Mailman 3 April 1999 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Listproc lists
by Gerhard Gonter 17 Apr '99

17 Apr '99

According to Greg Connor: > I did it all by hand on my system... here are the commands I used to > transfer users, as closely as I can remember... Thanks a lot, in the meantime I moved the subscribers of the first few lists (100 more to go :) using a modified add_members: ./add_members --lp6 lists/LIST1/.subscribers list1 Only one file, add_members, had to be modified. This maps ACK, NOACK -> normal subscriptions DIGEST -> digest subscriptions and keeps the original password. Addresses are converted to lower case. I will offer this version to the developers, maybe it will show up in the next version. Right now, POSTPONE'd entries are dropped and the CONCEAL flag is ignored, keeping this information requires modifications in other parts of Mailman. I'm not sure if I'll try that, maybe not... > Also, I had problems subbing more than 20 people at a time; all would get > subbed, but only 20 or so would get welcome messages (containing their new > random password). If you think you might have this problem too, use > something like this instead.. Hmm... Thanks for the hint. The sendmail logs tell me that everyone in a list with 167 members should have received their welcome messages by now, so this might be a bug in other versions. The bug archive didn't mention anything about that. (I'm using 1.0b8, the original add_members was pulled out of CVS yesterday.) +gg -- Gerhard.Gonter(a)wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g.gonter(a)ieee.org Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria

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jitterbug and #12
by Peter Gervai 16 Apr '99

16 Apr '99

Hello, Out of my curiousity I submitted a bug into the bug database. It got resolved really fast. I only have two problems. First: Maybe it's just me but I don't really see WHO did close the bug. Second: The bug (actually rather a cosmetic problem than a real bug) still exists, and the resolving was unsatisfactory (huh :)) for me, but there is no way to reply to the bug resolver, either because I do not know who he was or because I'm "logged in as a guest user". And about the #12: as the original text told the install overwrites the $BASE/templates directory without warning. Since I localized the templates to be able to create localized lists with newlist I wasn't REALLY happy to learn that all of them got overwritten. Of course lists/<listname>/templates don't get overwritten, but that's another matter I did not complain about... regards, grin

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hypermail
by J C Lawrence 12 Apr '99

12 Apr '99

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:43:37 +0200 (CEST) Dan Ohnesorg <dan(a)feld.cvut.cz> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 claw(a)kanga.nu wrote: >> I strongly suggest you look at MHonArc >> (http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.doc.html). It has >> far better MIME support, is significantly more configurable, etc >> etc etc yada yada. > Yes, I know, but it is nice on hypermail that it can be trigered > directly from mailman. When I will use another archiving tool, it > must be runed from crontab. MHonArc can archive a single message piped to sdtin. See the docs for the -add (IIRC) command line option. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)varesearch.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Hypermail
by claw＠kanga.nu 12 Apr '99

12 Apr '99

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:45:19 +0200 (CEST) Dan Ohnesorg <dan(a)feld.cvut.cz> wrote: > I have troubles with hypermail archiver. I strongly suggest you look at MHonArc (http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.doc.html). It has far better MIME support, is significantly more configurable, etc etc etc yada yada. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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Hypermail
by Dan Ohnesorg 12 Apr '99

12 Apr '99

I have troubles with hypermail archiver. On some ocasions it makes bad references between index page and articles, as you can see on http://poli.feld.cvut.cz/archives/public/kecy/1999-March/date.html 3-9 artiles from end are under one link. It is the most bad fall, but on other archives ot makes also too. It is version 1.0b10. BTW I will made templates for archives instead of static strings. Has it someone made alredy? cheers dan

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] exim - Failure to exec script- gid question
by Harald Meland 06 Apr '99

06 Apr '99

[nbecker(a)fred.net] > I'm using mailman-1.0b10 + exim-2.10. > > Mar 30 13:10:08 nbeckerpc Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take 99?) > > I can reconfigure mailman or exim to set the gid, but why is it needed > at all? Since wrapper is sgid, why does it care what gid was used to > invoke it? Just additional security check? Yes, it's "merely" a sanity check :) -- Harald

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Envelope sender and list-admin address
by Brian Ryner 05 Apr '99

