Mailman 3 November 2001 - Mailman-Developers

Bug creating lists in 2.1a3+
by Jose A. Accino Nov. 20, 2001

Nov. 20, 2001

Well, I just updated to latest CVS. I installed Python 2.2 and Mailman. Now, creating a new list with the web interface I get the error message below. Using the command line I get a similar one but without the reference to the 'process request()' call. Any help? JA. >Bug in Mailman version 2.1a3+ > >[...] > >Traceback: > >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main > main() > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 55, in main > process_request(doc, cgidata) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 205, in >process_request > sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) > File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 122, in create > db = dbhash.open(DBFILE, 'c') > File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/dbhash.py", line 16, in open > return bsddb.hashopen(file, flag, mode) >error: (22, 'Invalid argument') > > > > > >Python information: > > Variable > Value > sys.version > 2.2b2 (#1, Nov 20 2001, 17:18:14) [GCC 2.95.2 20000220 >(Debian GNU/Linux)] > sys.executable > /usr/local/bin/python > sys.prefix > /usr/local > sys.exec_prefix > /usr/local > sys.path > /usr/local > sys.platform > linux2

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fw: hi
by Dan Mick Nov. 20, 2001

Nov. 20, 2001

No one on this list has any idea what you're talking about. The name is "mailman-developers", and that means it's a place for Mailman developers to talk. I have no idea what vtk or DICOM3 are. > vtkusers£¬hi£¡ > > Has anyone sucessfully use vtk to render to read, and render DICOM3 file > format? Please advise on how could it be done? > > > > bxb1280 > bxb1280(a)yahoo.com > > > > > ÖÂ > Àñ£¡ > > bxb1280 > bxb1280(a)yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers

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Fw: hi
by bxb1280 Nov. 20, 2001

Nov. 20, 2001

vtkusers，hi！ Has anyone sucessfully use vtk to render to read, and render DICOM3 file format? Please advise on how could it be done? bxb1280 bxb1280(a)yahoo.com 致礼！ bxb1280 bxb1280(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[PATCH] Patch for Mailman to use new email i18n mimification
by Ben Gertzfield Nov. 19, 2001

