Mailman 3 March 1999 - Mailman-Developers

patch to fix the alias-wrapper.c
by Roger Peña Escobio 22 Mar '99

22 Mar '99

Hi... few days ago we discuses about aliases file, well... this my patch of mailman-1.0b9 to fix alias-wrapper, also fix newlist. this patch also changes the rmlist file, including an rmaliases programs (rmalias-wrapper.c, this programs edit the aliases file when you eliminate a list ). Of course, you are free to apply the patch or not, but if will do it look inside first, see what it will do and if you agree, ¡¡ great !!! lets do it :-) this line are for the brave souls :-) who like apply the patch 1-move the patch to the source dir , for example , /usr/local/src if mailman source is in /usr/local/src/mailman-1.0b9 2-rename the alias-wrapper.c source to addalias-wrapper.c , it is, mv ./mailman-1.0b9/src/alias-wrapper.c ./mailman-1.0b9/src/addalias-wrapper.c 3-exec the command : patch -p0 < mailman-1.0b9-patch-r.patch 4- if you dont get any estrange line or question every thing was fine, if not ...... check if you really have the mailman-1.0b9 version or if you are in the correct dir. 5- everything is ok ? great, now put the rmalias-wrapper.c into the src dir, it is ./mailman-1.0b9/src/ 6-now you have to check some "little" thing, first of all , my aliases file for mailman is /etc/mailman/aliases, you can change that editing the addalias-wrapper.c and rmalias-wrapper.c, is really simple, take a look, I dont know if mailman user can edit the /etc/aliases file ( I think he cant) but in the other way I prefer to have two aliases file one for system alias and another for mailman alias, if I convince you about two alias, you will have to change your sendmail.cf and create the /etc/mailman/ dir : 6.1-creating the /etc/mailman/ dir : #mkdir /etc/mailman ; chgrp mailman /etc/mailman ; chmod 755 /etc/mailman 6.2-changing the sendmail.cf: do this really depend on your OS , in RedHat you have to do this: cd /usr/lib/sendmail-cf/cf/ edit your *.mc , if you never do this before ( if you have the sendmail.cf from distribution) your *.mc is redhat.mc, put this line define(`ALIAS_FILE',`/etc/aliases,/etc/mailman/aliases') exec the command : #m4 ../m4/cf.m4 redhat.mc > myhost.cf make a copy of your old sendmail.cf : #cp /etc/sendmail.cf /etc/sendmail.cf.old copy the new *.cf file to /etc/sendmail.cf: #cp myhost.cf /etc/sendmail.cf restart sendmail: #/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart and thats all !!!! are you still with me ???? :-) 6.3-check if you have /var/tmp dir , addalias-wrapper.c and rmalias-wrapper.c need it temporally, redhat already have but other OS dont 7-the only thing that rest is run autoconf INSIDE mailman source , it is : #cd /usr/local/mailman-1.0b9 ; autoconf that is for make configure from configure.in 8-well, if you do all above you really have my mailman ready to install, so install it :-)) a final words.... maybe you think something like this "should I do all this thing instead of edit the aliases file manually?? are you crazy!!!" but you only need to do this only once, and then when you create or eliminate a list all will be do automatically. well a hope that this patch help someone . Roger

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New Mailing List
by Barry A. Warsaw 22 Mar '99

22 Mar '99

There have been a number of requests to start an announce-only list for Mailman. I've now done this http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-announce The function of the lists are now better explained on the www.list.org site. Let me know if you have any problems. -Barry

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Submission for Mailman's "contrib" directory
by bruce＠hams.com 21 Mar '99