05 Apr '99

Hi- I reported a bug on this but I thought I'd also post here, becuause I might try to correct this myself (and any advice would be appreciated). Basically, when a message is sent to the admin address (i.e. mailman-developers-admin(a)python.org), the envelope sender is left untouched when the message is resent. I don't think this is a good idea. If an address on the admin list is not on the local host, and the email is not sent from the local host, then you basically have a message from a non-local address to a non-local address, which is a no-no in many anti-spam-relaying setups. It would make much more sense to set the envelope sender to the list-admin address. -- -Brian Ryner bryner(a)uiuc.edu

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changes to mailpasswd to support multiple domains
by Jeff Hahn 04 Apr '99

04 Apr '99

Attached is a patch to cron/mailpasswds and templates/cronpass.txt to support multiple domains in the monthly password reminder. Patch is against latest CVS sources (1.0b11) WARNING: Apply with care! I'm just getting familiar with Python and Mailman so I could have made some really idiotic mistakes, but it works here... To Apply: cd /usr/src/mailman ("main" source directory) patch -p1 -b <password.dif Primary reason the patch file is so large is that I "de-tabbed" the source file (removed leading tabs and replaced with spaces). The original source was about half tabs and half spaces for indents. I'm not sure what the "official" position is on indenting for mailman. Let me know if this isn't necessary in the future. -Jeff diff -c -r MM.orig/cron/mailpasswds MM/cron/mailpasswds *** MM.orig/cron/mailpasswds Sat Apr 3 09:18:19 1999 --- MM/cron/mailpasswds Sun Apr 4 10:00:24 1999 *************** *** 51,79 **** The list can be any random one - it is only used for the message delivery mechanism.""" ! subj = '%s maillist memberships reminder\n' % list.host_name count = PAUSE_FREQUENCY for user, data in users.items(): ! table = [] ! for l, p, u in data: ! if len(l) > 9: ! table.append("%s\n %-10s\n%s\n" % (l, p, u)) ! else: ! table.append("%-10s %-10s\n%s\n" % (l, p, u)) ! header = ("%-10s %-10s\n%-10s %-10s" ! % ("List", "Password // URL", "----", "--------")) text = Utils.maketext( 'cronpass.txt', ! {'hostname': list.host_name, 'user' : user, ! 'one_list': l, }) # add this to the end so it doesn't get wrapped/filled text = text + header + '\n' + string.join(table, '\n') ! list.SendTextToUser(subject = subj, ! recipient = user, ! text = text, ! sender = mm_cfg.MAILMAN_OWNER, add_headers = ["X-No-Archive: yes", "Precedence: bulk"]) count = count - 1 --- 51,82 ---- The list can be any random one - it is only used for the message delivery mechanism.""" ! default_host = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_HOST_NAME ! mailman_owner = mm_cfg.MAILMAN_OWNER ! subj = '%s maillist memberships reminder\n' % default_host count = PAUSE_FREQUENCY for user, data in users.items(): ! table = [] ! for l, r, p, u in data: ! if len(l) > 39: ! table.append("%s\n %-10s\n%s\n" % (l, p, u)) ! else: ! table.append("%-40s %-10s\n%s\n" % (l, p, u)) ! header = ("%-40s %-10s\n%-40s %-10s" ! % ("List", "Password // URL", "----", "--------")) text = Utils.maketext( 'cronpass.txt', ! {'def_host': default_host, 'user' : user, ! 'ex_req' : r, ! 'mm_owner': mailman_owner, }) # add this to the end so it doesn't get wrapped/filled text = text + header + '\n' + string.join(table, '\n') ! list.SendTextToUser(subject = subj, ! recipient = user, ! text = text, ! sender = mailman_owner, add_headers = ["X-No-Archive: yes", "Precedence: bulk"]) count = count - 1 *************** *** 87,119 **** the user a single message with the info for all their lists on this site.""" list = None ! users = {} # user: (listname, password, url) # Constrain to specified users, if any. confined_to = args[1:] a_public_list = None for name in Utils.list_names(): ! list = MailList.MailList(name, lock = 0) if not a_public_list and list.advertised: a_public_list = list ! list_name = list.real_name ! umbrella_list = list.umbrella_list ! if not list.send_reminders: ! continue ! for user, password in list.passwords.items(): if confined_to: if user not in confined_to: continue else: # We're a bit verbose when operating "confined_to": print "%s in %s" % (user, list.real_name) ! url = list.GetAbsoluteOptionsURL(user) recipient = list.GetMemberAdminEmail(user) ! if users.has_key(recipient): ! users[recipient].append(list_name, password, url) ! else: ! users[recipient] = [(list_name, password, url)] if list: ! MailAllPasswords(a_public_list or list, users) def waitall(): """Return only when there are no forked subprocesses running.""" --- 90,125 ---- the user a single message with the info for all their lists on this site.""" list = None ! users = {} # user: (list address, request address, password, url) # Constrain to specified users, if any. confined_to = args[1:] a_public_list = None for name in Utils.list_names(): ! list = MailList.MailList(name, lock = 0) if not a_public_list and list.advertised: a_public_list = list ! list_address = list.GetListEmail() ! list_request = list.GetRequestEmail() ! umbrella_list = list.umbrella_list ! if not list.send_reminders: ! continue ! for user, password in list.passwords.items(): if confined_to: if user not in confined_to: continue else: # We're a bit verbose when operating "confined_to": print "%s in %s" % (user, list.real_name) ! url = list.GetAbsoluteOptionsURL(user) recipient = list.GetMemberAdminEmail(user) ! if users.has_key(recipient): ! users[recipient].append(list_address, list_request, ! password, url) ! else: ! users[recipient] = [(list_address, list_request, ! password, url)] if list: ! MailAllPasswords(a_public_list or list, users) def waitall(): """Return only when there are no forked subprocesses running.""" diff -c -r MM.orig/templates/cronpass.txt MM/templates/cronpass.txt *** MM.orig/templates/cronpass.txt Sat Apr 3 09:18:28 1999 --- MM/templates/cronpass.txt Sun Apr 4 08:07:38 1999 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your %(hostname)s mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. --- 1,4 ---- ! This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your %(def_host)s mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. *************** *** 8,18 **** In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of ! the list (for example, %(one_list)s-request@%(hostname)s) containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to you with instructions. If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to ! mailman-owner@%(hostname)s. Thanks! Passwords for %(user)s: --- 8,19 ---- In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of ! the list (for example, %(ex_req)s) containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to you with instructions. If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to ! %(mm_owner)s. Thanks! Passwords for %(user)s: +

