implement but last year i had short discussions with barry and wacky about possible implementations in postorius and they told that something like this is available in core mailman) 4. Responsive css (Adding responsible css is important but won't take more than 1-2 days to implement) I will be posting my code updates on https://code.launchpad.net/~varun . I need guidance from community on the best approach and practice to implement my project. Thanks Varun

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GSOC Idea : Continuous integration tool for the mailman suite and postorius improvements
by Varun Sharma 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hello everyone, I will be applying this year too for mailman and this time i'll be putting my best effort. I just went through gsoc ideas list posted by florian today and i am thinking of combining multiple projects listed on ideas page into a single project which i think i'll be able to complete within given timeframe. *Project : Continuous integration tool for the mailman suite and postorius improvements* *Continuous integration tool for mailman suite:* Everyone will agree on the fact that installing mailman 3 suite is little bit complex. We can we use buildbot's/jenkin's intergration and unit tests to make sure everything is working fine. I am not sure whether we should use buildbot or jenkins but i think as buildbot is written in python, so it will be easy to integrate. I really need suggestions and guidance from community on this. *Postorius improvements:* Postorius has improved a lot from what it was one year back but i think there are few improvements that can be done like: *Test Suite:* 1. Writing doctests and unit tests for all the postorius data flow. (I intend to complete all the unit tests and doctests for postorius simultaniously, so it will be easy to understand and extend) *UI:* 1. Option to convert mailman user to django user and vice-versa. (Right now new django users can only be created via persona, i think we should have an option to convert mailman users into django users and maybe give an option to sign up without persona) 2. Better user info display by adding UserProfile class. (Last year it was under community discussions whether to create an extra UserProfile class for users to save their extra info, i think this issue needs further discussions in community) 3. Adding ToDo functionality. (This is a little bit complex thing to implement but last year i had short discussions with barry and wacky about possible implementations in postorius and they told that something like this is available in core mailman) 4. Responsive css (Adding responsible css is important but won't take more than 1-2 days to implement) I will be posting my code updates on https://code.launchpad.net/~varun . I need guidance from community on the best approach and practice to implement my project. Thanks Varun

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GSoC 2014 ideas list
by Terri Oda 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

I've had prospective Google Summer of Code students emailing me since, uh, September or so... so I guess it's time to talk ideas! I've set up a wiki page, as usual: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2014 But let's start with here: what small projects would you like to see us sponsor this year? I think we'll need to be more selective about the final list, but let's start with some brainstorming!

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Getting Introduced with the Community and Looking forward to Contribute to the Project as part of Gsoc 2014
by Nitika 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

Hi, Firstly I, Nitika would like to introduce myself to the developers of this commmunity. I am currently pursuing Computer Science and Engineering at Netaji Subhash Institute of Technology INDIA. I have been following the discussions on the mailing list for past few months. I had got an indepth knowledge of the tools used for the development of open source software. My skills include Programming languages: GNU C/C++, Python, Javascript, Version control systems Git/Github and SVN. I am also aware with many of the web development application tools and content management systems. I am an ambitous person willing to learn other technologies when need in future. I choose this organisation for the contribution as the work the community does looks very appealing and interesting to me and useful for the whole community. The skills used by the organisation for the development of open source software matches with my skills to much extent. I had installed the required necessary tools and setup the environment in my system needed for the contribution to open source software. I had got myself aware of the source to some extent and had forked on my github account. I had also read the contribution, development tutorial on the community webpage. I would like to seek the mentors help in the selection of the project for which the idea has been proposed for the Gsoc and someone is willing to mentor the project idea. I will highly appreciate with any kind of help, guidance from the mentors to help me move forward to contribute to the software starting off with some easy tasks and then moving levels higher so as to make a strong proposal for the upcoming Google Summer of Code 2014. [1] Github : https://github.com/NitikaAgarwal [2] IRC : nitika18 *--Nitika Agarwal*

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[GSoC 2014] Interested in contributing to Mailman, Need guidance.
by Pranjal Mittal 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

Hi there, I am Pranjal; A final year student at Indian Institute of Technology, Varanasi, India.I am familiar with Python, Javascript, C/C++ and HTML/CSS. I have good experience working with Django/Python and have worked on many web applications from development to deployment. I really love contributing to open source and some of my open source contributions can be viewed on Github [1]. As I worked on one of my previous project for Google Cloud Developer Challenge 2013 caled Makemymails [2] (GCDC 2013 finalist), I developed a lot of interest in emails, SMTP, MTA's and Google APIs. I have always loved working on Django/Python and web technologies in general. I would love to get actively involved with the Mailman community, contribute code, discuss ideas and am happy to learn new things :) GSoC 2014 will be a really nice opportunity to build a plan, hack on a great new feature for Mailman and an opportunity for me to work in my area of interest. *I am looking for some guidance to get started and also a possible topic on which I could contribute effectively*. I spent a few days going through the docs of (Mailman 2.1) , and wikis for Mailman 3 and had some questions. I will write about them soon (separately). Looking forward to hear back and some guidance to get setup with the source code and required libraries. (I am using Linux - Ubuntu 12.04) Thanks :) Kind Regards, - Pranjal IRC (Freenode): *pmittal* [1] http://github.com/pramttl [2] gcdc2013-makemymails.appspot.com [3] http://www.google.com/events/gcdc2013/finalists.html [3] pranjalmittal.in -- Pranjal Mittal Indian Institute of Technology,BHU Varanasi, U.P, India

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Contribution to Mailman Project Ideas as part of Gsoc 2014
by Nitin Agarwal 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

Hi, Here, its Nitin Agarwal, an open source software developer and enthusiast. I am currently pursuing Computer science and Engineering at International Institute of Information Technology INDIA. I am having experience working with the open source orgnisations and the open source software workflow development. My Programming languages that I used to code are GNU C/C++, Python, Javascript, many of the other web technologies, CMS and other tools. I would like to contribute to the Project Idea which uses python as the core language and ambitious to learn other technologies needed.I would to start off with this project early enough, pursue it though Gsoc 2014 and then contribute as an active member to the Mailman community. I would like to discuss the project idea with the associated mentors of this project and would start contributing to it. One can contact me on IRC : nitinagarwal3006 at Freenode *Nitin Agarwal* Website : www.nitinagarwal.in Github : *https://github.com/NitinAgarwal <https://github.com/NitinAgarwal>*IRC : nitinagarwal3006 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nitinagarwal3006

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Updating the template HTML and including CSS?
by Ricardo Lafuente 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

Hi everyone, I have a little itch with Mailman and would like to know the best way to scratch it for everyone. I've looked into the current bzr version and the templates are still very old HTML, using hard-coded styles and, in some places, incorrect markup and unclosed tags (I can dig some examples up if necessary.) I can't come up with a proper reason to keep using outdated HTML, but I'm happy to be corrected if there is a specific reason to keep it so. I've also found an attempt to bring the markup up to date in this bug report with an attached patch from 4 years ago; https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/398030 However, the patch is pretty large and incorporating it into the codebase would be non-trivial (plus it's certainly outdated), so I understand why it's been sitting there forgotten. I'd like to take up the task of reviewing the patch and create a branch where changes would be properly documented in commit logs, following the Mailman development guidelines, so that it could be easily merged into the main branch. I would only like to ask the Mailman devs if this would be a desirable goal, since it only makes sense for me to work on this if there's openness for this to be included in the main branch. I've searched for previous instances of this discussion, so please excuse me if I missed any existing efforts on this front, and would appreciate any kind of pointers with regards to updating HTML and including CSS in Mailman templates. Thank you! :r

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