Nov. 19, 2001

Here's the promised patch in my previous email, that enables Mailman to send out properly MIME-ified, localized emails, with the correct encoding and charset conversion for each language. This patch is against Mailman CVS. Ben Index: Mailman/Bouncer.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py,v retrieving revision 2.14 diff -u -r2.14 Bouncer.py --- Mailman/Bouncer.py 2001/10/15 20:39:56 2.14 +++ Mailman/Bouncer.py 2001/11/19 11:00:14 @@ -208,7 +208,8 @@ rname = self.real_name msg0 = Message.UserNotification( recipient, Utils.get_site_email(self.host_name, '-admin'), - _('%(rname)s member %(addr)s bouncing - %(negative)s%(did)s')) + _('%(rname)s member %(addr)s bouncing - %(negative)s%(did)s'), + lang=self.preferred_language) msg0['MIME-Version'] = '1.0' msg0['Content-Type'] = 'multipart/mixed' msg1 = MIMEText(text, Index: Mailman/Deliverer.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py,v retrieving revision 2.10 diff -u -r2.10 Deliverer.py --- Mailman/Deliverer.py 2001/10/21 06:24:56 2.10 +++ Mailman/Deliverer.py 2001/11/19 11:00:14 @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( self.GetMemberAdminEmail(name), self.GetRequestEmail(), _('Welcome to the "%(realname)s" mailing list%(digmode)s'), - text) + text, pluser) msg['X-No-Archive'] = 'yes' msg.send(self) @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( self.GetMemberAdminEmail(addr), self.GetAdminEmail(), _('You have been unsubscribed from the %(realname)s mailing list'), - Utils.wrap(self.goodbye_msg)) + Utils.wrap(self.goodbye_msg), self.GetMemberLanguage(addr)) msg.send(self) def MailUserPassword(self, user): @@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ cpuser = self.getMemberCPAddress(user) recipient = self.GetMemberAdminEmail(cpuser) subject = _('%(listfullname)s mailing list reminder') + mem_lang = self.getMemberLanguage(user) # get the text from the template text = Utils.maketext( 'userpass.txt', @@ -111,7 +112,8 @@ 'options_url': self.GetOptionsURL(user, absolute=1), 'requestaddr': requestaddr, 'owneraddr' : self.GetOwnerEmail(), - }, lang=self.getMemberLanguage(user), mlist=self) - msg = Message.UserNotification(recipient, adminaddr, subject, text) + }, lang=mem_lang, mlist=self) + msg = Message.UserNotification(recipient, adminaddr, subject, text, + mem_lang) msg['X-No-Archive'] = 'yes' msg.send(self) Index: Mailman/ListAdmin.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py,v retrieving revision 2.22 diff -u -r2.22 ListAdmin.py --- Mailman/ListAdmin.py 2001/11/06 22:49:36 2.22 +++ Mailman/ListAdmin.py 2001/11/19 11:00:14 @@ -30,6 +30,8 @@ import cPickle import email from email.MIMEMessage import MIMEMessage +from email.Encoders import encode_header +from email.Charset import Charset from cStringIO import StringIO from Mailman import mm_cfg @@ -281,9 +283,13 @@ except IOError, e: if e.errno <> errno.ENOENT: raise raise Errors.LostHeldMessage(path) + # We have to call email.Encoders.encode_header directly, we + # don't want to mess with the message + subject = encode_header(_('Forward of moderated message'), + Charset(self.preferred_language)) fmsg = Message.UserNotification(addr, self.GetAdminEmail(), - _('Forward of moderated message')) + subject) fmsg.add_header('Content-Type', 'message/rfc822') fmsg.add_payload(copy) fmsg.send(self) @@ -351,7 +357,8 @@ # This message should appear to come from the <list>-owner so as # to avoid any useless bounce processing. owneraddr = self.GetOwnerEmail() - msg = Message.UserNotification(owneraddr, owneraddr, subject, text) + msg = Message.UserNotification(owneraddr, owneraddr, subject, text, + lang) msg.send(self, **{'tomoderators': 1}) def __handlesubscription(self, record, value, comment): @@ -401,7 +408,8 @@ # This message should appear to come from the <list>-owner so as # to avoid any useless bounce processing. owneraddr = self.GetOwnerEmail() - msg = Message.UserNotification(owneraddr, owneraddr, subject, text) + msg = Message.UserNotification(owneraddr, owneraddr, subject, text, + self.preferred_language) msg.send(self, **{'tomoderators': 1}) def __handleunsubscription(self, record, value, comment): @@ -441,7 +449,7 @@ str(origmsg) ]) subject = _('Request to mailing list %(realname)s rejected') - msg = Message.UserNotification(recip, adminaddr, subject, text) + msg = Message.UserNotification(recip, adminaddr, subject, text, lang) msg.send(self) Index: Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py,v retrieving revision 2.23 diff -u -r2.23 MailCommandHandler.py --- Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py 2001/10/21 22:11:20 2.23 +++ Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py 2001/11/19 11:00:14 @@ -270,18 +270,16 @@ syslog('error', 'Unexpected Mailman error:\n%s', tbmsg) # and send the traceback to the user + lang = msgdata.get('lang', + self.getMemberLanguage(admin)) responsemsg = Message.UserNotification( admin, admin, _('Unexpected Mailman error'), _('''\ An unexpected Mailman error has occurred in MailCommandHandler.ParseMailCommands(). Here is the traceback: -''') + tbmsg) +''') + tbmsg, lang) responsemsg['X-No-Archive'] = 'yes' - lang = msgdata.get('lang', - self.getMemberLanguage(admin)) - responsemsg.add_header('Content-Type', 'text/plain', - charset=Utils.GetCharSet(lang)) responsemsg.send(self) break # send the response @@ -313,7 +311,7 @@ responsemsg = Message.UserNotification(msg.get_sender(), self.GetRequestEmail(), subject, - self.__respbuf) + self.__respbuf, lang) responsemsg.add_header('Content-Type', 'text/plain', charset=Utils.GetCharSet(lang)) responsemsg.send(self) Index: Mailman/MailList.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py,v retrieving revision 2.48 diff -u -r2.48 MailList.py --- Mailman/MailList.py 2001/10/27 01:59:41 2.48 +++ Mailman/MailList.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -666,7 +666,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( recipient, self.GetRequestEmail(), 'confirm %s' % cookie, - text) + text, lang) msg['Reply-To'] = self.GetRequestEmail() msg.send(self) if recipient <> email: @@ -748,7 +748,7 @@ }, lang=lang, mlist=self) msg = Message.UserNotification( self.owner, Utils.get_site_email(self.host_name, '-admin'), - subject, text) + subject, text, lang) msg.send(self) def DeleteMember(self, name, whence=None, admin_notif=0, userack=1): @@ -786,7 +786,7 @@ }, mlist=self) msg = Message.UserNotification( self.owner, Utils.get_site_email(self.host_name, '-admin'), - subject, text) + subject, text, lang) msg.send(self) if whence: whence = "; %s" % whence @@ -850,7 +850,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( newaddr, self.GetRequestEmail(), 'confirm %s' % cookie, - text) + text, self.getMemberLanguage(oldaddr)) msg['Reply-To'] = self.GetRequestEmail() msg.send(self) @@ -994,7 +994,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( addr, self.GetRequestEmail(), 'confirm %s' % cookie, - text) + text, lang) msg['Reply-To'] = self.GetRequestEmail() msg.send(self) Index: Mailman/Message.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Message.py,v retrieving revision 2.9 diff -u -r2.9 Message.py --- Mailman/Message.py 2001/10/15 21:38:01 2.9 +++ Mailman/Message.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -22,6 +22,9 @@ import email.Message import email.Utils +from email.Encoders import encode_body, encode_header +from email.Charset import Charset, QP, BASE64 + from types import ListType from Mailman import mm_cfg @@ -92,8 +95,22 @@ class UserNotification(Message): """Class for internally crafted messages.""" - def __init__(self, recip, sender, subject=None, text=None): + def __init__(self, recip, sender, subject=None, text=None, lang=None): Message.__init__(self) + + if lang is not None: + cset = Charset(Utils.GetCharSet(lang)) + text = encode_body(text, cset) + subject = encode_header(subject, cset) + self.add_header('MIME-Version', '1.0') + self.add_header('Content-Type', 'text/plain', + charset=cset.output_charset) + cte = '7bit' + if cset.body_encoding is QP: + cte = 'quoted-printable' + elif cset.body_encoding is BASE64: + cte = 'base64' + self.add_header('Content-Transfer-Encoding', cte) if text is not None: self.set_payload(text) if subject is None: @@ -106,6 +123,7 @@ else: self['To'] = recip self.recips = [recip] + self.lang = lang def send(self, mlist, **_kws): """Sends the message by enqueuing it to the `virgin' queue. @@ -117,6 +135,7 @@ # this is useful for logging to logs/smtp. if not self.has_key('message-id'): self['Message-ID'] = Utils.unique_message_id(mlist) + # Not imported at module scope to avoid import loop from Mailman.Queue.sbcache import get_switchboard virginq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.VIRGINQUEUE_DIR) Index: Mailman/Cgi/create.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py,v retrieving revision 2.13 diff -u -r2.13 create.py --- Mailman/Cgi/create.py 2001/11/06 23:29:19 2.13 +++ Mailman/Cgi/create.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -219,7 +219,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( owner, siteadmin, _('Your new mailing list: %(listname)s'), - text) + text, mlist.preferred_language) msg.send(mlist) # Success! Index: Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py,v retrieving revision 2.15 diff -u -r2.15 subscribe.py --- Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py 2001/10/12 05:14:25 2.15 +++ Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -230,7 +230,7 @@ an attempt is being made to covertly discover whether you are a member of this list, and you are worried about your privacy, then feel free to send a message to the list administrator at %(listowner)s. -""")) +"""), lang) msg.send(mlist) # These shouldn't happen unless someone's tampering with the form except Errors.MMCantDigestError: Index: Mailman/Handlers/Acknowledge.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Acknowledge.py,v retrieving revision 2.10 diff -u -r2.10 Acknowledge.py --- Mailman/Handlers/Acknowledge.py 2001/10/01 16:32:06 2.10 +++ Mailman/Handlers/Acknowledge.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -63,7 +63,5 @@ # queue. subject = _('%(realname)s post acknowledgement') usermsg = Message.UserNotification(sender, mlist.GetAdminEmail(), - subject, text) - usermsg.add_header('Content-Type', 'text/plain', - charset=Utils.GetCharSet(lang)) + subject, text, lang) usermsg.send(mlist) Index: Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py,v retrieving revision 2.18 diff -u -r2.18 Hold.py --- Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py 2001/10/15 22:22:08 2.18 +++ Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -217,9 +217,8 @@ lang = msgdata.get('lang', mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender)) subject = _('Your message to %(listname)s awaits moderator approval') text = Utils.maketext('postheld.txt', d, lang=lang, mlist=mlist) - nmsg = Message.UserNotification(sender, adminaddr, subject, text) - nmsg.add_header('Content-Type', 'text/plain', - charset=Utils.GetCharSet(lang)) + nmsg = Message.UserNotification(sender, adminaddr, subject, text, + lang) nmsg.send(mlist) # Now the message for the list owners. Be sure to include the list # moderators in this message. This one should appear to come from @@ -237,7 +236,8 @@ d['subject'] = usersubject # craft the admin notification message and deliver it subject = _('%(listname)s post from %(sender)s requires approval') - nmsg = Message.UserNotification(owneraddr, owneraddr, subject) + nmsg = Message.UserNotification(owneraddr, owneraddr, subject, + lang=lang) nmsg['Content-Type'] = 'multipart/mixed' nmsg['MIME-Version'] = '1.0' text = MIMEText( Index: Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py,v retrieving revision 2.0 diff -u -r2.0 Moderate.py --- Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py 2001/10/15 22:23:17 2.0 +++ Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -93,7 +93,8 @@ mlist.GetScriptURL('admin', absolute=1) nmsg = Message.UserNotification(mlist.GetOwnerEmail(), mlist.GetAdminEmail(), - _('Auto-discard notification')) + _('Auto-discard notification'), + mlist.preferred_language) nmsg['Content-Type'] = 'multipart/mixed' nmsg['MIME-Version'] = '1.0' text = MIMEText(Utils.wrap(_("""\ Index: Mailman/Handlers/Replybot.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Replybot.py,v retrieving revision 2.4 diff -u -r2.4 Replybot.py --- Mailman/Handlers/Replybot.py 2001/07/13 17:00:34 2.4 +++ Mailman/Handlers/Replybot.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -48,6 +48,7 @@ # means always autorespond, as does an "X-Ack: yes" header (useful for # debugging). sender = msg.get_sender() + lang = mlist.getMemberLanguage(sender) now = time.time() graceperiod = mlist.autoresponse_graceperiod if graceperiod > 0 and ack <> 'yes': @@ -90,7 +91,7 @@ # Wrap the response. text = Utils.wrap(text) outmsg = Message.UserNotification(sender, mlist.GetAdminEmail(), - subject, text) + subject, text, lang) outmsg['X-Mailer'] = _('The Mailman Replybot') # prevent recursions and mail loops! outmsg['X-Ack'] = 'No' Index: Mailman/MTA/Manual.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Manual.py,v retrieving revision 2.2 diff -u -r2.2 Manual.py --- Mailman/MTA/Manual.py 2001/09/04 15:09:56 2.2 +++ Mailman/MTA/Manual.py 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( siteowner, siteowner, _('Mailing list creation request for list %(listname)s'), - sfp.getvalue()) + sfp.getvalue(), mlist.preferred_language) outq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.OUTQUEUE_DIR) outq.enqueue(msg, recips=[siteowner]) @@ -108,6 +108,6 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( siteowner, siteowner, _('Mailing list removal request for list %(listname)s'), - sfp.getvalue()) + sfp.getvalue(), mlist.preferred_language) outq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.OUTQUEUE_DIR) outq.enqueue(msg, recips=[siteowner]) Index: bin/newlist =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/bin/newlist,v retrieving revision 2.10 diff -u -r2.10 newlist --- bin/newlist 2001/09/07 23:18:47 2.10 +++ bin/newlist 2001/11/19 11:00:15 @@ -179,7 +179,7 @@ msg = Message.UserNotification( owner_mail, siteadmin, _('Your new mailing list: %(listname)s'), - text) + text, mlist.preferred_language) msg.send(mlist) -- Ben Gertzfield ベン・ガーツフィールド Global Media Online INC. グロバルメディアオンライン株式会社 System Division システム本部 Sysadmin Team Programmer シスアドミニチームプログラマー

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hi
by bxb1280 Nov. 18, 2001

Nov. 18, 2001

vtkusers，hi！ Has anyone sucessfully use vtk to render to read, and render DICOM3 file format? Please advise on how could it be done? bxb1280 bxb1280(a)yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Dear all
by bxb Nov. 18, 2001

Nov. 18, 2001

Has anyone sucessfully use vtk to render to read, and render DICOM3 file format? Please advise on how could it be done?

