Mailman 3 April 1999 - Mailman-Developers

Release 1.0b11
by Barry A. Warsaw 03 Apr '99

03 Apr '99

Okay folks, 1.0b11 is now available at www.list.org. This is basically a bug fix release addressing problems with case-preserving addresses and archiving of Usenet gated newsgroups. For you hardcore debugging types, there's a new script called bin/withlist which you can run like so: % cd ~mailman % python -i bin/withlist mylist Loading list: mylist (unlocked) >>> m.members {'bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us': 0} >>> withlist leaves you with a global variable `m' which is the MailList object you opened. Give withlist and optional second argument if you want the list to be locked. A note about upgrading. I had to bump the DATA_FILE_VERSION number so that the config.db got updated to deal with case-preserving addresses in some situation. I've been running this on python.org for a few days now and it all seems to work, but please keep an eye out for anything strange with your config.db file. Enjoy, -Barry

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problems with who ?
by Gergely Madarasz 03 Apr '99

03 Apr '99

I'm running mailman 1.0b10 This is all I get from a who request. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:48:22 +0200 From: linux-flame-request(a)mlf.linux.rulez.org To: gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu Subject: Mailman results for linux-flame ***** who Digest Members: anovak(a)nap-szam.hu atom(a)sophia.jpte.hu b-b0mb(a)freemail.c3.hu ba... Non-Digest Members: a7803268(a)unet.univie.ac.at a_linux(a)freemail.c3.hu acsosz(a)mail.da...

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Usenet gating and archiving
by Benjamin B. Thomas 03 Apr '99

03 Apr '99

> Barry A. Warsaw bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us writes: > Is anybody currently gating Usenet to a mailing list, /and/ doing > archiving with the default Pipermail? I am not yet using Mailman to do this, but I am doing the same thing with a hairy custom setup (majordomo + MHonArc + INN + gateway scripts). In about a month or so, I plan to switch our setup over to Mailman since it is *so* much nicer. > I would rather not add this hack to Mailman unless a lot of people > would benefit from it. We have a number of people who choose to interact via our local Usenet groups, and it is important that their contributions are archived. Without the ability to do so, I will need to stay with our current setup (icky as it is from an administrative standpoint, it does what I need) instead of moving to Mailman. Let me just say that Mailman is a wonderful piece of software. I have poked at it a little bit on a test installation, and it is beautifully conceived and implemented. Cheers, benjy 1975 Cahaba Valley Road (205) 988-4268 Indian Springs, AL 35124 benjy(a)alum.mit.edu

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Usenet gating and archiving
by Barry A. Warsaw 03 Apr '99

03 Apr '99

Is anybody currently gating Usenet to a mailing list, /and/ doing archiving with the default Pipermail? If so, you may not have noticed that the archives are pretty broken; nothing that originates on Usenet will show up in the archive. I believe I understand why this is happening, and although I don't have a fix yet, it shouldn't be too difficult. I should be able to get it into 1.0b11. The problem occurs because Pipermail uses Python's mailbox.UnixMailbox objects which expect "From " separators. Message that originate on Usenet don't have these envelopes. The patch should be to simply synthesize these on messages gated off the newsgroup. However, there's a more severe breakage. You've actually lost information that is hard to reproduce because the flat listname.mbox files don't have the separators in them either. Running bin/arch over the file will give you even more corrupt archives (the incremental archiver just throws the Usenet messages away; bin/arch will tack them onto the last email-originated message). What you could do is to trek through the listname.mbox file looking for Newsgroup: headers (which appear, but I don't think are guaranteed, to be the first header in the message). When you find one, you jam in a synthesized "From " envelope. I would rather not add this hack to Mailman unless a lot of people would benefit from it. For the test lists that I'm running, we're willing to just trash the archives and start over; the lists aren't live anyway. I'd like to know who would be really adversely affected by this problem. Thanks, -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-checkins] CVS: mailman/Mailman Deliverer.py
by Edgard Castro 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 02:23:14PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > Modified Files: > Deliverer.py > Log Message: > DeliverToList(): Strip off any duplicate Sender: headers, leaving just > the one pointing to the list-admin. The same problems occurs with Errors-To, haven't checked agains other headers. e. -- Edgard Castro <castro(a)usmatrix.net> | 305-273-5003 -o) Chief Network Engineer - U.S. Matrix Internet, Inc. /\\ Linux Counter User #29078 -- http://counter.li.org _\_V

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