Mailman 3 February 2015 - Mailman-Developers

MIME footers
by Murray S. Kucherawy 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

Hi there, A while back I introduced an experimental draft about DKIM signature generation that's sensitive to MIME structure. I'm planning to revisit and maybe even implement this to get some experimentation going. It would help guide the design work if I knew this: How does, or how would, Mailman add a footer to a MIME message? My guess is that it would make a multipart that contains the original message (message/rfc822) as one part and the footer as a text/plain in a second part, but that's purely a guess. Equally important: What would it do to sign a message that's not MIME to begin with? Could it be compelled to turn it into a MIME message, perhaps treating the original as a single-part text/plain message and doing the same wrapping I described? Thanks, -MSK

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Redesign of List.org
by Athyuttam Reddy 23 Feb '15

23 Feb '15

Hello all, I’m a student of computer science and design at Brown University. Having recently worked with Mailman setup, I’ve also been following the developer conversations. I notice that on the to-do list, one of the entries is: "Update visual style and information architecture of list.org and the wiki to feel more unified, be more navigable, and present a modern appearance” How can I contribute to the redesign? I’d love to work alongside anyone already taking the lead on this, and put my branding + UI/UX experience to use. Sorry if this wasn’t the best way to post this request, but thanks very much in advance. Best, Atty Eleti

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSoC14] Full Anonymization Project Idea
by Rashi Karanpuria 22 Feb '15

22 Feb '15

I totally understand that claiming to provide total privacy to any individual could be vague and debatable in this case. And if we apply the usual encryption it becomes very easy to hack. So using normal cryptography is ruled out. But if we could implement salting. We generate a salt when a user is joins this list. It is stored in the database with the individual's password and other details (assuming the SQL database used is secure and does not give access rights to the moderator or any one else). When user sends a mail we store the salt used and fake mail id generated in another database (follows the previous assumptions). In case of reply to same address we lookup the fake mail id and corresponding salt and regenerate the address simultaneously applying the process of fake mail id generation to the sender's mail id this time. Also we need to filter the header from all the possible traces. But then it depends on the accessibility of the database in question. Also if we need to implement these processes someplace that is secure from middle men or malware (server may be). Or may be I guess the only way around is to trust the list admin but then it won't be able to serve the needs when we wish to keep this thing out of the hands of the admin. It then only keeps users anonymous from each other while the admin knows everything. If I am still thinking it all the wrong way. Please guide me as to how do I approach the problem.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Prospective applicant for GSoC-2015
by Aanand Shekhar Roy 22 Feb '15

22 Feb '15

Hi, Welcome! You may start off by setting up your development environment. You may refer to http://wiki.list.org/DEV/A%205%20minute%20guide%20to%20get%20the%20Mailman%… .If you run into any problem, you can also contact on IRC channel #mailman. :) > Hello! > My name is Aditya, studying Computer Science at Bangalore. I am currently > in the third year and have good experience with Python. > How may I start contributing to mailman? > > Regards, > > -- > Aditya Dalwani > P.E.S Institute of Technology, > Bangalore, India > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/2013001%40iiitdm… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 >

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Prospective applicant for GSoC-2015
by Pranjal Yadav 21 Feb '15

21 Feb '15

Hello Aditya I would suggest mailman wiki and setting up mailman would be a good start and from there your can to jump beginner friendly bugs. http://wiki.list.org/DEV/A%205%20minute%20guide%20to%20get%20the%20Mailman%… https://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/docs/START.html Above 2 links will give you a good start, also you can join mailman on IRC. For GSoC 2015 go through http://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google_Summer_of_Code_2015 and try to select and understand any one of the projects ( you can of course come up with your own ideas and projects however you can trust me that mailman admins design these projects very carefully and practically as well as they are aligned with mailman milestones, so your own idea might need a evaluation before proceeding) On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Aditya Dalwani <adit.39(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello! > My name is Aditya, studying Computer Science at Bangalore. I am currently > in the third year and have good experience with Python. > How may I start contributing to mailman? > > Regards, > > -- > Aditya Dalwani > P.E.S Institute of Technology, > Bangalore, India > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/godricglow%40gma… > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > -- *Pranjal Yadav* *IIT Kharagpur*

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Introduction and Issues with the mailman interface.
by Acho Arnold 21 Feb '15