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Pros Only: Archive problem with 2.0.7
by Joel Webb Nov. 14, 2001

Nov. 14, 2001

I am trying to get the archive html page to work, however the reason it doesn't work is because it is looking for the raw html file. Inside the Defaults it is set at: Archive_to_Mbox=2 which is archiving both Mbox and html archiving. Is this a bug, or do I not have something setup correctly? -- Respectfully, Joel Webb WebbGroup Network Systems LLC www.webbgroup.net 336.841.7241

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[PATCH] Header q-p/base64 RFC 2047 encoding for email module
by Ben Gertzfield Nov. 14, 2001

Nov. 14, 2001

The following patch to the email module implements the RFC 2047-specified Base64 and quoted-printable (called "B" and "Q" encoding by the RFC) for header-safe encoding of 8-bit strings, for From:, To:, Subject:, and other fields. It includes charset information within the encoded strings themselves, which, along with the special line-wrapping algorithm needed for B and Q encoding, make this a very useful general feature for internationalized Python email programs. Most MIME-aware mail readers in use today understand the RFC 2047 convention, and in the East Asian world, it's 100% necessary to send subject and address fields in Base64 encoding. Mailman needs this functionality in order to send out localized emails from the virgin queue; without it, it's very possible that 8-bit characters will be blindly placed into the Subject: and To: fields. This also allows localized List-Id fields, as a bonus! This patch adds the following functions to email.Utils: encode_address(real_name, address, charset="iso-8859-1", encoding=QP): MIME-encode a header field intended for an address (from, to, cc, etc.) encode_header(header, charset="iso-8859-1", encoding=QP): MIME-encode a general email header field (eg. Subject). encode_header_chunks(header_chunks): MIME-encode a header with many different charsets and/or encodings. It also adds the following support functions to email.Encoders. header_qencode(header, charset="iso-8859-1", maxlinelen=75): Encode a header line with quoted-printable (like) encoding. header_bencode(header, charset, maxlinelen=75): Encode a header line with Base64 encoding and a charset specification. I needed to re-implement the quoted-printable algorithm in header_qincode because the "Q" encoding specified by RFC 2045 is different in a few key areas from the one implemented in quopri.py, and the line-wrapping at 75 characters got too hairy with just quopri.py. Patch follows, against email 0.95. (Sorry, I tried CVS, but I didn't want to install Python 2.2 beta just yet.) I will work on integrating this into Mailman tomorrow. diff -ruN email.orig/Encoders.py email/Encoders.py --- email.orig/Encoders.py Tue Oct 2 04:29:38 2001 +++ email/Encoders.py Wed Nov 14 19:07:24 2001 @@ -6,8 +6,10 @@ import base64 import quopri +from binascii import b2a_base64 from cStringIO import StringIO +CRLFSPACE = "\015\012 " # Helpers @@ -24,6 +26,15 @@ return value[:-1] return value +def _max_append(list, str, maxlen): + if len(list) == 0: + list.append(str) + return + + if len(list[-1] + str) < maxlen: + list[-1] += str + else: + list.append(str) def _bencode(s): # We can't quite use base64.encodestring() since it tacks on a "courtesy @@ -78,3 +89,91 @@ def encode_noop(msg): """Do nothing.""" + + +def header_qencode(header, charset="iso-8859-1", maxlinelen=75): + """Encode a header line with quoted-printable (like) encoding. + + Defined in RFC 2045, this "Q" encoding is similar to + quoted-printable, but used specifically for email header fields to + allow charsets with mostly 7 bit characters (and some 8 bit) to + remain more or less readable in non-RFC 2045 aware mail clients. + + The resulting string will be in the form: + + "=?charset?q?I_f=E2rt_in_your_g=E8n=E8ral_dire=E7tion?=\r\n + =?charset?q?Silly_=C8nglish_Kn=EEghts?=" + + with each line wrapped safely at, at most, maxlinelen characters. + It is safe to use verbatim in any email header field, as the + wrapping is performed in a quoted-printable aware way and each + linefeed is a \r\n. + + charset defaults to "iso-8859-1", and maxlinelen defaults to 75 + characters. + """ + quoted = [] + + # =? plus ?q? plus ?= is 7 characters + maxlen = maxlinelen - len(charset) - 7 + + for c in header: + # Space may be represented as _ instead of =20 for readability + if c == ' ': + _max_append(quoted, "_", maxlen) + # These characters can be included verbatim + elif ((c >= 'a' and c <= 'z') or (c >= 'A' and c <= 'Z') or + (c >= '0' and c <= '9') or (c in ('!', '*', '+', '-', '/'))): + _max_append(quoted, c, maxlen) + # Otherwise, replace with hex value like =E2 + else: + _max_append(quoted, "=%02X" % (ord(c)), maxlen) + + encoded = "" + + for q in quoted: + # Any chunk past the fir7st must start with "\r\n " + if len(encoded) > 0: + encoded += CRLFSPACE + encoded += "=?%s?q?%s?=" % (charset, q) + + return encoded + +def header_bencode(header, charset, maxlinelen=75): + """Encode a header line with Base64 encoding and a charset specification. + + Defined in RFC 2045, this Base64 encoding is identical to normal + Base64 encoding, except that each line must be intelligently + wrapped (respecting the Base64 encoding), and subsequent lines must + start with a space. + + The resulting string will be in the form: + + "=?charset?b?WW/5ciBtYXp66XLrIHf8eiBhIGhhbXBzdGHuciBBIFlv+XIgbWF6euly?=\r\n + =?charset?b?6yB3/HogYSBoYW1wc3Rh7nIgQkMgWW/5ciBtYXp66XLrIHf8eiBhIGhh?=" + + with each line wrapped at, at most, maxlinelen characters. It is + safe to use verbatim in any email header field, as the wrapping is + performed in a quoted-printable aware way and each linefeed is a + \r\n. + + charset defaults to "iso-8859-1", and maxlinelen defaults to 75 + characters. + """ + base64ed = [] + + maxlen = ((maxlinelen - len(charset) - 7) / 4) * 3 + num_lines = (len(header) / maxlen) + 1 + + for i in xrange(0, num_lines): + base64ed.append(b2a_base64(header[i*maxlen:(i+1)*maxlen])) + + encoded = "" + + for b in base64ed: + if len(encoded) > 0: + encoded += CRLFSPACE + # We ignore the last character of each line, which is a \n. + encoded += "=?%s?b?%s?=" % (charset, b[:-1]) + + return encoded diff -ruN email.orig/Utils.py email/Utils.py --- email.orig/Utils.py Sat Nov 10 02:07:44 2001 +++ email/Utils.py Wed Nov 14 19:16:00 2001 @@ -17,11 +17,16 @@ import base64 # Intrapackage imports -from Encoders import _bencode, _qencode +from Encoders import _bencode, _qencode, header_qencode, header_bencode COMMASPACE = ', ' UEMPTYSTRING = u'' +CRLFSPACE = "\015\012 " + +# Flags for types of header encodings +QP = 1 # Quoted-Printable +BASE64 = 2 # Base64 # Helpers @@ -56,6 +61,16 @@ return value[:-1] return value +def _chunk_append(chunks, header, goodlinelen=75): + if len(chunks) == 0: + chunks.append(header) + return + + for chunk in header.split(CRLFSPACE): + if len(chunks[-1] + chunk) < goodlinelen: + chunks[-1] += " " + chunk + else: + chunks.append(chunk) def getaddresses(fieldvalues): @@ -156,3 +171,90 @@ 'Jul', 'Aug', 'Sep', 'Oct', 'Nov', 'Dec'][now[1] - 1], now[0], now[3], now[4], now[5], zone) + +def encode_address(real_name, address, charset="iso-8859-1", encoding=QP): + """MIME-encode a header field intended for an address (from, to, cc, etc.) + + Given an 8-bit string containing a real name, an email address, + and optionally the real name's character set, and the encoding + you wish to use with it, return a 7-bit MIME-encoded string + suitable for use in a From, To, Cc, or other email header + field. + + The encoding can be email.Utils.QP (quoted-printable, for + ASCII-like character sets like iso-8859-1), email.Utils.BASE64 + (Base64, for non-ASCII like character sets like KOI8-R and + iso-2022-jp), or None (no encoding). + + The charset defaults to "iso-8859-1", and the encoding defaults + to email.Utils.QP. + + The resulting string will be in the format: + + "=?charset?q?Kevin_Phillips_B=F6ng?= <philips(a)slightly.silly.party.go.uk>" + + and can be included verbatim in an email header field. Even + very long addresses are handled properly with this method: + + "=?charset?q?T=E4rquin_Fintimlinbinhinbimlim_Bus_St=F6p_Poontang_Poont?=\r\n + =?charset?q?ang_Ol=E9_Biscuit-Barrel?=\r\n + <tarquin(a)very.silly.party.go.uk>" + """ + + return encode_header_chunks([ [real_name, charset, encoding], + ["<%s>" % address, None, None] ]) + +def encode_header(header, charset="iso-8859-1", encoding=QP): + """MIME-encode a general email header field (eg. Subject). + + Given an 8-bit header string, and optionally its charset and the + encoding you wish to use, return a 7-bit MIME-encoded string + suitable for use in a general email header (but most useful for + the Subject: line). + + The encoding can be email.Utils.QP (quoted-printable, for + ASCII-like character sets like iso-8859-1), email.Utils.BASE64 + (Base64, for non-ASCII like character sets like KOI8-R and + iso-2022-jp), or None (no encoding). + + The charset defaults to "iso-8859-1", and the encoding defaults + to email.Utils.QP. + """ + return encode_header_chunks([[header, charset, encoding]]) + +def encode_header_chunks(header_chunks): + """MIME-encode a header with many different charsets and/or encodings. + + Given a list of triplets [ [string, charset, encoding] ], return a + MIME-encoded string suitable for use in a header field. Each triplet + may have different charsets and/or encodings, and the resulting header + will accurately reflect each setting. + + Each encoding can be email.Utils.QP (quoted-printable, for + ASCII-like character sets like iso-8859-1), email.Utils.BASE64 + (Base64, for non-ASCII like character sets like KOI8-R and + iso-2022-jp), or None (no encoding). + + Each triplet will be represented on a separate line; the resulting + string will be in the format: + + "=?charset1?q?Mar=EDa_Gonz=E1lez_Alonso?=\r\n + =?charset2?b?SvxyZ2VuIEL2aW5n?=" + """ + chunks = [] + + for header, charset, encoding in header_chunks: + encoded = "" + encoding_char = "" + + if encoding is None: + _chunk_append(chunks, header) + else: + if encoding is QP: + _chunk_append(chunks, header_qencode(header, charset)) + + elif encoding is BASE64: + _chunk_append(chunks, header_bencode(header, charset)) + + return CRLFSPACE.join(chunks) + -- Brought to you by the letters A and H and the number 10. "Wuzzle means to mix." Debian GNU/Linux maintainer of Gimp and Nethack -- http://www.debian.org/

