Mailman 3 July 1998 - Mailman-Developers

big problems
by Gergely Madarasz 14 Jul '98

14 Jul '98

Hello! Two of my lists arent working. The error log says: Jul 12 16:22:30 1998 post: Traceback (innermost last): post: File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 40, in ? post: current_list = maillist.MailList(sys.argv[1]) post: File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 64, in __init__ post: self.Load() post: File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 554, in Load post: raise mm_cfg.MMBadListError, 'Failed to unmarshal config info' post: AttributeError : MMBadListError What could have caused this and how do I fix it ? Greg -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Some patch for mailman
by Janne Sinkkonen 14 Jul '98

14 Jul '98

"Dan Ohnesorg, admin on power" <Dan(a)feld.cvut.cz> writes: > I have list with 500 subscribers and 50 mesages per day, when I shall distribute > unwanted parts of this messages, I am worried. It takes many MB, winmail.dat is > many times bigger than mail itself. You can filter on the basis of headers, and reject messages which contain HTML or WINMAIL stuff. We do that and it works well. If you start doing automatically things like removing HTML, there's no end to it. It's better to educate subscribers to behave properly. -- Janne

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Some patch for mailman
by Dan Ohnesorg, admin on power 14 Jul '98

14 Jul '98

Hi everybody, I am plaing with mailman some time (John probaly remebers me) and now I see, that www.list.org is back online. So what I have, I would suggest You patch to verbose funcionality of mailman. All sugestion to my solution are welcome. What it solves, first part of patch to remove irriting headers from messages. I dont like to send messages like RCPT and so. Second uses DSN to send mails. This disables (when enabled) messages like warning, message is not delivered for 4 hours and so. Then comes some removing of winmail.dat binary attachments. I am working on removing all unwanted parts (html, rtf) and translating national characters into ascii, but is not complete yet. Then comes administrativ via filter, but it not works, it worked on mailman 1.0, but I cannot bring it running on b4, You will see, it is probably only a little bug, at least the filter shields list from administrative messages. So it is all for today, I am interested how You will find this patch, please send any comments to my. cheers dan diff -ru mailman-1.0b4/modules/mm_defaults.py mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/mm_defaults.py --- mailman-1.0b4/modules/mm_defaults.py Fri Jun 26 12:41:28 1998 +++ mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/mm_defaults.py Fri Jun 26 18:43:28 1998 @@ -202,3 +202,11 @@ # The Mailman version, also set by configure VERSION = '1.0b4' + +# Remove Microsoft binary attachments +REMOVE_WINMAIL = 1 +WINMAIL_FILTER_START = 'begin 600 WINMAIL\.DAT' +WINMAIL_FILTER_STOP = 'end' + +# Headers which are not useful +FILTER_HEADERS = ['^X-Confirm-Reading-To:','^X-pmrqc:','X-PMFLAGS:','^Return-receipt-to:'] Only in mailman-1.0b4/modules: mm_defaults.py.in diff -ru mailman-1.0b4/modules/mm_deliver.py mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/mm_deliver.py --- mailman-1.0b4/modules/mm_deliver.py Wed Jun 3 15:12:53 1998 +++ mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/mm_deliver.py Fri Jun 26 18:32:35 1998 @@ -135,6 +135,12 @@ msg.headers.append('To: %s\n' % self.GetListEmail()) else: tempfile.template = tmpfile_prefix + 'mailman.' +# Now remove unwanted headers from message + for pat in mm_defaults.FILTER_HEADERS: + try: + del msg[pat] + except: + pass if self.reply_goes_to_list: del msg['reply-to'] msg.headers.append('Reply-To: %s\n' % self.GetListEmail()) diff -ru mailman-1.0b4/modules/mm_message.py mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/mm_message.py --- mailman-1.0b4/modules/mm_message.py Tue Jun 2 04:47:11 1998 +++ mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/mm_message.py Fri Jun 26 18:01:47 1998 @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ import sys -import rfc822, string, time +import rfc822, string, time, mm_defaults, regex # Utility functions 2 of these classes use: @@ -134,6 +134,24 @@ if (string.lower(self.headers[i][:len(name)+1]) == string.lower(name) + ':'): self.headers[i] = '%s: %s' % (name, value) + + def RemoveWinmail(self): + pattern_start = regex.compile(mm_defaults.WINMAIL_FILTER_START) + pattern_stop = regex.compile(mm_defaults.WINMAIL_FILTER_STOP) + occured = 0 + mybody=[] + mybody=string.split(self.body,'\n'); + for line in mybody[:]: + if occured == 1: + if pattern_stop.match(line) > 0: + occured = 0 + mybody.remove(line) + elif pattern_start.match(line) > 0: + occured = 1 + mybody.remove(line) + self.body=string.join(mybody,'\n') + + # XXX Eventually (1.5.1?) Python rfc822.Message() will have its own # __delitem__. diff -ru mailman-1.0b4/modules/smtplib.py mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/smtplib.py --- mailman-1.0b4/modules/smtplib.py Sat May 30 05:09:21 1998 +++ mailman-1.0b4.new/modules/smtplib.py Wed Jul 1 14:27:23 1998 @@ -20,6 +20,9 @@ # A lot of functionality was borrowed directly from ftplib... # John Viega (viega(a)list.org) +# Hack to use DSN, probably not the best way, but works fine +# But I have no not DSN aware server to check it without DSN + # >>> from smtplib import * # >>> s = SmtpConnection('list.org') # >>> s.helo('adder.cs.virginia.edu') @@ -27,7 +30,7 @@ # >>> s.quit() from socket import * -import string, types +import string, types, regex SMTP_PORT = 25 @@ -38,6 +41,8 @@ error_temp = 'smtplib.error_temp' # 4xx errors error_perm = 'smtplib.error_perm' # 5xx errors error_proto = 'smtplib.error_proto' # response does not begin with [1-5] +error_no_DSN = 'There is no DSN support' +DSN_support = 1 class SmtpConnection: def __init__(self, host=''): @@ -52,8 +57,15 @@ self.getresp() def helo(self, host): - self._sock.send('HELO %s\r\n' % host) - self.getresp() + self._sock.send('EHLO %s\r\n' % host) + try: + vysl = self.getresp() + except error_perm: + self._sock.send('HELO %s\r\n' % host) + self.getresp() + self.DSN_support=0 + if regex.match('.*DSN.*',vysl) == -1: + self.DSN_support=0 def quit(self): self._sock.send('QUIT\r\n') @@ -66,12 +78,16 @@ lines = string.split(text, '\n') self._sock.send('MAIL FROM: %s\r\n' % frm) self.getresp() + if DSN_support: + format = 'RCPT TO: %s NOTIFY=failure\r\n' + else: + format = 'RCPT TO: %s\r\n' if type(to) == types.StringType: - self._sock.send('RCPT TO: %s\r\n' % to) + self._sock.send(format % to) self.getresp() else: for item in to: - self._sock.send('RCPT TO: %s\r\n' % item) + self._sock.send(format % item) self.getresp() self._sock.send('DATA\r\n') self.getresp() diff -ru mailman-1.0b4/scripts/post mailman-1.0b4.new/scripts/post --- mailman-1.0b4/scripts/post Sun May 31 06:48:09 1998 +++ mailman-1.0b4.new/scripts/post Fri Jun 26 18:06:57 1998 @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ import sys import paths -import maillist, mm_message, mm_err, mm_cfg, mm_utils +import maillist, mm_message, mm_err, mm_cfg, mm_utils, string, mm_defaults try: sys.stderr = mm_utils.StampedLogger("error", label = 'post', @@ -42,6 +42,18 @@ # Only let one program run at once per list. # TODO: This can fail, and should send back an error message when it does. +commands = { + 'subscribe' : '', + 'unsubscribe' : '', + 'who' : '', + 'info' : '', + 'lists' : '', + 'help' : '', + 'set' : '', + 'options' : '', + 'password' : '', + } + current_list = maillist.MailList(sys.argv[1]) if len(sys.argv) > 2: current_list.tmp_prevent_gate = 1 @@ -60,10 +72,41 @@ else: text = sys.stdin.read() msg = mm_message.IncomingMessage(text) + if mm_defaults.REMOVE_WINMAIL: msg.RemoveWinmail() + bad_dest = 0 + subject = msg.getheader("subject") + if subject: + subject = string.strip(subject) + if commands.has_key(string.split(subject)[0]): + bad_dest = 1 + lines = string.split(msg.body, '\n') + if len(lines) >= 10: + hopcnt = range(10) + else: + hopcnt = range(len(lines)) + for i in hopcnt: + try: + string.strip(lines[i]) + except: + pass + if not lines[i]: + continue + args = string.split(lines[i]) + if len(args)>0: + cmd = string.lower(args[0]) + if commands.has_key(cmd): + bad_dest = 1 - try: + if bad_dest: + try: + current_list.ParseMailCommands() + finally: +# current_list.Unlock() + pass + else: + try: current_list.Post(msg) - except mm_err.MMNeedApproval, err_msg: + except mm_err.MMNeedApproval, err_msg: if (current_list.dont_respond_to_post_requests or err_msg == mm_err.MODERATED_LIST_MSG or err_msg == mm_err.IMPLICIT_DEST_MSG ________________________________________ DDDDDD DD DD Dan Ohnesorg, supervisor on POWER DD OOOO Dan(a)feld.cvut.cz DD OODDOO Dep. of Power Engineering DDDDDD OO CVUT FEL Prague, Bohemia OO OO work: +420 2 24352785;+420 2 24972109 OOOO home: +420 311 679679;+420 311 679311 ________________________________________ Pocitac se od televizniho divaka lisi tim, ze ma vlastni program.

