Mailman 3 February 2004 - Mailman-Developers

bug report submitted: admin password is checked when it should not
by Heiko.Scheit＠mpi-hd.mpg.de 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

For your information: I just submitted the bug report below on the SF mailman page. Greetings, Heiko. admin password is checked when it should ----------------------------------------- To see the problem you have to be the administrator of a list. Go to the members options login page .../mailman/options/<listname> and enter something like a valid email address, e.g.: xxx(a)xxx.xxx and as password enter the ADMIN password! You will get something like: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! The problem seems to be that the password entered in the members options login page is also checked against the admin password, which should not be done. It should only be checked if the admin-cookie is set, so that the admin (who logged on via the admin page) can also modify user settings. What is worse: if you enter a valid email address (of a list member) and the admin password you are the admin. So, any list member that happens to choose the same password as the admin has full access to the administrative interface. Somehow I think it would be better to also have an admin username and not just an admin password. Or, for each member an admin flag can be set. The admin has to be a member and can login with email and password as anybody else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Heiko Scheit | http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/cb Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Kernphysik | Saupfercheckweg 1 | heiko.scheit(a)mpi-hd.mpg.de 69117 Heidelberg | TEL ++49 6221 516 529 GERMANY | FAX ++49 6221 516 602

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Exporting memberlist
by J C Lawrence 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:18:33 +0100 Nick vd Kloor <@ FOR-Nation" <nick.vdkloor(a)for-nation.com>> wrote: > Hi all, does anyone know if there's a possibility to export your > memberlist in a file or for example excelsheet? ~/bin/list_members. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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WORKING!!!! changing PIDFILE = os.path.join(QUEUE_DIR, 'master-qru nner.pid')
by javier 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

I had to change perms of /DATA when i shared this folder -rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 629 Feb 24 11:14 pending.pck -rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 41 Feb 24 11:14 adm.pw and now moderated lists works fine!!! Today is a beautifull day!!! :-D Thank you very much, Robby (Thank you pilar) OK! i did it! this is my new files and folders : bash-2.03# ls -la total 60 drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 512 Feb 24 11:22 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root other 512 Feb 19 13:49 .. drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 1536 Feb 24 12:04 Mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 26 Jul 3 2003 archives -> /dirarcon/mailman/archives drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 20 09:24 bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 cgi-bin -rw-r----- 1 root mailman 4133 Oct 22 10:42 config.pck drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:25 cron lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 22 Feb 24 11:22 data -> /dirarcon/mailman/data drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 icons lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 23 Jul 3 2003 lists -> /dirarcon/mailman/lists drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Feb 24 12:30 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 1 08:26 logs drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 mail -rw-r----- 1 root mailman 5 Feb 24 11:12 master-qrunner.pid drwxrwsr-x 24 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:27 messages drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 2560 Feb 23 15:37 olddata drwxrwsr-x 6 root mailman 512 Jul 1 2003 pythonlib drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 512 Feb 24 12:05 qfiles drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:42 scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 1 2003 spam drwxrwsr-x 26 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:27 templates drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 tests and this is my changed mm_cfg.py from Defaults import * ################################################## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'es' MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'comunicaciones' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'cdxweb.cedex.es' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'cdxweb.cedex.es' PIDFILE = os.path.join(QUEUE_DIR, 'master-qrunner.pid') "mm_cfg.py" 51 lines, 1858 characters so master-qrunner.pid is saved now into /qfiles... maimanctl started fine, but i have same problem!!! moderated members of list send a message to the list and nothing happen!! no "waiting for approval" message to moderated-member or to me (moderator) :'( i hope you tell me more solutions, please... thanks for your help!! -- Javier Romero Casado tel.913357274 Dep. Comunicaciones CEDEX

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Exporting memberlist
by Nick vd Kloor ＠ FOR-Nation 25 Feb '04

25 Feb '04

Hi all, does anyone know if there's a possibility to export your memberlist in a file or for example excelsheet? Or is there a way to display all your members on one page? Thanx in advance, Nick FOR-Nation.com