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hanging subscribe requests
by John Masterson Nov. 13, 2001

Nov. 13, 2001

Hello, I've posted my problem twice to mail-users to no avail. I apologize in advance if this is not the appropriate forum for this report. Running Redhat 6.2, Python 2.1.1, Mailman 2.0.6, Apache 1.3.20 The Mailman web interface mostly works fine. However, when someone attempts to subscribe to a list, the page hangs and spins and results in "Document contains no data" (Netscape) or "Cannot find server/DNS error" (IE). This generally starts 1-3 python subscribe processes which persist for 30 seconds or so and then fire off the confirmation of (1-3) subscription notice(s). This behavior can be experienced here: http://www.montananorml.org/mailman/listinfo/mtnorml-list Thanks for any tips. We have recompiled, reinstalled, etc, several times. -- John Masterson Modwest Powerful, Affordable Web Hosting http://www.modwest.com 406.541.4678

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mangling of subject header by outlook or mailman
by totschnig.michael＠uqam.ca Nov. 13, 2001

Nov. 13, 2001

Hello, I have hit a strange problem with subject headers on a fairly recent (cvs) mailman system. The problem is that when people using outlook respond on the list to a message containing 8-bit characters, the message mailman sends out is unpleasantly mangled. I do not have access to a windows system with the same outlookk version that causes the problem installed, so I could not track the problem down to see if it is generated by outlook or mailman. Maybe anybody has seen the same problem. here are the exact syptoms. When I have a thread starting with a header (in raw form) Subject: [Cmo-discussion] =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E9tiquette?= the answer written by outlook gets the following two header lines after being distributed by mailman: Subject: [Cmo-discussion] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BCmo-discussion=5D_N=E9tiquette?=; Subject: [Cmo-discussion] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BCmo-discussion=5D_N=E9tiquette?= and the problem gets worse and worse with any subseqent reply in the thread. can anyone tell me how to find the offending part in this, and if there is a remedy in mailman. Regards, Michael

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Re: Problem with lockfiles and time in the future
by brandon＠roguetrader.com Nov. 12, 2001

Nov. 12, 2001

Dan Mick said: > The lock date is set into the future on purpose, so that eventually > stale locks can be automatically reclaimed. > > Some process died holding a lock. Remove it and drive on if you're > sure that process is dead. I have tried that actually, and have nuked the lockfiles and re-run the processes, still no go; new locks appear and the processes just hang again, eventually printing something to the logfile saying that it cannot get a lock. I am totally at loss now, if you are saying the future timestamp is intentional. -Brandon Gillespie

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Problem with lockfiles and time in the future
by Dan Mick Nov. 12, 2001

Nov. 12, 2001

The lock date is set into the future on purpose, so that eventually stale locks can be automatically reclaimed. Some process died holding a lock. Remove it and drive on if you're sure that process is dead. > I am having a very odd situation with lock files. My entire mailman > system suddenly stopped working a few days ago, and I have tracked it > down to the lockfiles. In the logs, nothing is able to get a lock. > What I have noticed is the timestamp on the lock file is exactly 10 > hours in the future from the current time, when it tried to get the > lock. This is not a problem with cron or the OS time setting, as I > setup another job in cron exactly like qrunner but through bourne > shell, and it reports time properly, so something from python on down > is causing it to do this oddly. Does anybody have any idea what this > could be? Where I can start digging? I am running mailman 2.0.6 on > Solaris 8, x86. > > -Brandon Gillespie > > (BTW, please CC me on any response as I am not on the mailing list) > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers

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Problem with lockfiles and time in the future
by brandon＠roguetrader.com Nov. 12, 2001

Nov. 12, 2001

I am having a very odd situation with lock files. My entire mailman system suddenly stopped working a few days ago, and I have tracked it down to the lockfiles. In the logs, nothing is able to get a lock. What I have noticed is the timestamp on the lock file is exactly 10 hours in the future from the current time, when it tried to get the lock. This is not a problem with cron or the OS time setting, as I setup another job in cron exactly like qrunner but through bourne shell, and it reports time properly, so something from python on down is causing it to do this oddly. Does anybody have any idea what this could be? Where I can start digging? I am running mailman 2.0.6 on Solaris 8, x86. -Brandon Gillespie (BTW, please CC me on any response as I am not on the mailing list)

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Other Bounce issues with 2.0.6
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 12, 2001

Nov. 12, 2001

Hi Gang, Ok, here's an interesting situation: On 11/03, hotmail was down for a bit, bouncing messages. Mailman bounce logs confirm this. They came back up, and all was well. On 11/08, 5 days later, they had the same problem - bounced some messages. Later they fixed the problem. However, Mailman saw the bounces coming in 5 days later, and did its thing removing the people. It didn't realize that there were no bounces in between. How long is the bounce database held? In other words, what happens if a single bounce happens, then 7 days go by, and another single bounce occurs. Will it see this and disable the user? Or does it only look at the 5th day? What happens on a busy list? What about a list that gets a post every couple weeks? Bob

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A few bugs and some thoughts
by Daniel Buchmann Nov. 12, 2001

Nov. 12, 2001

[this is all about latest CVS, MM2.1a3+] 1. A bug: If digest-mode is disabled for a list, and a member tries to turn it on, a Mailman bug appears: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 456, in main mlist.setMemberOption(user, flag, newval) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 242, in setMemberOption raise Errors.CantDigestError CantDigestError And the same occurs the other way around (if only digest mode is enabled, and a member tries to turn it off): Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 456, in main mlist.setMemberOption(user, flag, newval) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 254, in setMemberOption raise Errors.MustDigestError MustDigestError IMHO, I think a user should not be able to choose between normal and digest mode if only one of them are available. (The choice shouldn't appear at all on their personal memberpage.) 2. Another bug?: Held postings for a list are not deleted when the list is deleted (e.g. with the rmlist command.) A .pck file for each held posting is still around in the data/ directory. Maybe this is true for pending subscriptions as well? 3. A feature request: It would be really great if the text boxes on the [Sender filters] page in addition could accept domain names (or maybe regexps?) instead of email address only. Example: I have several lists where posters would only come from the .no domain. To reduce spam, non-member postings are held for approval. If I could set Mailman to auto-approve postings from .no, and auto-discard all other postings, the list moderators of these lists would be _very_ happy... ;) 4. I'm also experiencing the same problem as totschnig.michael(a)uqam.ca in hist post "mangling of subject header by outlook or mailman". I have Mailman 2.1a3+ on two different linux boxes. I have a test list with the same name and the same config on both. The problem only occurs on one of them! Both Mailman installations are the same version (latest CVS) with the same config. If anyone has any idea of where I might look for differences in the two installations, let me know... maybe I could find out what causes it.. :)

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Mod to list_members to show nomail, digest types
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 12, 2001