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port 25 problem
by Gergely Madarasz 14 Jul '98

14 Jul '98

Hello! I've found another problem... if the cronjob that creates the digest runs at a time when sendmail is down (dunno why but it may happen), then it is lost. It would be nicer if mailman used sendmail directly, and not thru port 25. -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/

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A logging bug (and a patch)
by Janne Sinkkonen 13 Jul '98

13 Jul '98

I got these when a listadmin tried to approve/discard messages: Jul 13 12:13:23 1998 admindb: Traceback (innermost last): admindb: File "/home/mailman/scripts/admindb", line 232, in ? admindb: HandleRequests(doc) admindb: File "/home/mailman/scripts/admindb", line 125, in HandleRequests admindb: list.HandleRequest(request, v, form[comment_key].value) admindb: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/mm_admin.py", line 137, in HandleRequest admindb: self.HandlePostRequest(request_data[2:], value, comment) admindb: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/mm_admin.py", line 174, in HandlePostRequ est admindb: self.LogMsg("vette", note) admindb: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/maillist.py", line 570, in LogMsg admindb: logf.write("%s\n" % (msg % args)) admindb: TypeError : not enough arguments for format string The reasons was that one of the messages had '18% grey card' on the subject line. :) Here's patch: --- mm_admin.py~ Thu Jun 4 23:12:28 1998 +++ mm_admin.py Mon Jul 13 12:31:06 1998 @@ -171,6 +171,7 @@ note = note + "\n\tHeld: %s" % data[1] if comment: note = note + "\n\tDiscarded: %s" % comment + note = string.replace(note,'%','%%') self.LogMsg("vette", note) def HandleAddMemberRequest(self, data, value, comment): ... although I'm not sure whether this is a generic enough way to handle the problem. -- Janne

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A (the?) MIME digest / MTA problem
by Janne Sinkkonen 11 Jul '98

11 Jul '98

There exists a problem with MIME digests of b4 and some MTAs. Something in some digests makes the receiving end to think that it has received the whole message, while the sending MTA (mine was sendmail 8.8.5, now 8.9.1) thinks it failed and leaves the message to the spool. The message needs to be removed manually, for otherwise the poor subscriber will get a copy of it every time the mail queue is run, indefinitely. Does anybody know a remedy? I'm leaving for a holiday soon, and wouldn't like to write a script to be able to delete digests through my mobile phone... A maybe-related problem is that some messages are left to the mail spool even if they are expired. Apparently his has only happened with mailman, not with majordomo. (I just deleted a few thousands, the oldest dated May 1998.) Sounds like a sendmail problem, but I don't understand how it's related to mailman. -- Janne

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] A (the?) MIME digest / MTA problem
by Janne Sinkkonen 11 Jul '98

11 Jul '98

Ken Manheimer <klm(a)cnri.reston.va.us> writes: > One more thing re the sendmail problem - if it still does exist in > 8.9.1, some of us should write sendmail.org and complain. Considering > that it's a known and disruptive bug (they had it in the known-bugs list > for 8.9.0), it should have been stomped! collect.c seems like having the patch included. You're right in that the problem has been very annoying. Suddenly (no more missing digests, no more mail spool fiddling) mailman feels much better. -- Janne

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] A (the?) MIME digest / MTA problem
by Janne Sinkkonen 11 Jul '98

11 Jul '98

Gergely Madarasz <gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu> writes: > This is a bug in sendmail, it segfaults on 8bitmime digests when sending > them to hosts which don't support 8bitmime. I already wrote about this to > the list a couple of weeks ago. Btw i thought 8.9.1 already has it fixed. Thanks a lot - seems like I should read some archives... I installed 8.9.1 just an hour ago, so haven't really given it a try yet. The problems appeared with 8.8.5. -- Janne

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error handling
by Gergely Madarasz 09 Jul '98

09 Jul '98

Hello! There is a bug in 1.0b4... if someone tries to subscribe while he is already subscribed, he does not get an explanation message, but an error message from sendmail stating "Unknown mailer error". MMAlreadyAMember should be handled here Greg -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/

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default digest mode
by Gergely Madarasz 08 Jul '98

08 Jul '98

Hello! It seems that setting default digest mode to plain has no effect at all... I could not find anything related to this in ApprovedAddMember, and i guess, it should be there... is this known ? -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/

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