21 Mar '99

Hi, The following script interfaces a qmail virtual domain to Mailman without the use of any aliases. That makes it a lot easier to add new lists. Could you place it in a "contrib" directory in the Mailman distribution? Thanks Bruce Perens --- cut here --- #! /usr/bin/python # Configuration variables - Change these for your site if necessary. MailmanHome = "/home/mailman"; # Mailman home directory. MailmanOwner = "postmaster@localhost"; # Postmaster and abuse mail recepient. # End of configuration variables. # qmail-to-mailman.py # # Interface mailman to a qmail virtual domain. Does not require the creation # of _any_ aliases to connect lists to your mail system. # # Bruce Perens, bruce(a)perens.com, March 1999. # This is free software under the GNU General Public License. # # This script is meant to be called from ~mailman/.qmail-default . It catches # all mail to a virtual domain, in my case "lists.hams.com". It looks at the # recepient for each mail message and decides if the mail is addressed to a # valid list or not, and bounces the message with a helpful suggestion if it's # not addressed to a list. It decides if it is a posting, a list command, or # mail to the list administrator, by checking for the -admin, -owner, and # -request addresses. It will recognize a list as soon as the list is created, # there is no need to add _any_ aliases for any list. It recognizes mail to # postmaster, mailman-owner, abuse, mailer-daemon, root, and owner, and # routes those mails to MailmanOwner as defined in the configuration # variables, above. # # INSTALLATION: # # Install this file as ~mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py # # To configure a virtual domain to connect to mailman, create these files: # # ~mailman/.qmail-default # |/usr/bin/python /home/mailman/mail-in.py # # /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains: # DOMAIN.COM:mailman # # Replace DOMAIN.COM above with the name of the domain to be connected to # Mailman. Note that _all_ mail to that domain will go to Mailman, so you # don't want to put the name of your main domain here. In my case, I created # lists.hams.com for Mailman, and I use hams.com as my regular domain. # # After you edit /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, kill and restart qmail. # import sys, os, re, string; def main(): os.nice(5); # Handle mailing lists at non-interactive priority. os.chdir(MailmanHome + "/lists"); try: local = os.environ["LOCAL"]; except: # This might happen if we're not using qmail. sys.stderr.write("LOCAL not set in environment?\n"); sys.exit(100); local = re.sub("^mailman-","",local); names = ("root", "postmaster", "mailer-daemon", "mailman-owner", "owner", "abuse"); for i in names: if i == local: os.execv("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject" ,("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject", MailmanOwner)); sys.exit(0); type = "post"; types = (("-admin$", "mailowner"), ("-owner$", "mailowner"), ("-request$", "mailcmd")); for i in types: if re.search(i[0],local): type = i[1]; local = re.sub(i[0],"",local); if os.path.exists(local): os.execv(MailmanHome + "/mail/wrapper" ,(MailmanHome + "/mail/wrapper", type, local)); else: bounce(); sys.exit(111); def bounce(): bounce_message = """\ TO ACCESS THE MAILING LIST SYSTEM: Start your web browser on http://%s/ That web page will help you subscribe or unsubscribe, and will give you directions on how to post to each mailing list.\n"""; sys.stderr.write(bounce_message % (os.environ["HOST"])); sys.exit(100); try: sys.exit(main()); except SystemExit, argument: sys.exit(argument); except Exception, argument: info = sys.exc_info(); trace = info[2]; sys.stderr.write("%s %s\n" % (sys.exc_type, argument)); sys.stderr.write("Line %d\n" % (trace.tb_lineno)); sys.exit(111); # Soft failure, try again later. --- cut here ---

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Jitterbug for Mailman
by Barry A. Warsaw 20 Mar '99

20 Mar '99

Hey folks, sorry I've been so unresponsive lately. Anyway, I have installed Jitterbug on python.org for managing bug reports on Mailman. Hopefully this will work better than trying to use my inbox :-). If Jitterbug works out well, I plan on creating interfaces for other python.org projects. To check out the Jitterbug reporting interface for Mailman, please see http://www.python.org/mailman-bugs Let me know if you have any problems. -Barry

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Automatically update aliases again (fix alias wrapper)
by Roger Peña Escobio 17 Mar '99

17 Mar '99

hello to mailman developers :-) i was posted few weeks ago two messages, both about the subject of this messages but nobody was interesting on that. Today while i was looking on "The Mailman TODO list" web page i look that this problems are unsolved yet , if anybody are interesting in how can fix it , this is my e-mail, roger(a)infomed.sld.cu , please e-mailme . Also i have a c programs for edit the aliases file when the admin remove a list. Good luck Roger

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MailMan Bug since 1.0b7
by Sylvain Bolduc 16 Mar '99

16 Mar '99

I'm getting that bug when i'm approving a message since MailMan v1.0 b7. Is there any way to fix that ? admin: [----- Mailman Version: 1.0b9 -----] admin: [----- Traceback ------] admin: Traceback (innermost last): admin: File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin: main() admin: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 124, in main admin: HandleRequests(doc) admin: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 214, in HandleRequests admin: list.HandleRequest(request, v) admin: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 122, in HandleRequest admin: self.HandlePostRequest(request_data[2:], value, comment) admin: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 131, in HandlePostRequest admin: self.Post(msg, 1) admin: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1160, in Post admin: self.DeliverToList(msg, recipients, admin: File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 173, in DeliverToList admin: status = cmdproc.close() admin: IOError: (10, 'No child processes') admin: [----- Environment Variables -----] admin: HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip admin: MAIL: /var/spool/mail/root admin: CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencode admin: WN_ROOT: /www/htdocs admin: HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en admin: URL_SCHEME: http admin: GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin: HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* admin: _: /www/htdocs/mailman/admindb admin: ENV: /root/.bashrc admin: HOSTTYPE: i386 admin: SCRIPT_FILENAME: /www/htdocs/mailman/admindb admin: PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman admin: PATH: /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/binvt100:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin admin: USERNAME: root admin: DOCUMENT_ROOT: /www/htdocs admin: HISTFILESIZE: 1000 admin: HTTP_POST_FILE: /tmp/wn_tmp65534/WNpost-36ee8d26-643d-0 admin: WN_DIR_PATH: /www/htdocs/mailman admin: OSTYPE: Linux Thank You! Sylvain Bolduc UniGlobal 1801, McGill College, suite 1010 Montreal (Quebec) H3A 2N4 Tel: (514) 840-1158 poste 351 Fax: (514) 840-1166 sbolduc(a)uni-global.com http://www.uni-global.com