Nov. 12, 2001

Hey gang, A while back someone requested a way to get the listing of nomail list members. I recently needed not only that, but also the ability to sort out digest mime users, and digest plain text users. Below is a replacement list_members program (that goes in $prefix/bin) that adds four new commands with which to accomplish this: -x = exclude nomail members -n = list only nomail members -m = list digest mime members -l = list plain text digest members This script was modified from the 2.0.6 Mailman code - NOT tested with 2.1!!! Enjoy! Bob ========cut here============= #! /usr/bin/env python # # Copyright (C) 1998,1999,2000 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. """List all the members of a mailing list. Usage: %(program)s [-o file] [-r] [-d] [-p] [-h] listname Where: -o file or --output file Write output to specified file instead of standard out. -r or --regular Print just the regular (non-digest) members. -d or --digest Print just the digest members. -x or --exclude Exclude all nomail members from list -n or --nomail Print only the nomail members -l or --plain Print only plain text digest members -m or --mime Print only mime digest members -p or --preserve Output member addresses case preserved the way they were added to the list. Otherwise, addresses are printed in all lowercase. -h or --help Print this help message and exit. listname is the name of the mailing list to use. Note that if neither -r or -d is supplied, both regular members are printed first, followed by digest members, but no indication is given as to address status. """ import sys import string import getopt import paths from Mailman import MailList from Mailman import Errors from Mailman import Defaults from Mailman import mm_cfg program = sys.argv[0] rmem = {} dmem = {} def usage(status, msg=''): print __doc__ % globals() if msg: print msg sys.exit(status) def main(): try: opts, args = getopt.getopt( sys.argv[1:], 'dprnmxlo:h', ['digest', 'regular', 'preserve', 'nomail', 'mime', 'xclude', 'plain', 'output=', 'help']) except getopt.error, msg: usage(1, msg) if len(args) <> 1: usage(1) listname = string.lower(args[0]) outfile = None regular = None digest = None preserve = None nomail = None mimef = None xclude = None plaint = None for opt, arg in opts: if opt in ('-h', '--help'): usage(0) elif opt in ('-o', '--output'): outfile = arg elif opt in ('-r', '--regular'): regular = 1 elif opt in ('-d', '--digest'): digest = 1 elif opt in ('-p', '--preserve'): preserve = 1 elif opt in ('-n', '--nomail'): nomail = 1 elif opt in ('-m', '--mime'): mimef = 1 elif opt in ('-x', '--exclude-nomail'): xclude = 1 elif opt in ('-l', '--plain'): plaint = 1 if plaint: digest = 1 if mimef: digest = 1 if regular is None and digest is None: regular = digest = 1 if xclude is None and nomail is None: xclude = nomail = 1 if mimef is None and plaint is None: mimef = plaint = 1 if outfile: try: fp = open(outfile, 'w') except IOError: print 'Could not open file for writing:', outfile sys.exit(1) else: fp = sys.stdout try: mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) except Errors.MMListError, e: print 'No such list "%s"\n%s' % (listname, e) sys.exit(1) # filters for recipient calculation def delivery_enabled_p(x, s=mlist, v=mm_cfg.DisableDelivery): return not s.GetUserOption(x, v) def delivery_disabled_p(x, s=mlist, v=mm_cfg.DisableDelivery): return s.GetUserOption(x, v) def likes_mime_p(x, s=mlist, v=mm_cfg.DisableMime): return not s.GetUserOption(x, v) def hates_mime_p(x, s=mlist, v=mm_cfg.DisableMime): return s.GetUserOption(x, v) if preserve: for addr in mlist.GetDeliveryMembers(): rmem[addr] = addr for addr in mlist.GetDigestDeliveryMembers(): dmem[addr] = addr else: for addr in mlist.GetMembers(): rmem[addr] = addr for addr in mlist.GetDigestMembers(): dmem[addr] = addr rmembers = filter(delivery_enabled_p, rmem.keys()) rnomembers = filter(delivery_disabled_p, rmem.keys()) dmem2 = filter(delivery_enabled_p, dmem.keys()) dmembers = filter(hates_mime_p, dmem2) dmime = filter(likes_mime_p, dmem2) dmem2 = filter(delivery_disabled_p, dmem.keys()) dnomembers = filter(hates_mime_p, dmem2) dnomime = filter(likes_mime_p, dmem2) stdout = sys.stdout try: sys.stdout = fp if regular: if xclude: for addr in rmembers: print addr if nomail: for addr in rnomembers: print addr if digest: if xclude: if plaint: for addr in dmembers: print addr if mimef: for addr in dmime: print addr if nomail: if plaint: for addr in dnomembers: print addr if mimef: for addr in dnomime: print addr finally: sys.stdout = stdout if __name__ == '__main__': main()

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Bounce handler problem - another one in 2.0.6
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 11, 2001

Nov. 11, 2001

Just discovered this one: A user was subscribed to the list using some capital letters in their email address. Emails to ther user were bouncing, and the bounce handler did properly detect the user's address. However, the bounce log shows "User not a member", and shows the email in lower case. Other than the case, the address -is- exactly the same. So, I assume that the mixed case is the reason the bounce handler is not taking the guy out. Ideas? Fixes? Bob

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cron/checkdbs error
by Daniel Buchmann Nov. 10, 2001

Nov. 10, 2001

If there are subscription/unsubscription requests waiting, but no moderated posts waiting for approval, cron/checkdbs gives me this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "cron/checkdbs", line 104, in ? main() File "cron/checkdbs", line 67, in main text = text + '\n' + pending_requests(mlist) File "cron/checkdbs", line 82, in pending_requests when, addr, passwd, digest, lang = mlist.GetRecord(id) ValueError: unpack tuple of wrong size This only seems to happen on newly created lists (e.g. lists that never have had any moderated posts waiting for approval). How to produce the error: 1. Create a new list, set steps required for subscription to "Require approval" or "Confirm and approve". 2. Subscribe to the list. 3. run cron/checkdbs when the subscription request is waiting for moderator approval.

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clobber_date bug
by Eric Seppanen Nov. 9, 2001

Nov. 9, 2001

Hello nice Mailman folks, thanks for the great software. I've been using it for over a year to run a handful of small mailing lists and I've always been impressed with the quality. I just noticed a small bug. On an active list, I turned on the clobber_date setting (to apply the "resent" time to messages stored in the archives), and I noticed that it messed up the order of a bunch of messages in the archive. The reason is that clobber_date doesn't put the timezone information in the Date: field. So it looks as though the messages are dated GMT instead of GMT-6, and the messages from this morning appear after those from the afternoon. Example message without clobber_date: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:48:20 -0600 Example message with clobber_date: Date: Thu Nov 8 13:33:00 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:31:30 -0600 Thanks, Eric

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FAQ-o-Matic
by barry＠zope.com Nov. 9, 2001

Nov. 9, 2001

A while back it was suggested that we implement an on-line interactive FAQ, where the community can add and expand on questions. I've now adapted the Python FAQ wizard to add a Mailman FAQ wizard. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py There's only 3 questions and answers there so far, but you can help make it a better FAQ! I'm opening up access so that anybody can add or change FAQ entries. This is an honor system, and the password is "Mailman". Let me know if you think we need more, or different categories. Enjoy! -Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] clobber_date bug
by Dan Mick Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:23:58PM -0800, Dan Mick wrote: > > > > > So it looks like my options are to use asctime(gmtime(time)) or write a > > > routine that parses time.timezone into "-0600". > > > > Luckily 'altzone' is defined in time, so > > > > "+%02d%02d" % (time.altzone / 3600, time.altzone % 3600) > > Well, that's not totally right either. It doesn't look as though 'time' > has a function to tell us if we're in the DST timezone or the non-DST > timezone, so there's no way to tell if we're supposed to use 'timezone' > or 'altzone'. Well, there's the ninth return value of localtime(). But I'm too lazy to write the code to use it (as you can surely tell by the fact that I'm too lazy to tell the difference between altzone and timezone.. ;) > So it looks to me like using 'gmtime' is the only way to > get the right info under all circumstances. > > To be totally RFC 822/2822 compliant, you could convert to GMT (using > gmtime) and then blindly append "+0000". But since (in 2.0.6) this only > happens to messages on the way to being archived, it doesn't seem > terribly likely that message will ever be resent again. So as long as > the archiver is happy I'm not too concerned. > > Ugh. I just noticed that RFC 2822 requires day-month-year-time order, > while ctime and asctime produce month-day-time year order. So looks to > me like this is most correct: > > time.strftime("%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S +0000", time.gmtime(time.time()))

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] clobber_date bug
by Dan Mick Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

> > While clobber_date doesn't process the existing date, it > > seems to replace it by the local date (namely > > the output of ctime(time()). That seems correct to me. > > Are you certain your local TZ is set properly? > > Using python 1.5.2, ctime() is giving local time without timezone info. Good point. It's the correct time, but it's not fully-qualified. I get it. > If I use asctime(gmtime(time)) I seem to get the correct result. > > [eds@ike eds]$ python > Python 1.5.2 (#1, Dec 21 2000, 15:29:08) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 > 19990314/Linux (egcs- on linux-i386 > Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam > >>> time.ctime(time.time()) > 'Thu Nov 8 16:01:44 2001' > >>> time.tzname > ('CST', 'CDT') > >>> time.timezone /3600 > 6 > >>> time.asctime(time.gmtime(time.time())) > 'Thu Nov 8 22:06:05 2001' Well, sorta. You really want that TZ information appended. > So it looks like my options are to use asctime(gmtime(time)) or write a > routine that parses time.timezone into "-0600". Luckily 'altzone' is defined in time, so "+%02d%02d" % (time.altzone / 3600, time.altzone % 3600) seems to do it. But it sure looks like a bug to me.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] clobber_date bug
by Dan Mick Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

> Hello nice Mailman folks, thanks for the great software. I've been > using it for over a year to run a handful of small mailing lists and > I've always been impressed with the quality. > > I just noticed a small bug. On an active list, I turned on the > clobber_date setting (to apply the "resent" time to messages stored in > the archives), and I noticed that it messed up the order of a bunch of > messages in the archive. > > The reason is that clobber_date doesn't put the timezone information in > the Date: field. So it looks as though the messages are dated GMT > instead of GMT-6, and the messages from this morning appear after those > from the afternoon. > > Example message without clobber_date: > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:48:20 -0600 > > Example message with clobber_date: > Date: Thu Nov 8 13:33:00 2001 > X-Original-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:31:30 -0600 While clobber_date doesn't process the existing date, it seems to replace it by the local date (namely the output of ctime(time()). That seems correct to me. Are you certain your local TZ is set properly?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] threaded view on archive does not work
by J C Lawrence Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