21 Feb '15

Good day comrades. My name is Acho Arnold and I am a junior full stack web developer and I would like to contribute to this project. I have been using mailman for a long time now and I've always wondered why the interface looked **poor** in my opinion. The UI is composed of mainly text and it looks dirty to me. I would like to know if you guys (developers) also share my pain or if there is a specific reason why the UI hasn't been cleaned up? I talked with the developers on the Freenode irc channel and i leaned that there is a plan for the UI improvements. I would like to contribute in making this change. Please can someone give me an update on the status of the UI improvements? PS: Is there anyone here from Cameroon or Africa? Thanks -- Acho Arnold Ewin <http://goo.gl/2hwP4m> Telephone: (+237) 695 233 475 Buea, Cameroon arnold(a)archlinux.info <mailto:arnold@archlinux.info>

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Prospective applicant for GSoC-2015
by Aditya Dalwani 21 Feb '15

21 Feb '15

Hello! My name is Aditya, studying Computer Science at Bangalore. I am currently in the third year and have good experience with Python. How may I start contributing to mailman? Regards, -- Aditya Dalwani P.E.S Institute of Technology, Bangalore, India

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Plug-in Ideas for Gsoc 2015
by Aanand Shekhar Roy 20 Feb '15

20 Feb '15

Hi everyone, We had discussed few plug-in ideas here among which following were found to be suitable: 1.Automoderation system for limiting post - Fexible automoderation system. Lot of moderators (and even more subscribers!) who would love to have long threads throttled (the first 10 messages delivered immediately, the next 10 with 3 hours delay, the next 10 with 6 hours delay, and after that doubling delay every 10 posts. 2.Asking for confirmation if a member's post include confidential information. 3.Timed vacations, allowing a user to postpone or discard emails on some lists for a certain number of days or weeks. So,I wish to ask can we put (1) and (3) on mailman wiki page of idea list for Gsoc'15. Among all ideas that have been accepted and discussed,I am interested in the following: The three mentioned above along with Banned word list as mentioned on the wiki.

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Postorius test debugging problem : tests_forms.py
by Pranjal Yadav 20 Feb '15

20 Feb '15

I started writing tests to improve the coverage for postorius and I ran into few problems which I couldn't solve for past few days. I added few new test cases and re-ran tox. It seems somehow none of the tests ran although the tox output says "ran 11 tests in 72.332s, failures = 3" Here is the link to my tests : http://pastebin.com/1jLhVsr2 I did change a few things in forms.py : http://pastebin.com/2P3vXW7W After running these tests I realized UserNewTest and ListNewTest never runs, though tox outputs it ran 11 test and failed 3 (mainly the assertTrue for listname, password and email methods), when I tried tox -e py27-django1.7 -- postorius.tests.test_forms.UserNewTest, it says 0 tests ran in 0.001s 1) So I don't understand why the assertTrue validation is failing though all the inputs to the form is prefect? I talked to Aurelien and Abhliash and also followed ( https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/ref/forms/validation/#validating-fiel…) however it left me with the same situation. 2) If the tests run with tox then why do they not run when a particular testcase is tested? 3) I discussed this problem with Aurelien and he mentioned "Form class shouldn't do anything in its __init__ function" however we do have __inti__ functions in our forms.py. So do we need to modify something there? -- *Pranjal Yadav*

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Should REST API /addresses data be including the user_id field?
by Andrew Stuart 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

This command: curl --header "authorization: Basic cmVzdGFkbWluOnJlc3RwYXNz" http://localhost:8001/3.0/addresses Returns this data: {"entries": [{"http_etag": "\"3045a243ea206ca6e112269f4c0ce8c4a66a92bf\"", "registered_on": "2015-02-19T03:52:55.460036", "display_name": "Server Owner", "self_link": "http://localhost:8001/3.0/addresses/theboss@example.org", "email": "theboss(a)example.org", "user": "http://localhost:8001/3.0/users/49955403891644350774308934370095835248", "original_email": "theboss(a)example.org"}, {"http_etag": "\"140a3ed1b92f9e14eab51b1183ba87c271191a0c\"", "registered_on": "2015-02-19T23:39:43.340973", "user": "http://localhost:8001/3.0/users/316531173466190680782932225868344081837", "self_link": "http://localhost:8001/3.0/addresses/testuser@example.org", "email": "testuser(a)example.org", "original_email": "testuser(a)example.org"}], "start": 0, "http_etag": "\"cb2df4aad285c85f0128b030ca4ce786308a0b4b\"", "total_size": 2} Should the address entries include the user_id field? thanks as

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