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Ignore my patches
by Christopher Lindsey 15 Mar '99

15 Mar '99

<SIGH>. I think in the future I'll forward my patches and ideas to Barry and let him tell me what I'm missing... If only Python were more intuitive... :) The problem with the first patch (leaving the base URL empty) is that it breaks footers on every message sent out that refers to that URL. Although I think that if no URL is specified, the footers should use the default... The problem with my second patch (allowing multiple admins from newlist) is that the mailto: link breaks on all admin pages. Chris

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Stand-alone Mailman
by Christopher Petrilli 15 Mar '99

15 Mar '99

Gang, So I've been tossing this idea over in my head... what do you think of using a derivitive of CGIHTTPServer.py to drive Mailman so that one could have an "out of hte box" solution... now not everyone WANTS this, but in the Zope world, we've found that for evaluation, the lower the entry-point requirement the better. Thoughts? Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli ``Television is bubble-gum for | petrilli(a)amber.org the mind.''-Frank Lloyd Wright

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postfix and mailman (referring to previous posts about vmailer)
by Simon J Mudd 14 Mar '99

14 Mar '99

I've just starting looking at mailman, and notice that it talks about vmailer. For various reasons vmailer had to have its name change, and is now called postfix. Consequently the information in the INSTALL file which talks about vmailer should be modified to talk about postfix and the commands mentioned should be changed too. Substitute vmailer with postfix and mkalias with postalias, the mail.cf configuration file for postfix is normally in /etc/postfix/ and further info about this MTA can be found in www.postfix.org I'm not subscribed to this list, so please CC: any replies to my email address above. Thanks and regards, Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN Tel: +34-91-408 4878 email: sjmudd(a)bitmailer.net [short messages - from radio hams only] ----> ea4els(a)ea4els.ampr.org

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Multiple admins in 'newlist?'
by Christopher Lindsey 13 Mar '99

13 Mar '99

I was having a bear of a time figuring out how to get multiple admins specified when creating a new list. I may be missing something obvious here, but I ended up patching newlist to allow multiple addresses delimited by spaces (I know, it's not the right thing to do in case of quoted-string addresses, but until that's fixed throughout all of Mailman this will do). Undoubtedly the notification could be lumped together into the same SMTP transaction, but I don't see it being a problem given how often this will be run (and one could argue that admin notification for a new list should be sent individually to track failures in cases where the admin forwards without rewriting the envelope, since their mail is much more important to be able to debug than users (but I'm just saying that to cover my butt)). (NOTE: I'm not a Mailman developer, and this is not an official patch. Harald et al, should I be sending these to the list, or just to you folks?) Chris P.P.S. This is against the current CVS tree as of the timestamp on the diff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- *** /home/staff/lindsey/cvs/mailman/bin/newlist Tue Mar 9 21:26:12 1999 --- bin/newlist Sat Mar 13 15:53:49 1999 *************** *** 29,34 **** --- 29,35 ---- Note that list-names are forced to lowercase. """ + from string import * import sys, os, string import time import paths # path hacking *************** *** 74,81 **** if len(argv) > 2: owner_mail = argv[2] else: ! owner_mail = raw_input( ! "Enter the email of the person running the list: ") if len(argv) > 3: list_pw = argv[3] else: --- 75,85 ---- if len(argv) > 2: owner_mail = argv[2] else: ! owner_mail = joinfields (split (raw_input( ! "Enter the email of the person running the list: "), ! ' '), '\n') ! ! if len(argv) > 3: list_pw = argv[3] else: *************** *** 132,138 **** 'requestaddr' : "%s-request@%s" % (list_name, newlist.host_name), 'hostname' : newlist.host_name, }) ! newlist.SendTextToUser(subject="Your new mailing list", recipient=owner_mail, sender='mailman-owner@%s' % newlist.host_name, text=text) --- 136,143 ---- 'requestaddr' : "%s-request@%s" % (list_name, newlist.host_name), 'hostname' : newlist.host_name, }) ! for admin in splitfields(owner_mail, '\n'): ! newlist.SendTextToUser(subject="Your new mailing list", recipient=owner_mail, sender='mailman-owner@%s' % newlist.host_name, text=text)

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