CC'ed to -developers to note that pipermail's threading seems either broken/fragile, and to note that the mbox archives for the -users list are borked (early apparency is that Pipermail is excessively restrictive on In-Reply-To header field formats). On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:18:55 +0100 Lucas Hofman <lucas.hofman(a)pgs.com> wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2001 09:53, J C Lawrence wrote: >> On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:42:33 +0100 >> exmh. Quoting the headers from this very message: >> >> In-Reply-To: Message from Lucas Hofman <lucas.hofman(a)pgs.com> of >> "Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:42:33 +0100." >> <0111021004.AA1004693972(a)lysntsmail.oslo.pgs.com> References: >> <0111021004.AA1004693972(a)lysntsmail.oslo.pgs.com> > There are gone when the message arrives at my workstation (at > least, kmail 'show all headers' does not reveal them). Neither in > the copy received from your not the one sent by the list. Which is then a problem with your mail setup, and is not specific to either the mail I send, or the mailman lists at Python.Org. Quoting the full headers from another message I sent to this forum: --<cut>>-- X-envelope-from: mailman-users-admin(a)python.org Tue Nov 06 12:46:03 2001 Return-path: <mailman-users-admin(a)python.org> Envelope-to: claw@localhost Delivery-date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:46:03 -0800 Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by dingo.home.kanga.nu with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 161D6h-0001ns-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:46:03 -0800 Delivered-to: claw(a)kanga.nu Received: from kanga.nu [157.22.12.214] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.3) for claw@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org [63.102.49.29]) by bush.kanga.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCEE12E27 for <claw(a)kanga.nu>; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 161D30-0000fp-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:42:14 -0500 Received: from [63.203.253.2] (helo=localhost) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 161D2h-0000bB-00 for mailman-users(a)python.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:41:55 -0500 Received: from 2wire.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4338E129A; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:41:25 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: Message from "Leonard Jacobs" <ljacobs(a)shambhala.com> of "Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:27:57 EST." <3BE7E55D.13726.2154F0A@localhost> References: <3BE7E55D.13726.2154F0A@localhost> X-message-flag: Are you sure that Microsoft Outlook is good enough for you to use? X-accepted-file-formats: text/plain preferred, Postscript and PDF accepted - *NO* Micosoft Office files please. X-face: ?<YUs-cNP1\Oc-H>^_yw@fA`CEX&}--=*&XqXbF-oePvxaT4(kyt\nwM9]{]N!>b^K}-Mb9 YH%saz^>nq5usBlD"s{(.h'_w|U^3ldUq7wVZz$`u>MB(-4$f\a6Eu8.e=Pf\ X-image-url: http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/kanga.face.tiff X-url: http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Message-id: <12753.1005079285(a)2wire.com> Sender: mailman-users-admin(a)python.org Errors-to: mailman-users-admin(a)python.org X-beenthere: mailman-users(a)python.org X-mailman-version: 2.0.6 (101270) Precedence: bulk List-help: <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=help> List-post: <mailto:mailman-users@python.org> List-subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> List-id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> List-unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:mailman-users-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] resolving qfiles stuck in the queue From: J C Lawrence <claw(a)2wire.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:41:25 -0800 To: Ljacobs(a)shambhala.com Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org --<cut>>-- Unfortunately the mbox files for the archives at python.org are borked, but checking other posts of mine there universally show correct in-Reply-To: and References: headers. eg: --<cut>>-- >From claw(a)kanga.nu Thu Nov 1 18:00:37 2001 From: claw(a)kanga.nu (J C Lawrence) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Mailman-Users] threaded view on archive does not work In-Reply-To: Message from Lucas Hofman <lucas.hofman(a)pgs.com> of "Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:30:22 +0100." <0111011004.AA1004610438(a)lysntsmail.oslo.pgs.com> References: <0111011004.AA1004610438(a)lysntsmail.oslo.pgs.com> Message-ID: <29859.1004637637(a)kanga.nu> --<cut>>-- > Do you have any any why your messages do not hread in the mailman > user maillist archive? No. > In other words, could it be that the mail > system at python.org does not see those headers too? No. This would appear to be another Pipermail bug. As you can see here: http://www.kanga.nu/archives/MUD-Dev-L/2001Q4/thread.php#00434 my messages thread properly under MHonArc (a tool I know handles thread headers properly). -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Problem with mailman and postfix
by Hanno Liem Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

Hi, I have consulted all the online docs, but haven't been able to find anything relating to my problem. I hope someone here can help me. For some reason, mailman is unable to send outgoing email to any mailing lists. In /var/log/maillog postfix logs: Nov 8 13:47:01 shane postfix/master[24382]: warning: process /usr/local/libexec /postfix/local pid 61748 exit status 1 Nov 8 13:47:01 shane postfix/master[24382]: warning: /usr/local/libexec/postfix /local: bad command startup -- throttling Normal mail can be sent out by shane. Only mail from postfix hangs somewhere... Any hints would be much appreciated. kind regards, Hanno Liem Your Choice

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Software Development �10 per hour!
by Phillip Smith Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

Greetings. Can anyone explain to me why this spam E-mail made it to the list? I see a lot of spam being sent to this list, but in this particular case, one of the mailing lists I run also received the same identical message.. which I find odd. Did they intentionally target mailman powered lists? I find it more odd that for both mailman-developers and my list, subscription/confirmation is required, but I find no trace of any addresses with the header domains or From: address, which would indicate to me there is some way around the subscription process, or that they came up with a scheme to go through the sub/confirm and then unsubscribe. Seems like a lot of trouble just to send spam though... Am I missing something here? -phillip

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SimpleMatch.py problem
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 8, 2001

Nov. 8, 2001

Hi Barry & gang, I finally figured out why my few additions to SimpleMatch.py bounce messages weren't working. It turns out that if one of the lines in one of the previous cases matches, but the other ones don't, the search is aborted immediately, instead of testing the other patterns. I'm sure this is a simple fix, but I'm not fluent enough in Python (yet) to take a stab at this. The offending code is: state = 0 while 1: line = msg.fp.readline() if not line: break if state == 0: for scre, ecre, acre in patterns: if scre.search(line): state = 1 break elif state == 1: mo = acre.search(line) if mo: addrs[mo.group('addr')] = 1 elif ecre.search(line): break return addrs.keys() or None Bob

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Nov. 8, 2001

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] List CGI
by J C Lawrence Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:39:05 -0500 Allan Baker <allan(a)caldera.com.mx> wrote: > As a job assignment I'm required to make a script (its highly > likely it will be with a CGI script) so that mailman mailing lists > can be created using a web page. However my idea is not to > reinvent the wheel. Is there anything like it or do I have to > start coding? Already done for 2.1 -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading from 2.0b5 to 2.1a2
by barry＠zope.com Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

[Note: I'm moving this discussion to malman-developers. -baw] >>>>> "JAA" == Jose A Accino <jaccino(a)ieev.uma.es> writes: JAA> Is there any clean way to make a smooth upgrade from 2.0b5 to JAA> lates 2.1a2? (I'm making that just to check the upgrade JAA> process, using a spare machine and a copy of the actual JAA> lists). JAA> Making a 2.1a2 fresh installation (without lists) runs fine. JAA> However, I've been unable to upgrade the old lists. Here are JAA> the main points: There's two ways to upgrade, neither of which has gotten a lot of testing. Based on you're message I tried the first way, and I'm about to check in a bunch of patches to make that go smoother. I'll try the second way soon. 1) Install a fresh virgin MM2.1 in /usr/local/mailman and then move lists from /home/mailman (MM2.0.x) to /usr/local/mailman. This way lets you migrate lists one at a time, gaining confidence in the new system in measured increments. I will probably upgrade {python,zope}.org this way. 2) Install MM2.1 overtop an existing MM2.0.x installation and have everything just magically work. I'll probably upgrade wooz.org's production lists this way. Both ought to work, and ought to be easy. After the checkins, here's a recipe that makes #1 easy: - Do a fresh install of MM2.1 in /usr/local/mailman according to the instructions. - Copy or move `mylist' by first moving /home/mailman/lists/mylist to /usr/local/mailman/lists/mylist and /home/mailman/archives/private/mylist.mbox to /usr/local/mailman/archives/private BTW, I used rsync for this, just cause it's a cool tool and I can actually remember how to invoke it with the right options. :) That's it. Everything else should just work, except for possibly two minor complications. - If your web server is going to support both installations, it's possible you'll have two different base urls, one for your MM2.0.x installation and one for your MM2.1 installation. If so, you'll need to manually change each moved list's web_page_url attribute. Fortunately, I'm about to add a script called `fix_url' which will reset a list's web_page_url to mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL. So if you configure mm_cfg.py correctly, then run fix_url, you should be golden. I.e. % bin/withlist -l -r fix_url mylist - Same dealie with your MTA, i.e. your wrapper aliases may point to two different directories. Here, because I use Postfix and glued them together as described in README.POSTFIX, all I needed to do was run bin/genaliases and the new list aliases got installed. I'm sure that if you use Exim and glued them together as per README.EXIM, you probably don't need to do anything. (I'm still waiting on contributions for better gluing instructions for Sendmail, qmail, and any others.) -Barry

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Fix for Postfix bounces
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

I just did some more digging (after seeing no replies to my messages here), and found this: My Postfix (022801) returns "multipart/report", not "multipart/mixed" that the bounce handlers were looking for. So in fixing this, as well as bringing in some of the code from 2.1, here is the patch I applied to my Mailman/Bouncers/Postfix.py file for 2.0.6: [root@list Bouncers]# diff Postfix.py.orig Postfix.py 30c30 < if msg.gettype() <> 'multipart/mixed': --- > if msg.gettype() <> 'multipart/report' and msg.gettype() <> 'multipart/mixed': 62c62 < pcre = re.compile(r'\t\t\tthe postfix program$', re.IGNORECASE) --- > pcre = re.compile(r'\t\t\tthe\s(bns)?\s*(postfix|keftamail)', re.IGNORECASE) Does this look ok? Bob