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oops - hit a bug - 1.0b11
by Jeff Hahn 04 Apr '99

04 Apr '99

just noticed this in my logs from this afternoon - don't know if it's b11 specific... I am able to reproduce the problem by: 1. go to listinfo page 2. hit link for archive (archive restricted to members) 3. enter aaa(a)bbb.com for user ( any non member ) 4. enter 12345 (or anything else for password) then I get the "oops" page... I don't recall trying to access a restricted archive as a non-member before this, so it may not be b11 specific. I assume private.py should also be trapping the MMNotAMemberError error... -Jeff Apr 03 18:04:13 1999 admin: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin: [----- Mailman Version: 1.0b11 -----] admin: [----- Traceback ------] admin: Traceback (innermost last): admin: File "/home/mailman/MM/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin: main() admin: File "/home/mailman/MM/Mailman/Cgi/private.py", line 163, in main admin: if not list_name or not isAuthenticated(list_name): admin: File "/home/mailman/MM/Mailman/Cgi/private.py", line 120, in isAuthenticated admin: listobj.ConfirmUserPassword( username, password) admin: File "/home/mailman/MM/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 76, in ConfirmUserPassword admin: raise Errors.MMNotAMemberError admin: MMNotAMemberError

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailpasswds issues with multiple domains
by bruce＠perens.com 03 Apr '99

03 Apr '99

From: Jeff Hahn <jeffh(a)streek.com> > Is this an issue for other people? In other words, should I make up a set > of clean diff's and submit them for inclusion in the distribution? To > where? Yes. I'm running mine in multiple domains, it would be very handy. Thanks Bruce

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