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mailman national support
by Istvan Kollar 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Gentlemen, I am very happy to use mailman. Especially to see that lately the Hungarian support was introduced. I have switched to Hungarian for the sake of some list members. However, with this, I have two problems. In Hungarian, we have two forms to address the other one. The youth and the familiy members say "te" (thou) to each other, with related forms in the sentences, while unknown people say Ön (you) to each other. The former form is rather unpolite when addressing an unknown, not young person. The Hungarian sentences are currently all in the first form. I have had bad moments explaining to list members why this is so... I would be happy to contribute in formulating each expression in the other way. We could even have two selectable Hungarian options: Hungarian (Te) Hungarian (Ön) Moreover, the present Hungarian sentences are partly wrong, or unfinished. A series of corrections are necessary. Is there anybody who maintains tese texts? Best regards István ------------------------ István Kollár, professor of EE Department of Measurement and Information Systems Budapest University of Technology and Economics Postal box address: Budapest, Hungary, H-1521, P.O.Box 91. Address for Fedex, DHL, UPS, EMS, etc. (no P.O.B): see office address Office: Budapest, XI. Magyar tudósok körútja 2. Bldg. I, wing E, level IV, Room E440, Hungary, H-1117 (secr.: wing E, Room E444) Phone: +36 1 463-1774 (also voice mail), secr. +36 1 463-2057 Fax: +36 1 463-4112 Email: kollar(a)mit.bme.hu, URL: http://www.mit.bme.hu/~kollar/

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changing DFILE = os.path.join(QUEUE_DIR, 'master-qrunner.pid')
by javier 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

OK! i did it! this is my new files and folders : bash-2.03# ls -la total 60 drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 512 Feb 24 11:22 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root other 512 Feb 19 13:49 .. drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 1536 Feb 24 12:04 Mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 26 Jul 3 2003 archives -> /dirarcon/mailman/archives drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Feb 20 09:24 bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 cgi-bin -rw-r----- 1 root mailman 4133 Oct 22 10:42 config.pck drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:25 cron lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 22 Feb 24 11:22 data -> /dirarcon/mailman/data drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 icons lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 23 Jul 3 2003 lists -> /dirarcon/mailman/lists drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Feb 24 12:30 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 1 08:26 logs drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 mail -rw-r----- 1 root mailman 5 Feb 24 11:12 master-qrunner.pid drwxrwsr-x 24 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:27 messages drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 2560 Feb 23 15:37 olddata drwxrwsr-x 6 root mailman 512 Jul 1 2003 pythonlib drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 512 Feb 24 12:05 qfiles drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:42 scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 1 2003 spam drwxrwsr-x 26 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:27 templates drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 tests and this is my changed mm_cfg.py from Defaults import * ################################################## # Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'es' MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'comunicaciones' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'cdxweb.cedex.es' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'cdxweb.cedex.es' PIDFILE = os.path.join(QUEUE_DIR, 'master-qrunner.pid') "mm_cfg.py" 51 lines, 1858 characters so master-qrunner.pid is saved now into /qfiles... maimanctl started fine, but i have same problem!!! moderated members of list send a message to the list and nothing happen!! no "waiting for approval" message to moderated-member or to me (moderator) :'( i hope you tell me more solutions, please... thanks for your help!! -- Javier Romero Casado tel.913357274 Dep. Comunicaciones CEDEX

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Messages to hotmail are dropped
by nick.vdkloor＠for-nation.com 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Dear Mailman developers, our company is using Mailman 2.1.4. Our database has got a total of 2000 members. About 60% of them are hotmailaddresses. After sending our last mail I noticed that almost none of the hotmailusers received a mailing. I noticed that because I created a couple of hotmail test account. When I tried to send a mailing with our testmailinglist which consist of only 2 hotmailaddresses (the same that are in our main mailinglist) they do receive the mailing. I assume that the Hotmail spooler discards mails when they are sent in large groups, I don't know the exact numbers. Is there a way to bypass it? Cause our mailings are not spam, every member did subscribe to our list. Is there maybe a setting to configure which can set a delay between sending a couple of mails? I hope you guys can help me out on this one. Thanx in advance, Nick van der Kloor FOR-Mail Foundation of Recreation

