Mailman 3 November 2001 - Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert'
by Pavel Chytil 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

Well I have reinstall mailman with email 0.96 in my python and outcome is the same: Nov 26 16:42:33 2001 (4495) Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' Nov 26 16:42:33 2001 (4495) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 104, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 152, in __onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 61, in _dispose mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 198, in ParseMailCommands lines.insert(0, SPACE.join(subjcmd)) AttributeError: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' Pavel Cituji z emailu od Dan Mick <dmick(a)utopia.West.Sun.COM>: > The version that comes with mailman is 0.96; maybe 1.0 doesn't > yet work with Mailman?... > > > Sure I did. > > > > asp pts/25% > > python > > ~ > > Python 2.2b2 (#1, Nov 19 2001, 20:23:17) > > [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)] on linux2 > > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > > >>> import email > > >>> email.__version__ > > '1.0' > > >>> > > > > Pavel > > > > > > Cituji z emailu od Dan Mick <dmick(a)utopia.West.Sun.COM>: > > > > > With 2.1 you have to install the 'email' package, which is included, as > the > > > instructions with 2.1 say to do. Did you? > > > > > > Pavel Chytil wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am new to mailman, so bear with me. I have downloaded mailman-2.0.7 > > > which > > > > works fine, than I have tried mailman 2.1 (also from cvs), and > getting > > > error > > > > message below in error log whenever I try to send email to > > > > mailman-request(a)asp.ogi.edu with word help in Subject line (I have > tried > > > also > > > > word help in body of message without any luck). > > > > > > > > Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' > object > > > has > > > > no attribute 'insert' > > > > Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 104, in > __oneloop > > > > self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) > > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 152, in > __onefile > > > > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 61, in > > > _dispose > > > > mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg, msgdata) > > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 198, in > > > > ParseMailCommands > > > > lines.insert(0, SPACE.join(subjcmd)) > > > > AttributeError: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pavel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mailman-Developers mailing list > > > > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailman-Developers mailing list > > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > ----- Konec přeposlané zprávy -----

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert'
by Dan Mick 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

The version that comes with mailman is 0.96; maybe 1.0 doesn't yet work with Mailman?... > Sure I did. > > asp pts/25% > python ~ > Python 2.2b2 (#1, Nov 19 2001, 20:23:17) > [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> import email > >>> email.__version__ > '1.0' > >>> > > Pavel > > > Cituji z emailu od Dan Mick <dmick(a)utopia.West.Sun.COM>: > > > With 2.1 you have to install the 'email' package, which is included, as the > > instructions with 2.1 say to do. Did you? > > > > Pavel Chytil wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am new to mailman, so bear with me. I have downloaded mailman-2.0.7 > > which > > > works fine, than I have tried mailman 2.1 (also from cvs), and getting > > error > > > message below in error log whenever I try to send email to > > > mailman-request(a)asp.ogi.edu with word help in Subject line (I have tried > > also > > > word help in body of message without any luck). > > > > > > Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object > > has > > > no attribute 'insert' > > > Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 104, in __oneloop > > > self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 152, in __onefile > > > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 61, in > > _dispose > > > mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg, msgdata) > > > File "/work/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 198, in > > > ParseMailCommands > > > lines.insert(0, SPACE.join(subjcmd)) > > > AttributeError: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pavel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailman-Developers mailing list > > > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers

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hi
by bxb1280 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

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hi
by bxb1280 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

vtkusers，hi！ Who can tell me how to download the CTN Library? (I want to read dicom file) thank you. bxb1280 bxb1280(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert'
by Pavel Chytil 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Hello, I am new to mailman, so bear with me. I have downloaded mailman-2.0.7 which works fine, than I have tried mailman 2.1 (also from cvs), and getting error message below in error log whenever I try to send email to mailman-request(a)asp.ogi.edu with word help in Subject line (I have tried also word help in body of message without any luck). Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 104, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 152, in __onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 61, in _dispose mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 198, in ParseMailCommands lines.insert(0, SPACE.join(subjcmd)) AttributeError: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Pavel

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questions about gate_news
by Jonas Meurer 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Hey ho, I'm new at this list, and I've a few questions about gate_news. It isn't working very well, so some posts to the group aren't fetched and some mails aren't posted. Can the problem be that the newsserver is connected only per ISDN and so the connection is very slow? So that sometimes the newsserver gives a timeout? Is this a known bug in gate_news, or is it a problem of my configuration? Im using mailman 2.0.7 self-compiled on a debian system. I've heard that gate_news is only a hack, so that it's not really good. Is this true? Is it better in later versions? And: Have all mailman-programs to be written in python? If not, I could try to rewrite gate_news in c? With a config-file where changes are written to? Out of it all, isn't c faster than python? Bye and thanks Jonas -- It's not that I'm afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens. -- Wood Allen