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My "fix" for the bounce error
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

Here's what I came up with, after reading both the messages on sourceforge and looking at the code: def process(msg): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> 'multipart/report': # then return None if msg.getparam('report-type') == None: # then return None if string.lower(msg.getparam('report-type')) <> 'delivery-status': # then return None boundary = msg.getparam('boundary') msg.fp.seek(0) (This is in /Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py) This keeps the message from clogging up Mailman, but it still doesn't handle the bounce properly. I've been getting HUNDREDS of bounces in my mailbox from this one list... Barry, are there any updates available for 2.0.6 to fix this? Bob

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Bounce error hangs Mailman
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

I just discovered a show-stopper for Mailman 2.0.6: A user on one of my lists suddenly started bouncing messages. The bounce causes qrunner to die when it gets to that message, and stops processing files after that. Here's the python errors: Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): Traceback (most recent call last): Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 282, in ? Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): kids = main(lock) Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 252, in main Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata) Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 121, in dispose_message Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, mimemsg): Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py", line 59, in ScanMessages Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): addrs = func(msg) Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/home/csc/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py", line 46, in process Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> 'multipart/report' or \ Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.2/string.py", line 54, in lower Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): return s.lower() Nov 04 02:56:01 2001 qrunner(2605): AttributeError : 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower' And here's an example of a bounce coming from the offending user: Received: by main.nlenet.net (mbox bob) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Nov 4 02:46:01 2001) X-From_: postmaster(a)btconnect.com Sun Nov 4 02:45:50 2001 >From bob Sun Nov 4 02:45:50 2001 Return-Path: <postmaster(a)btconnect.com> Delivered-To: bob(a)nlenet.net Received: from c2bapps1.btconnect.com (c2bapps1.btconnect.com [193.113.209.21]) by main.nlenet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ED8D113D126 for <bob(a)nleaudio.com>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 02:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from btconnect.com by c2bapps1.btconnect.com id <g.02673-0(a)c2bapps1.btconnect.com>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0000 Message-Type: Delivery Report X400-Received: by /ADMD= /C=WW/; Relayed; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:31 +0000 X400-Received: by mta c2bapps1-hme1 in /ADMD= /C=WW/; Relayed; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:31 +0000 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/ADMD= /C=WW/;c2bapps1.b:026710:20011104074531] From: postmaster(a)btconnect.com To: bob(a)nleaudio.com Subject: Delivery Report (failure) for pr(a)allen-heath.com Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0000 Message-ID: <"c2bapps1.b:026710:20011104074531"@btconnect.com> Content-Identifier: test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; boundary="---Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 34456246710d0000 -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672 This report relates to your message: Subject: test, Message-ID: <3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com>, To: pr(a)allen-heath.com of Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:31 +0000 Your message was not delivered to: pr(a)allen-heath.com for the following reason: Diagnostic was Unable to transfer, -1 Information MTA '62.6.150.133' gives error message 5.7.1 Unable to relay for pr(a)allen-heath.com The Original Message follows: -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672 Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: x400; mta c2bapps1-hme1 in /ADMD= /C=WW/ Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0000 DSN-Gateway: dns; c2bapps1.btconnect.com X400-Conversion-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:32 +0000 Original-Envelope-Id: [/ADMD= /C=WW/;<3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com>] X400-Content-Identifier: test X400-Encoded-Info: ia5-text X400-Content-Correlator: Subject: test, Message-ID: <3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com>, To: pr(a)allen-heath.com Original-Recipient: rfc822; pr(a)allen-heath.com Final-Recipient: x400; /RFC-822=pr(a)allen-heath.com/ADMD= /C=WW/ X400-Originally-Specified-Recipient-Number: 1 Action: failed Diagnostic-Code: Reason 1 (Unable-To-Transfer); Diagnostic -1 (Unknown) Status: 5.0.0 X400-Supplementary-Info: "MTA '62.6.150.133' gives error message 5.7.1 Unable to relay for pr(a)allen-heath.com" X400-Last-Trace: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0000 -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from ns.nlenet.net by c2bapps1 with SMTP (XT-PP); Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0000 Received: from nleaudio.com (66-133-142-213.roc.frontiernet.net [66.133.142.213]) by ns.nlenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E354A770C for <pr(a)allen-heath.com>; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 02:44:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BE4F1EC.8306C281(a)nleaudio.com> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 02:44:44 -0500 From: "Bob Puff@NLE" <bob(a)nleaudio.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pr(a)allen-heath.com Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test, please disregard. -----Multi-Part-Report-Level-1-1-2672-- This was a bomb that kept me up till the wee hours tracing down. I looked through the bug reports, found something similar, but there was no fix! Yikes! This needs fixing asap! Bob

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Bounce detection
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

Hi Gang, Just got another 40+ bounces that the 2.0.6 bounce handlers didn't pick up... There was nothing in the logs during the time I got some of the bounces, yet it does pick up on others. I suspect it's a simple string matching issue. Looked in Mailman/Bouncers, but I don't immediately see the method or order of what modules are run. What is the first module called? Barry? Bob

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Password reminder via Web for non subscribed address hits a bug
by Luca Maranzano Nov. 6, 2001

Nov. 6, 2001

Hello all, I've upgraded to latest CVS this morning, and I've found the following problem: accessing via web to http://my.server.com/mailman/options/LISTNAME and inserting an email address which is *not* subscribed to LISTNAME and then pressing on the "Remind" button generates the following error: Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 145, in main mlist.MailUserPassword(user) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 85, in MailUserPassword assert self.isMember(user) AssertionError: May be a check to verify if the email is subscribed is missing? Regards, luca PS: may be we are almost ready for 2.1a4 or the first beta? Barry? :)

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mailman & roxen 1.3 webserver
by Matthias Klose Nov. 5, 2001

Nov. 5, 2001

With CVS 20011105 and roxen 1.3 I get trying to open the "Membership-Management" tab (all other admin-tabs work fine): Bug in Mailman version 2.1a3+ We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 184, in main show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 471, in show_results form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 796, in membership_options qs = cgi.parse_qs(os.environ['QUERY_STRING']) File "/usr/lib/python2.1/UserDict.py", line 14, in __getitem__ def __getitem__(self, key): return self.data[key] KeyError: QUERY_STRING Python 2.1.1 SERVER_SOFTWARE Roxen Challenger/1.3.122-20 As a "plus", german umlauts aren't correctly displayed. But this may be a roxen problem as well ...

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(Current CVS version) cron/mailpasswds and edit HTML errors
by Daniel Buchmann Nov. 5, 2001

Nov. 5, 2001

error in cron/mailpasswds: [mailman@testbox ~]$ cron/mailpasswds Traceback (most recent call last): File "cron/mailpasswds", line 173, in ? main() File "cron/mailpasswds", line 82, in main sitelist = MailList.MailList(mm_cfg.MAILMAN_SITE_LIST, lock=0) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 100, in __init__ self.Load() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 496, in Load raise Errors.MMUnknownListError Mailman.Errors.MMUnknownListError Error when editing HTML through the web interface (after creating a new list): Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main main() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py", line 118, in main ChangeHTML(mlist, cgidata, template_name, doc) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/edithtml.py", line 155, in ChangeHTML template_name), 'w') IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/mailman/lists/testliste/no/listinfo.html' ...because the language directory does not exist. After creating this directory (/home/mailman/lists/testliste/no) with the usual 02775 permissions, the editing works fine. -Daniel, Norwegian translator.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?
by J C Lawrence Nov. 2, 2001

Nov. 2, 2001

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:36:37 -0500 James Watson <james(a)FuturisTech.net> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:23:28AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: >> Hostnames are explicitly case insensitive. Mailman flattens the >> strings prior to comparison. Example: >> >> https://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/ >> https://WwW.Kanga.Nu/lists/listinfo/ > Your browser must do the flattening. With Mozilla, the above two > urls both work for me. However, with Netscape 4.77, I get the "no > advertised lists" message when using the second url. Urk. This is bad, a bug, and needs to be fixed for 2.1. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Web Authenticfication for mailing list members outside Mailman?
by Andy Heath Nov. 2, 2001

Nov. 2, 2001

Well, in the absence of universal support for LDAP or similar this is a good solution and one I currently do my self with Zope and lists. One way to do this is to use something external to mailman to extract the id's and and encrypt the passwords and put it on a crontab to generate the .htaccess files. A better approach would be a generic way to interface with mailman and I *believe* 2.1 mailman supports a much better (essentially pluggable if you're a programmer) security architecture - but, its not out there in a stable well- documented way that a non-pythoneer can pick up and modify yet so meanwhile doing it completely externally will save effort (not worth hacking 2.0.x when 2.1 is on the way). Happy to mail you the script I use if it helps - its not orginal - in fact its in a patch (badly named) on sourceforge. The solution works well for me (though with Zope, not apache). Hope this helps andy > I am currently running both a web site and two majordomo lists. > I would like to migrate to mailman, and at the same time make parts > of the Web site (Apache 1.3, Solaris) accessible only for members of one or more mailing lists > (you may see them as user groups). > Is there a way to reuse Mailman cookies outside the Mailman pages, or to place these pages > in a way that they are handled though Mailman security? > > An additional minus on my site is that I don't have experience with Python (yet), > I am just a Perl geek :-(. > > Any ideas are highly appreciated ... > > Best regards, > > Markus Jansen > > -- > Markus Jansen Markus.Jansen(a)ericsson.com > Senior Designer, Technical Coordinator > Ericsson Process & Application Consulting > TTM Solutions / CM Tools VH/PAC/L/TD Phone +46 8 568 61560 > Västberga Allé 36A Mobile +46 70 526 2548 > 12582 Stockholm, Sweden Fax +46 8 568 61888 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers -- andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Heath, Sheffield Hallam University participating in Ctr for Educ Tech Interoperability Stds +44 (0)114 2885738 a.k.heath(a)shu.ac.uk

