Mailman 3 December 2015 - Mailman-Developers

before next release: disable backscatter in default installation
by Jo Rhett Nov. 7, 2022

Nov. 7, 2022

Hi. There's a fairly simple problem here that needs to be addressed. And it's mostly a documentation/install problem. I'm hoping we can get this resolved before the next release. PROBLEM: Mailman comes out of the box ready to backscatter spam people. Yes, it's easy enough to fix. But because it comes stock this way, and is documented to install this way, most people install it to do this. Those of us who work in abuse departments are tired of hearing "well that's how Mailman … [View More]

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Let's try to package mailman3 in Debian!
by Pierre-Elliott Bécue Feb. 22, 2016

Feb. 22, 2016

Hey, As a Debian fanboy and also a mailman addict, I'd like to try packaging it in Debian. As I'm not a DD and as I'm not in a hurry, I'd like to take some time to think about what would be relevant. For that, I'd like to have some help. And I was suggested to come here and ask. I decided to use https://gitlab.com/groups/mailman as a basis for my work. First of all, to create the source package, I've to think about what to put in it. It seems that if I want to have a good source package, I … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Student looking to contribute towards GNU Mailman
by Stephen J. Turnbull Jan. 2, 2016

Jan. 2, 2016

Rishab Jaju writes: > Hi Abhilash, > > I am interested in the following project: "Subscriber Profile > Pages". Can I work on this project, or is somebody else working on > it? Even if somebody else is working on it, they may appreciate the help. Even if they are but don't want help, you can try yourself (but of course competing implementations means yours is less likely to actually get integrated). Now that you have posted here, I would recommend getting to work unless … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Student looking to contribute towards GNU Mailman
by Abhilash Raj Dec. 31, 2015

Dec. 31, 2015

Hi Rishab, On 12/29/2015 06:32 PM, Rishab Jaju wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I am a third year student looking to contribute towards GNU Mailman for the > upcoming Google Summer of Code program. > > I am very proficient in C++, Java, Python and Scheme. I have done some > projects in machine learning as well as NLP. > > What level of knowledge would I need to contribute to the project? What > sort of project would be appropriate for my skill set? There is no … [View More]

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Student looking to contribute towards GNU Mailman
by Rishab Jaju Dec. 30, 2015

Dec. 30, 2015

Hello everybody, I am a third year student looking to contribute towards GNU Mailman for the upcoming Google Summer of Code program. I am very proficient in C++, Java, Python and Scheme. I have done some projects in machine learning as well as NLP. What level of knowledge would I need to contribute to the project? What sort of project would be appropriate for my skill set? Thank you, Rishab Jaju.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Website re-org?
by Barry Warsaw Dec. 27, 2015

Dec. 27, 2015

On Dec 24, 2015, at 09:55 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >In my opinion, that link should replace ALL other links under the >Documentation menu at the top of the home page (www.list.org), and it >should clearly specify MM 3, something like: > > Documentation > > Mailman 3 => http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/ > >I am ready (finally) to start new lists with MM 3 and that, I assume, >is where I should look. Although, I do like the "quick links" nature of the … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 3 REST API
by Barry Warsaw Dec. 26, 2015

Dec. 26, 2015

On Dec 24, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >Where should I look for the complete, definitive documentation on the >MM3 REST API? Sadly, there's no programmatic way to gather the specifications for the REST API. The best you have is the online documentation... http://mailman.readthedocs.org/en/latest/README.html ...and the source. You can refer to two other projects which access the API though, and which might also help. https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailmanclient - is the … [View More]

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MM 3 REST API
by Tom Browder Dec. 24, 2015

Dec. 24, 2015

Where should I look for the complete, definitive documentation on the MM3 REST API? I would like to use Perl for my bulk handling of mailing lists, subscriptions, etc. Thanks! -Tom

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Website re-org?
by Terri Oda Dec. 24, 2015

Dec. 24, 2015

Abhilash did a lovely job on the new website, but while the layout has changed, a lot of the content hasn't. And I'm not sure what we've got lines up very with what people want out of our website, so I'm thinking about re-organizing. Right now, I suspect that when people visit list.org, these are the things they want to do: 1. Find out what mailman is. We're good at that right now: there's good info on the main page and then links to features. 2. Find out how to get and install the … [View More]latest version of Mailman. Need improvement here. Mailman 2.1 download links are good. Mailman 3 directs you to PyPI but then there's nothing explaining about how Mailman now is a suite and it's this bunch of packages. Also nothing about how you can use mailman-bundler rather than trying to make the magic happen yourself. I wrote something up and put in a merge request, pending someone proofreading it: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-website/merge_requests/5 3. Find out how to report a bug We kind of fail on this one, except if you want to report a security issue. Again, this is more complex than it might seem since there's a bunch of different components. 4. Find the docs / get help with an issue. The good: they're linked right there in the top bar. The bad: is someone looking at this going to know they want the docs for postorius vs hyperkitty? Will any of that make sense? I think we might need a landing page here. We do have a "help" link and the "wiki" link in this area too, but I think a landing page could bring this all together more nicely. 5. Find out how to contribute. This is going to be especially gsoc students. We've got some nice developer links and yeay, this is one of the pages that lists out all the parts of Mailman! But we could really use a startup guide here. We do have a nice Donate link for financial contributions, though. 6. Figure out how to get in touch with us. This page is pretty decent, with the mailing lists and IRC and all. Maybe if we had a "how to report a bug" page it should be linked here, but otherwise full marks. 7. Learn more about Mailman We've got some good resources: features, media, the code of conduct, etc. But probably we should group this all together so that it's easier for people to find the other important things they want without wading through all these links. I'd suggest we keep the top of page links as they are, since they're super useful to people who know what they're looking for already, and have the left side menu be more about the guides. But I think we should replace all the links down the left-hand side of the page with links that match up with those goals, so the menu would probably look something like: * About Mailman - combine all the about mailman stuff here, although we also want to leave the main page as is, so there may be a bit of duplication here. * Get Mailman - Links to source code and install guides, high level description of what to do. * Help and Documentation - landing page with a link to the docs, wiki and mailing lists, with instructions. Maybe some search boxes? Userguides go here too. * Report an issue / Contact Us - landing page with reminder about reporting security bugs, links to bug trackers, mailing lists, irc * How to Contribute - new contributors guide here, prefaced by the basic source/gitlab links Thoughts on better ways to set this up? Other suggestions of things people often want out of our website? Terri [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 production setup testbed
by Terri Oda Dec. 21, 2015

Dec. 21, 2015

On 2015-11-24 7:32 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > My confusion relates to the virtual environment that I create. I am > running from the dedicated MM3 user I created, and I am looking to > expand the bundler from the user’s home directory in /home (for > example). When I create the virtual environment, the files are all > held in this directory, and I really want the MM3 to be installed > system wide as this will be the only program running on this machine. > Do I even need … [View More]

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