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] DNS and mailing lists -- an idea
by J C Lawrence 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:22:39 -0500 Jay R Ashworth <jra(a)baylink.com> wrote: > It occurred to me, riding home tonight from a concert and doing > the After Action in my head from the whole fiasco, that there > might be something productive in a script that could crawl the > pending mail log looking for signs that some large batch of mail > is pending for bad reasons. Which is a generically Good Thing. In larger installations I like to move spool entries for slow MX'es off the main production MTA and off to a box specifically configured for handling slow MXes (I do domain routing on the primary MX for the one's I've already identified). > Caching accidents happen to everyone occasionally... Frankly: Never seen one. Certainly not on a client end. Experiences like yours, sure, but that's a rather different deal. > and if one happens to your list with 4000 people on AOL, it could > get ugly. Quite. It would hurt most lists if the auto-unsubscribed AOL as bouncing due to, say, bad DNS (which could happen thru simple route flaps/'net connectivity problems on *your* end). > If such a script could restart the associated name daemon, > flushing it's cache, it would save a lot of delay and concern for > various groups of people, I think. Assuming you could create a > good heuristic for deciding when to dump the cache... which > shouldn't be too hard, since a false dump isn't too painful. Actually I use pdnsd which keeps a copy of its cache on disk, so restarts get the same cache as before... More simply, I don't see this buys you anything. If AOL is not reporting it won't be in your cache. Non-answers are not cached, only valid mappings are cached. > So, am I missing something obvious here? Will an MTA *without* a > caching server actually be affected less (because it's making > direct lookup calls to the zone servers in question)? It's an > area, admittedly, in which I'm a touch weak... which is why I'm > asking y'all. Typically the local nsd will do a certain amount of local cacheing (usually the last response or two) within the current application scope. Certain MTAs will (or can be configured to) cache the MX lookups in the spool files (a generally Bad Idea, but it can be a savings in heavily loaded cases).. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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I18n proposal
by Mikhail Zabaluev 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

Hello, I'd like to see some I18n issues in Mailman to be addressed prior to the 2.1 release. Basically, it's some bugs or misfeatures related to transformation of MIME-encoded messages. The most serious bug I see here is that messages encoded in base64 still get decorated with plaintext. This results in garbage on many clients. Here I attach a quick fix to disable decoration for base64-encoded messages. A more mature solution would be to decode such messages into 8bit, implementing Decoder for that matter, and slap decoration text onto the result. No, wait -- there still is an implicit assumption that message bodies and the decoration text share the same character set. Thus the decorations should be recoded from what character set they are assumed to be in (ASCII? ISO8859-1? UTF-8? Selectable per list?) into the character set of the message. Another problem is encoded messages in archives. Heck, look at this list's archive to see what I'm talking about. Those should also be decoded and have character set converted to some uniform one. I'd suggest UTF-8, but many browsers and text viewers still don't grok this charset, so it'd better be selectable as well. -- Stay tuned, MhZ JID: mookid(a)jabber.org ___________ A committee is a group that keeps the minutes and loses hours. -- Milton Berle

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bin/update error from latest CVS
by Luca Maranzano 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Hello all, I've tryed to install the latest CVS update of today, but when I do a 'make install' I get the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 47, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 58, in ? from Mailman.SecurityManager import SecurityManager File "/home/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 62, in ? from Cookie import SimpleCookie as Cookie ImportError: cannot import name SimpleCookie make: *** [update] Error 1 Any idea? All the Web UI reports the same error! :-( --luca

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Re: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Orwellian Archives?
by bob＠nleaudio.com 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

I use an editor called Joe that edit the .mbox file, then blast away the archives and rebuild them with $prefix/bin/arch <listname>. Takes a while for big archives, but it works. If you do delete messages (which is done by simply cutting the whole thing, headers and all), remember that when you rebuild the archives, messages subsequent to the one(s) you nuked will be renumbered. So if people reference messages in URLs, they may no longer be valid... Which might give credence to the method listed below of simply editing the body of the message. Bob >On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 07:23:52PM -0800, Roy Harvey wrote: >> Dear Barry -- >> Is there a way to remove individual messages from the archives? >> Thanks, >> Roy > >When I've had to do this, I just go edit that HTML file by hand and replace the >message text with "THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED". > >Had a couple of "for sale" posts that kept coming up in Google and I kept >getting email from people a year later (almost one a day!) about "do you >still have your X10 stuff for sale?" I finally went in and put this in >the message archive HTML: > ><h1> THIS ITEM IS NO LONGER FOR SALE. DONT EMAIL ME ABOUT IT </h1> > >Couple of days later, the emails stopped. 8-) > >Bill > >-- >Bill Bradford >mrbill(a)mrbill.net >Austin, TX > >_______________________________________________ >Mailman-Developers mailing list >Mailman-Developers(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers >

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