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Web Authenticfication for mailing list members outside Mailman?
by Markus Jansen (PAC) Nov. 2, 2001

Nov. 2, 2001

Hi, I am currently running both a web site and two majordomo lists. I would like to migrate to mailman, and at the same time make parts of the Web site (Apache 1.3, Solaris) accessible only for members of one or more mailing lists (you may see them as user groups). Is there a way to reuse Mailman cookies outside the Mailman pages, or to place these pages in a way that they are handled though Mailman security? An additional minus on my site is that I don't have experience with Python (yet), I am just a Perl geek :-(. Any ideas are highly appreciated ... Best regards, Markus Jansen -- Markus Jansen Markus.Jansen(a)ericsson.com Senior Designer, Technical Coordinator Ericsson Process & Application Consulting TTM Solutions / CM Tools VH/PAC/L/TD Phone +46 8 568 61560 Västberga Allé 36A Mobile +46 70 526 2548 12582 Stockholm, Sweden Fax +46 8 568 61888

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"Digester lucked out" in bounce
by Bob Puff＠NLE Nov. 2, 2001

Nov. 2, 2001

What exactly does this mean in the logs/bounce file? I see this a lot. I would have assumed that it meant an address that was bouncing now seems to work. The only problem is that Mailman isn't tied into the MTA's logs to know if the message really was delivered properly.. for all it knows, a bounce could be on the way! Bob

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Official way to "move" lists?
by Bill Bradford Nov. 1, 2001

Nov. 1, 2001

I'm moving my stuff to a newer/faster machine in a few days; is there a better "approved and recommended" way to transfer entire lists, configs, and archives over to the new machine other than just tarballing up the entire Mailman directory and FTPing it over? E.g., can I reinstall Python and MailMan on the new machine, and only move certain directories? Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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mailman-developers님 안녕하십니까?
by 이현우 Nov. 1, 2001

Nov. 1, 2001

:::Happy mail::: Happymail 및 기타 문의 02-588-0510 2001년 10월 ▣ 건망증 ☞ 본문보기 A blonde is walking down the street withher blouse open and her right breast hanging out. A policeman approaches her and says. "Ma'am, are you aware that I couldarrest you for indecent exposure?" She says, "Why, officer?" "Because your breast is hangingout." She looks down and shouts. "OH MY GOODNESS! I left the baby onthe bus again!" ☞ 해석보기 한 금발미녀가 블라우스가 활짝 열려 있고 오른쪽 젖가슴을 밖으로 다 드러내 놓은 상태로 길을 걸어가고 있었다. 경관이 그녀의 근처에 와서 말했다. "부인, 내가 당신을 과다 노출죄로 체포할 수도 있다는 사실을 알고 계신가요?" 그녀가 대답하길: "왜 그렇죠, 경관님?" "당신 가슴이 밖에 나와 있잖아요?" 그녀는 아래를 보더니 이렇게 외쳤다: "아니! 이럴수가!! 또 아기를 버스에 두고 내려 버렸어요!" ◇ breast 옷가슴 ◇ approach ~에 가까이 가다 ◇ indecent 버릇없는, 꼴 사나운, 외설(음란)한 ◇ exposure 노출 " Where Does My Heart Beat Now - Sung by Celine Dion - " ▣ Don't know how love could leave Without a trace Where do silent hearts go. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ▣ 사랑의 흔적도 남기지 않은 채 그렇게 떠날 수 있는지 알 수가 없어요. 이 허탈한 마음은 어디로 가야 하나요 서로의 사랑이 식어 버린 채 더이상 할 말이 없는 사이가 된 것이죠. 'silent hearts'란 바로 서늘하게 식어 버린, 허탈감만 남아 버린 상태를 표현한 것입니다. 'without a trace'는 「사랑의 흔적도 남기지 않고」라는 뜻으로 'silent hearts'의 의미를 더욱 강조해 주고 있어요. ◇ without a trace 아무런 흔적, 자취도 없이 ▷That dog has gone away without a trace. (그 개는 아무런 흔적도 없이 사라져 버렸다.) ▣ May I try this on? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ▣ 한번 입어봐도 될까요? ☞ 본문보기 A: This is the latest in swimwear. B: What colors do you have? A: Besides this one in black, we have red, blue and green. B: Can I try this one on? ☞ 해석보기 A : 이것이 우리가 가지고 있는 최신 수영복이에요. B : 색상은 어떤 게 있나요? A : 검은색인 이것 말고 빨간 색, 파란색, 초록색이 있어요. B : 제가 이것 한 번 입어봐도 될까요? '옷을 한 번 입어보다'라는 표현은 'try on'입니다. 'try to'는 '노력하다'이고 'try ~ ing'는 '시험삼아 ~하다'라는 뜻이지요. ◇ swimwear 수영복 ◇ besides 게다가, 그밖에 ◇ try on ~을 한 번 입어보다. ▣ 復讐 ☞ 본문보기 田中 : 山田くん，何(なん)の穴(あな)，掘(ほ)っているの? 山田 : あ! 田中くん，うちの金魚(きんぎょ)のお墓(はか)なんだ．田中 : でも，金魚(きんぎょ)のお墓(はか)にしちゃ，その穴(あな), 大(おお)きすぎるよ．山田 : 仕方(しかた)ないよ．うちの金魚(きんぎょ)が，田中くんのネコの中(なか)に入 (はい)ったままだから． ☞ 해석보기 다나까 : 야마다군, 무슨 구멍을 파고 있니? 야마다 : 아! 다나까군, 우리 집 금붕어 무덤이야. 다나까 : 그치만, 금붕어 무덤치곤, 그 구멍, 너무크다. 야마다 : 어쩔 수 없어. 우리집 금붕어가 너희집 고양이 뱃속에 들어있거든. ◇ 復讐(ふくしゅう) 복수 ◇ 穴(あな) 구멍 ◇ 掘(ほ)る 파다 ◇ うちの~ 우리(집)~ ◇ 金魚(きんぎょ) 금붕어 ◇ お墓(はか) 무덤 ◇ 大(おお)きすぎる(←大きい) 너무크다. ◇ 仕方(しかた)ない 어쩔 수 없다. ◇ ねこ 고양이 ◇ 入(はい)る 들어가다. ▣ 金さんは兄弟(きょうだい)がありますか 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ▣ 김씨는 형제가 있습니까? ☞ 본문보기 木村 : 金さんは兄弟(きょうだい)がありますか. 金 : ええ，兄(あに)と姉(あね)が一人(ひとり)ずつあります. 木村 : お兄(にい)さんは何(なに)をしていますか. 金 : 兄(あに)は父(ちち)の會社(かいしゃ)ではたらいています. ☞ 해석보기 기무라 : 김씨는 형제가 있습니까? 김 : 예, 형과 누나가 한 명씩 있습니다. 기무라 : 형님은 무엇을 하고 있습니까? 김 : 형은 아버지 회사에서 일하고 있습니다. ◇ 兄弟(きょうだい) 형제◇ はたらく 일하다 〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓〓 mailman-developers님 안녕하세요? 저희는 전화를 이용해서 강사와 1 : 1 로 외국어 학습을 할 수 있는 ◐ Online Korea ◑ 라 고 합니다. 미리 허락받지 않고 편지 드려 죄송합니다. 부디 너그러우신 용서를...... 저희 회사에서는 외국어(영어,일어)에 관심 있는 많은 분들께 매일(월-금), 영어유머와 생활에 필요한 회화 한 문장씩을 무료로 보내 드리고 있어요. 위와 같은 내용의 서비스를 받아보기 원하시면 ≪ olk(a)olk.co.kr ≫로 "yes"라는 내용의 답장을 주시기 바랍니다. 그리고, 저희 전화 외국어 강의가 궁금하신 분들을 위해, 1회에 한해서 ◈ 무료 시범강의 ◈도 실시해 드리고 있으니 한번 들어보고 싶으시면 지금 신청해 주세요. 무료 시범강의 신청 방법은 ▶ 이곳 ◀ 을 클릭하신 후 강의 신청란에 있는 시범강의 신청 폼을 작성하셔서 보내 주시면 됩니다. 물론, 전화 02-588-0510 으로도 신청하실 수 있구요. 아무쪼록 이 학습법이 mailman-developers님의 회화 실력 향상에 작은 보탬이 되었으면 합니다. mailman-developers님께는 http://www.kr.gnu.org/directory/mailman.html에 있는 주소를 보고 메일 드렸는데요, 불필요한 정보였다면 정말 죄송합니다. 메일 수신 거부를 원하시면 olk(a)olk.co.kr 로 [NO] 라는 답장을 주시면 다시는 이런 메일을 드리지 않겠습니다. 감사합니다.

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