Mailman 3 March 1999 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Users] [ANNOUNCE] Mailman 1.0b9
by Per Starback 02 Mar '99

02 Mar '99

Barry wrote: > But I'd like b10 to be the last beta. It's time to get 1.0 out the > door (I know I've said this before -- this time I mean it :-). That sounds good! As a very new user of Mailman I can say that the beta version number was one thing that made me hesitant about using Mailman when I recently looked around wondering what MLM I should switch to. (I'm finally leaving SmartList after several years.) > Enjoy, and let me know if I missed anything. It's always nice to have the NEWS file or something like that in announcements of new versions so you can decide if you want to upgrade without having to fetch and unpack the whole thing: # Differences between 1.0b8 and 1.0b9 # # - New bin scripts: clone_member, list_members, add_members (a # consolidation of convertlist and populate_new_list which have been # removed). # # - Two new readmes have been added: README.LINUX and README.QMAIL # # - New configure option --with-cgi-ext which can be used if your Web # server requires extensions on CGI scripts. The extension must # include a dot (e.g. --with-cgi-ext=".cgi"). # # - Many bug fixes, including the setgid problem that was causing mail # to be lost on some versions of Linux. Hm, --with-cgi-ext was in 1.0b8 too. At least it's mentioned in the INSTALL there, but I didn't use it. Wish list: * Add Mail-Followup-To header. (I've done that for myself, but I would appreciate not having to do it again, as well as I'd like to see more use of this useful although nonstandard header.) * Possibility for individual list members to say if they want a Subject line [tag] or not. That would mean that there would have to be two versions of each message, but I think that would be worth it as the [tag]/no tag preference is more about the preferences (and mail situation) of individual list members that about the preferences of the list itself or its maintainer. I would never add a tag like that on my lists per default, but if users who want it could get it explicitly that would be nice. * A line at the Membership Management page where you set default attributes for new users in the same way that you can change attributes for the existing users. This more general feature would be instead of the Which delivery mode is the default for new users? and When receiving digests, which format is default? questions on the Digest-member options page. I think I would like to set "hide" by default, and anyway I think it's better for the future to have one general way of setting the default instead of having to add new list options sometimes when new membership options are made. I'm sorry if my wish list consists of things that have been beaten to death here. Being a list manager myself I should know better than to jump in on a list without lurking for some time first. :-) -- Per Starback <starback(a)ling.uu.se> <http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/me.html> "Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"

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Hi i new in this list and with mailman
by Roger Peña Escobio 02 Mar '99

02 Mar '99

Hi to all mailman user and developers :-) how i say in the subject i new with mailman, and i like it :-)) but there are some things unwanted, first of all , the suid in all subdirs and in the exe files (not the cgi-bin files), the other things is the permisions , i dont understant why 775 for all subdirs and not only for : logs, locks, lists, data, archives , the others just 750 except cgi-bin (755) . well, i did some changes in source, change the permisions and fix the alias_wrapper so i can edit a aliases files (/etc/mailman/aliases) and run sendmail -bi . All looks fine :-) i worked on version b8 i just unload the new version sorry for my english, is not so good Roger

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[ANNOUNCE] Mailman 1.0b9
by bwarsaw＠python.org 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

Folks, I've just uploaded Mailman 1.0b9 to www.list.org. I hope this solves the worst of the Linux problems and fixes most other outstanding bugs. I know there will be at least one more beta, hopefully by this weekend. I have three other minor buglets to fix and I think Ken has a couple of outstanding checkins to make. But I'd like b10 to be the last beta. It's time to get 1.0 out the door (I know I've said this before -- this time I mean it :-). I'd also like to welcome Harald Meland to the Mailman Cabal. John and I met Harald in Boston at the LISA conference last December and liked him a lot. He'll make a great addition to the team. Please check out the contributed logo designs to! We have some nice entries by Heidi, Alexander and Dragon. I'd like to choose one for the final release, so please email me directly with your choice (please DO NOT spam the list with your votes). Enjoy, and let me know if I missed anything. -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Fwd: Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade script for old databases?]
by J C Lawrence 01 Mar '99

01 Mar '99

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:25:39 -0500 Ken Manheimer<klm(a)digicool.com> wrote: > [Christian tismer is having problems migrating a bunch of maillists > to the new version, specifically because of the skew in customized > (and even non-customized!) list web page templates. It brings up > what i think is a substantial question about the template mechanism. > I want to put the issue out there, see what the prevailing wisdom > is. Details below...] I share his concerns, and am running into a few similar problems with clients I'm deploying MailMan at. Further, while the template structure is useful, the ability to define complex nodes for the templates is not wonderful. eg When the HTML for the list introductory description (that gets inserted into the listinfo page) is non-trivial, is is an absolute bitch to edit and correct in the provided form. Getting http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev/ to look right took almost an hour. It still isn't quite right, but I've given up trying to fix the last niggles figuring its "good enough". Note: The only editing I did on the template was on the archives section as I don't use pipermail. All the rest is via the template expansion. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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