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[Fwd: [Fwd: [Mailman-Users] problems with moderated list]]
by javier 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Could somebody write me where messages-waiting-to-moderation are stored? i have problem with moderation, messages are lost... this is my config, and i think i have to share more directories than /list and / archives..... _________________________________________________ Hi people! The two machines has the same DNSname, but diferent IP number. two mailmans are working good... you can create list from two machines... i put special attention in user and groups, and i had to change the mailman uid&gid to be the same number in 3 machines (mailman1,mailman2,NFS store). Ok, i installed two mailman first, i linked (ln -s) /archives & /lists to two NFS directories and checkperms -f to solve permision problems. This is a mailman machine (Sunfire v120, solaris 8): bash-2.03$ cd /usr/local/mailman/ bash-2.03$ ls -la total 54 drwxrwsr-x 18 mailman mailman 512 Oct 29 11:06 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root other 512 Sep 19 12:00 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 26 Jul 3 2003 archives -> /dirarcon/mailman/archives drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 1024 Oct 7 12:23 bin drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 cgi-bin -rw-r----- 1 root mailman 4133 Oct 22 10:42 config.pck drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:25 cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 2048 Nov 9 08:38 data drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 icons lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 23 Jul 3 2003 lists -> /dirarcon/mailman/lists drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jan 22 09:45 locks drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 1 08:26 logs drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 mail drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 1536 Nov 3 14:20 Mailman drwxrwsr-x 24 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:27 messages drwxrwsr-x 6 root mailman 512 Jul 1 2003 pythonlib drwxrwsr-x 11 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:34 qfiles drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:42 scripts drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 512 Jul 1 2003 spam drwxrwsr-x 26 root mailman 512 Oct 7 11:27 templates drwxrwsr-x 4 root mailman 512 Oct 7 12:23 tests Now is fully working good, if you create a new list two machines can view them, and all is working ok since 3 months. Before this, sometimes lists got locked, but Richard gave me the fix: Richard's solution------------------------------------------------------ >From a quick look at the code, I think this may happen if a message has an invalid Content-type: header of the form: Content-type: text/foo; charset= That is, it has a charset parameter but no actual value has been assigned to it. But I could be wrong. As a quick fix you could try changing line 280 of $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py from: if charset is None or charset == 'us-ascii': to: if charset is None or charset == '' or charset == 'us-ascii': If you try this hack let me know whether it works or not. I am not sure if this is the best long term fix but if it appears to work I will look at the problem a bit further. Do not forget to backup the Scrubber.py before changing it in case you have to revert to the original. Regards Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------------- i hope you enjoy this installation, it works, and if a mailman machine crash you have other machine to continue working with mailmans Regards and Thank you for your help! -- Javier Romero Casado tel.913357274 Dep. Comunicaciones CEDEX ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: javier.romero(a)cedex.es Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/javier.romero%40cedex.… -- Javier Romero Casado tel.913357274 Dep. Comunicaciones CEDEX ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: javier.romero(a)cedex.es Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/javier.romero%40cedex.… -- Javier Romero Casado tel.913357274 Dep. Comunicaciones CEDEX

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Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4
by jd 22 Feb '04

22 Feb '04

Since we have upgraded to Mailman version 2.1.4, I'm getting this error message when trying to use the web interface to any of our lists: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.4 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 68, in run_main immediate=1) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 52, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 49, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 67, in __get_f 1) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.3/codecs.py", line 566, in open file = __builtin__.open(filename, mode, buffering) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.3.3 (#1, Feb 13 2004, 15:23:55) [GCC 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]] sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python sys.prefix /usr/local sys.exec_prefix /usr/local sys.path /usr/local sys.platform freebsd4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Environment variables: Variable Value SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2510 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.27 Server at master-new.3dresearch.com Port 80 REQUEST_METHOD GET PATH_INFO /andrologyforum SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive SERVER_NAME master-new.3dresearch.com REMOTE_ADDR 209.195.177.46 PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/www/data/andrologyforum SERVER_PORT 80 SERVER_ADDR 66.167.251.12 DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/www/data PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin SERVER_ADMIN you(a)your.address HTTP_HOST lists.3dresearch.com REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/andrologyforum HTTP_ACCEPT */* GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 REMOTE_PORT 1455 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate UNIQUE_ID QDGTeX8AAAEAABSolSI I have run check_perms -f and it says "No problems found" - I'd appreciate your advice... jd

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] list bug
by Ron Jarrell 22 Feb '04

22 Feb '04

At 04:42 PM 2/12/2004, Ron Jarrell wrote: >I just hit this on one of my lists, when someone tried to subscribe: > > >Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5a3 > > > > >We're sorry, we hit a bug! > >If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy >of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what >happened. Thanks! > > >Traceback: > > >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main > main() > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 96, in main > process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata, language) > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 176, in > process_form > mlist.AddMember(userdesc, remote) > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 856, in AddMember > self.HoldSubscription(email, name, password, digest, lang) > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 391, in > HoldSubscription > assert not self.__db.has_key(id) >AssertionError Well, I figured out that it was pissed off at an old pending subscription... The moderator hadn't ever done anything about it.. (which has made me realize that the nightly reminder job is running quite nicely and silently not doing a blessed thing). I discarded the months-old pending subscription, and suddenly that list subscribes just fine. I'm guessing the old pending entry was in an old format? Also, in the current cvs, scripts/driver doesn't import mm_cfg, so doesn't get the definition of True, which it then proceeds to use.

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